I said a million times: circular. You really are a profound idiot aren't you.Logik wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:20 pmOxymorons are not about imagination, Age.
Oxymorons are about contradictory use of language.
Circles are 2-dimensional.
3-dimensional "circles" are called spheres.
4-dimensional "circles" are called n-Spheres.
And let-me tell you, a 4-dimensional n-Sphere looks NOTHING like a circle.
But there is a really easy way to go about this. Is this what you have imagined: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFW769hqa1U ?
Dilemma of beginning of time
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OK. And I am pointing out for the millionth time that the word 'circular' doesn't mean what you think it means.
Circular shapes are 2-dimensional.
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/circular
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/sphericaladjective. Having the form of a circle.
adjective. Shaped like a sphere
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At what age did you learn English?Logik wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:09 pmOK. And I am pointing out for the millionth time that the word 'circular' doesn't mean what you think it means.
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/circularhttps://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/sphericaladjective. Having the form of a circle.adjective. Shaped like a sphere
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Which sensory organ do you use for this perception?
You state that you perceive time when you don't think, so it can't be thought that informs you about time passing - thus time would have to be "encoded" in seeing, hearing, smelling, tasting or the sense of touch, right? Which one?
Does a thought have a beginning and an end?
Or are you maybe talking about a chain of thoughts? One of them stating "this is the start" and another one "this is the end"?
If one thought has no duration, can a chain of thought have duration?
I doubt that very much... all I can find is this experience which also contains thoughts stating "Its one o'clock!" - but this doesn't mean that I can find "time" or "duration" anywhere else but as an idea that arises via thought.
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Dinosaur, the stars and moon then were real relative to the time that is conditioned upon yours and human conditions, the evidences of the bones and inferences therefrom.bahman wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:44 pmSo dinosaur were not real?Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:45 amNo.
No humans = no "things" and no "motion" which are supposedly human realizations.
To be realistic we have to start with the real, i.e. whence humans cognize reality.
Note Meno's 'how can you know something when you do not know what it is in the first place'
The most efficient is to start from "Know Thyself" and from what the self knows.
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I am amazed how we do experience time. It seems that there is no sensory organ for it. I have a thread on this topic in here.
I said we experience time and not perceive it. I don't think if time is codded in any of our senses since I experience it well when I focus only on time.
Yes, of course.
No. I think that the beginning of a thought and end of it cannot coincide. This seems contradictory to me.
No, it is not like that as it is illustrated in the previous comment.
No.
Strange. Perhaps you can also experience time with practice.
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Or you might find that you really cannot experience time and that this practice is rather conditioning leading to the imagination that this is possible...
What is it like to experience time for you? How does the experience express itself? How does time feel like?
I am curious as I cant see how this would be possible...
I will also have a look at your other topic - thanks.
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It feels like gravity when skydiving.
I can see in all directions, but I am only going one way.
Conceptual experiences are still valid experiences. Do you not sense that which you conceptualise?
Which one of your senses experiences gravity?
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Does it? Wow! Seems like I am missing out on quite a thrilling ride
No. I conceptualise what I sense.
And this is the juicy bit: The concept has really nothing in common with the direct experience.
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So you really cannot experience gravity thus leading to the imagination that this is possible?
How have you decided to draw this line? You aren't experiencing gravity when skydiving?
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Not being able to experience gravity doesn't lead to the imagination - its much rather conditioning, acquired belief, the way we like to think (based on social norms and generally accepted belief).
You might think and believe you can experience certain things - "apple" is maybe an easier example than "gravity". How do experience "apple"?