I'm an absolutist, not a liar. Anything less than 100.00% is for me incomplete.TimeSeeker wrote: ↑Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:33 pmYou have just told a lie!commonsense wrote: ↑Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:21 pm This may be unusual, but you have convinced me, RG1, that my original position was wrong. This is not mere concession, but rather conversion.
To claim my perceptions are real is, indeed, without any rational basis. There is only non-rational basis to invoke: faith, truly blind faith.
If I prefer faith over reason, by blind belief I can depend on my perceptions. This kind of belief, the kind that comes with faith, has no rational basis.
I would also point out a flaw in my logic. I proposed that I can rely on my perceptions because there is nothing else to rely upon. However, even if there were nothing else to be relied upon, that does not mean that perceptions can be.
Furthermore, since the OP referenced trust, I find it difficult to count my perceptions as real. If I were standing before a firing squad, I would not trust that all the bullets would miss me. If there is a possibility, no matter how slight the probability, that my perceptions might betray me, I might have faith, but not trust, that my perceptions accurately represent reality.
RG1, every post you’ve submitted in this thread is true to reason. Anyone who says otherwise is blind.
Do you trust your perception that if you stab your self with a knife in the heart you will die?
You said you have faith but not trust, so let’s gamble!
What probability would you assign to your perception being wrong? What is the likelyhoks of you surviving a knife to the heart?
1 in 1000?
1 in 1000000000?
1 in 100000000000000?
I will give you 1000000000000000 USD dollars AFTER you let me stab you in the heart!
No. Name your price to reflect your uncertainty...
Where does the reward outweigh the risk of perceptual error?
I trust that after I perceive that you have plunged a knife into my heart, I will perceive that I will not survive. Unfortunately, that will be followed by the perception that I am bleeding and the perception that I am gradually losing consciousness. Whether the perceptions are fact or not makes no difference. Either I will die or I will perceive that I die.
I may be living in a world of my imagination or I may be living in a world of fact. In either instance, there are rules, consistent with fact or with perception. If fact and perception are congruous, it doesn't matter how I gamble. If there's incongruity, I'd be inclined not to trust perceptions.
I enjoy watching Penn & Teller. There are always incongruities between perception and fact when they perform. Perception can't be trusted here.