The Inevitable Nature of Looping

[Eodnhoj7]

There are two books I have read some months ago, by an author of the name Hofstadter, called: "Godel, Escher and Bach" and "I am a strange loop" which deals with...well... the problem that everything is reduced to loops.




This issue of looping is not just limited to Hofstadter alone, as it stems not just through the paradoxes of language (which he and other philosophers have observed) but various civilizations and culture which give foundation to language. This directive capacity of culture forming language and language forming culture follows this same form and function looping-cycle-alternation where cultures and their intellectual foundations reflect:


1. Pythagorean Monad / Hindu Bindhu.
2. Sun and/or moon Worship in Various Cultures, observed with the Egyptian Aten.
3. Presocratic and Socratic emphasis on the Divinity of the circle.
4. Stonehenge
5. Taoism
6. Muslim Dome of the Rock
7. Circle dance of many cultures, specifically Jewish culture and 3rd world tribes.
8. Philosophers such as Hall, or the Occult book the Kybalion.
9. The 24 philosophers definition of God, with one as sphere.
10. Marcus Aruellius meditations.
11. Platonism
12. Book of Ezekiel Wheels within Wheels
13. The golden rule / "you reap as you sow".
14. Reincarnation
15. Moderation as cycling of extremes.
16. Nichmachean ethics.
17. Ecclesiastes "For everything their is a season".
18. Moral reciprocation (to give x is to receive x)
19. Halo's of Christian Saints.
20. Buddhist symbol for Nirvanna

This is further reflected in natural and artificial phenomena.

1. Orbit of planets and stars.
2. Atoms
3. Circulatory, Respiratory and Nervous system.
4. Alternating current.
5. Seasons and weather patterns of nature.
6. Migratory patterns of birds.
7. Hunting/foraging patterns of wolves, deer, Turkey, etc.
8. Ocean currents
9. Reproduction as cycling of genetic material.
10. Movement of water to clouds to rain.
11. Alternation of emotions.
12. Personal habits
13. Standard conversations.
14. Wheels
15. Flying Saucers
16. Various dance and martial art moves.
17. Cycling action of semi automatic weapons.
18. Ball/puck/marbles
19. Various sports.
20. Mirror Effect in psychology.
21. Eyes, breasts, buttocks, various facets of human body, specifically female. Joint movement.
22. Economic exchange in cultures and between cultures.
23. Alternation of common traits amidst various people (personalities, physical traits)
24. Evolution.
25. Genome.
26. Political Spin.
27. Revolver, rolling, bullet spin.
28. Centrifuge.
29. Gyroscope.
30. Movements of elements.
31. Tornado, whirlwind, whirlpool.
32. Forms of liquids, solids, and gases.
33. Bipolar disorder.
34. Multiple personality disorder.
35. Various rolls for meals or desert.
36. Etc.

X. ALL triads, dualisms, and monads.

To cycle back to the premises:

1. Isomorphism in math and logic.
2. Godel's incompleteness theorems
3. ALL definitons in dictionary cycling back to previous defintion.
4. Addition and multiplication.
5. Wittgenstein observation of sets.
6. Subject-predicate looping in paragraphs.
7. Noun verb alternation in paragraphs.
8. binary code
9. Word through word as sentence, sentence through sentence as paragraph, paragraph through paragraph as page, page as page through book, book through book as volume with all cycling back to words.
10. ALL numbers as cycling of 1, 2 and or 3.
11. ALL languages looping through each other.
12. Set through set, definition through definition, concept through concept, etc.
13. Etc.


The problem of any projective linear space follows the same..."form" considering a line projecting away from a point is directed towards a point. In a separate respect a point is directed towards a point through a line.

Even the line as an extradimensional structure, exists through a looping effect as a localization of it.

[Reflex]

Holophany: The Loop of Creation (Free PDF download)

[Eodnhoj7]

Holophany: The Loop of Creation (Free PDF download)

Thanks, will look into, try Hofstadter when you have the time ("Godel, Escher, Bach" specifically as "I am a Strange Loop" is more of personal account of the author) it is worth the read and is a solid philosophical book relative to the "best seller list" (which I am skeptical of).


It appears Looping is it is own form of Dogma so, when I read the book I will look into the author's argument considering the paradox of Dogma and No-Dogma still necessitates a Dogma. Creation may be its own dogma under these terms, but on the synthetic nature of this dualism.

[Reflex]

Holophany: The Loop of Creation (Free PDF download)

Thanks, will look into, try Hofstadter when you have the time ("Godel, Escher, Bach" specifically as "I am a Strange Loop" is more of personal account of the author) it is worth the read and is a solid philosophical book relative to the "best seller list" (which I am skeptical of).


It appears Looping is it is own form of Dogma so, when I read the book I will look into the author's argument considering the paradox of Dogma and No-Dogma still necessitates a Dogma. Creation may be its own dogma under these terms, but on the synthetic nature of this dualism.

I have the former, will look into the latter. Loops may be paradoxical, but I think they are also fundamental.

[Impenitent]

inevitable? nope...

Immelmann loops are the way to go...

-Imp

[Eodnhoj7]

inevitable? nope...

Immelmann loops are the way to go...

-Imp

1/2 loops set the foundation for frequencies as loops in themselves.

[Erk]

And then of course, there's the spiral.

[Age]

The reason WHY every thing loops is because no matter which way you go or want to look every thing always comes back to the NOW.

[Eodnhoj7]

And then of course, there's the spiral.

Still a form of circularity as the out and in points move in a circular pattern relative to time. If the movements are viewed in one moment, from a separate time zone, they are strictly circles in circles.

[Eodnhoj7]

The reason WHY every thing loops is because no matter which way you go or want to look every thing always comes back to the NOW.

True, explain further...

[Age]

The reason WHY every thing loops is because no matter which way you go or want to look every thing always comes back to the NOW.

True, explain further...

In very quick simple (will NOT yet be understood) terms; the Universe is infinite/eternal, but there is actually NO actual space nor time (many, many thousands of words to explain fully and be understood fully) but in essence there is only a NOW, which is in a state of evolutionary constant-change, with each interaction of every single particle of matter Creating NOW. So, no matter what is being discussed or what is attempted to be looked at Everything will always come back to the NOW. Absolutely EVERY thing that "has" conceivably happened IS defined or determined by what IS, NOW. And, what "will" happen IS defined or determined by what IS actually happening NOW.

There is so much reordering of words on and in other subjects, and understanding them, BEFORE this subject could even begin to be better understood. But that is a start for NOW anyway.

[Eodnhoj7]

The reason WHY every thing loops is because no matter which way you go or want to look every thing always comes back to the NOW.

True, explain further...

In very quick simple (will NOT yet be understood) terms; the Universe is infinite/eternal, but there is actually NO actual space nor time (many, many thousands of words to explain fully and be understood fully) but in essence there is only a NOW, which is in a state of evolutionary constant-change, with each interaction of every single particle of matter Creating NOW. So, no matter what is being discussed or what is attempted to be looked at Everything will always come back to the NOW. Absolutely EVERY thing that "has" conceivably happened IS defined or determined by what IS, NOW. And, what "will" happen IS defined or determined by what IS actually happening NOW.

There is so much reordering of words on and in other subjects, and understanding them, BEFORE this subject could even begin to be better understood. But that is a start for NOW anyway.

So now is "constant change". The next question: "Constant Change?"

[surreptitious57]

Special Relativity says there are many simultaneous NOWS not just one NOW and this depends on an objects speed
Time goes slower the closer that an object gets to light speed and for anything that actually travels at light speed
such as photons for example the concept of NOW is entirely meaningless because for them time stops completely

[surreptitious57]

the Universe is infinite / eternal but there is actually NO actual space nor time ( many many
thousands of words to explain fully and be understood fully ) but in essence there is only a NOW

Can you give a brief but detailed explanation as to why you think there is no actual space or time

[Age]

True, explain further...

In very quick simple (will NOT yet be understood) terms; the Universe is infinite/eternal, but there is actually NO actual space nor time (many, many thousands of words to explain fully and be understood fully) but in essence there is only a NOW, which is in a state of evolutionary constant-change, with each interaction of every single particle of matter Creating NOW. So, no matter what is being discussed or what is attempted to be looked at Everything will always come back to the NOW. Absolutely EVERY thing that "has" conceivably happened IS defined or determined by what IS, NOW. And, what "will" happen IS defined or determined by what IS actually happening NOW.

There is so much reordering of words on and in other subjects, and understanding them, BEFORE this subject could even begin to be better understood. But that is a start for NOW anyway.

So now is "constant change". The next question: "Constant Change?"

The two words; "Constant Change?" IS NOT a question.

For EVERY problem there is a solution.

EVERY 'problem' is just a question, posed for an answer.

If you WANT to KNOW the answer to a question, then you just have to put the words into a question, or in other words, you just have to rearrange words so that they make up a question.

Now, if you WANT me or another to answer a question, and/or provide the solution, then you just need to ask the question, or pose the problem, properly.

Until then I have no idea what your "next question", was/is.