Peace and Happiness are "Dirty" Words.

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Eodnhoj7
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Peace and Happiness are "Dirty" Words.

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It appears to me that the pursuit of Peace and Happiness causes an absence of Peace and Happiness as the pursuit of what is Potential causes a division of what is actual.

A pursuit of what is by nature subjective causes a division of what is objective, with objectivity being a form of group subjectivity.

With the division of the group subjectivity, as what is objectivity, causes an division of what is subjective as group subjectivity (objectivity) provides the boundaries through which the subjective exists.

The subjective pitted against the objective requires a subjective "sacrifice of the self through the self" in which the individual must divide into parts himself/herself in order gain the necessary relations which allow the individual to move through time and space. He who is hungry must in terms eat himself in order to satisify any intellectual, physical or emotional desire in the face of adversity.

A spiritual of the "ourboros" takes hold in which the individual must loop through himself to maintain himself in the face of percieved chaos, where the ability to "loop" and intertwine oneself through the environment is not a viable option.

The individual is forced to dismember oneself, through an act of intellectual hanging and a piercing of the heart under the linear spear of progressive change, much in the same manner the anthropormized god of Madness, Fury and Wisdom, Oden or Wotan, committed in the pursuit of "opening" himself to the multiplicity of existence. This hanging upon the universal tree of Yggdrasil, or the Tree of Knowledge in Western Judaic Tradition, causes a form of false knowledge through suicide to occur in the respect that seperation of the self causes an appearance of Knowledge to occur under the term "relation".

Relativism in these respects results in a "Satanic" spirituality in which constant division of the self is required in the face of a highly individualistic subjective culture. A deification of oneself and their faculties of reasoning results due to a process of constant individuation in which the individual alone is falsely responsible for the totatily of truth rather than as a mediator or "steward" of it.

This deification, or seeking equality to Godhood, causes a false form of spirituality in the respect that any pursuit of equality implies a division with this division being "actualized" in the respect is it spoken and believed. A problem occurs when an problem is observed as a problem, and these problems are merely observations of seperation. To seek equality is to imply a seperation, but the nature of equality requires a full knowing of what these percievable seperate natures entail.

In simpler terms if man seeks equality with God, a Knowing of God must first occur in the respect a boundary must be given. This boundary, or measurement, however requires a measurement of the measurement, ad-infinitum where a process of continual division occurs under the manifestation of categories that are oftentimes subjective evident. To create God-hood would require a knowing of what God-hood entails, but this knowing would require a continual act of belief in oneself which further causes the very problem of relativism to occur.

The pursuit of divinity, under the terms "peace" and "happiness", becomes a dirty process of synthesis where continual separation into parts lays waste to what is simple and buries it under an idol of "complexity" as a re measurement is believed necessary to give order to the subjective universe that paradoxically is not objectively agreed upon at the group level except under the terms "individuation".
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We must not pursue peace and happiness. We must pursue our duties though. Pursuing our duties, peace and happiness will come. So then, peace and happiness are not dirty words but pursuing them is the dirt, like trying to catch a butterfly, and we know that is wrong. So happiness and peace must not be pursued, duties must be pursued. Thereby, "Work is worship." Work must remain mistake free, vice free and wickedness free. So divinity or God or Lord is not wrong. I say this because often times we feel that God is against us when it is we ourselves, our own biggest enemies. Listening to our conscience helps us find peace and happiness because conscience guides in the right direction and right happening means peace and happiness. But do we ever listen? NO!!!!!!!!!!
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Beauty wrote: Fri May 04, 2018 4:42 am We must not pursue peace and happiness. We must pursue our duties though. Pursuing our duties, peace and happiness will come. So then, peace and happiness are not dirty words but pursuing them is the dirt, like trying to catch a butterfly, and we know that is wrong. So happiness and peace must not be pursued, duties must be pursued. Thereby, "Work is worship." Work must remain mistake free, vice free and wickedness free. So divinity or God or Lord is not wrong. I say this because often times we feel that God is against us when it is we ourselves, our own biggest enemies. Listening to our conscience helps us find peace and happiness because conscience guides in the right direction and right happening means peace and happiness. But do we ever listen? NO!!!!!!!!!!
The pursuit of divinity, under the terms "peace" and "happiness", becomes a dirty process of synthesis where continual separation into parts lays waste to what is simple and buries it under an idol of "complexity" as a re measurement is believed necessary to give order to the subjective universe that paradoxically is not objectively agreed upon at the group level except under the terms "individuation".
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If I knew what you are saying, I would respond. Do you know what you are saying? If you do, can you write it in simple words. Simple I understand, complex I don't.
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Beauty wrote: Sat May 05, 2018 3:40 am If I knew what you are saying, I would respond. Do you know what you are saying? If you do, can you write it in simple words. Simple I understand, complex I don't.
Peace and Happiness are empty words considering not only do they give little definition but are overused. In a separate respect they have taken on a highly subjective and individualistic only approach where the individual is forced to delve deeper into their own self causing a process of fracturing where the ends and means is the self.

All needs, rather than being fulfilled dually through the role of a community, are left to the individual and in these respects a process of internal division takes place where the individual is forced to take multiple life roles without really mastering any of them. This pursuit of Peace and Happiness has become a mere marketing product that mediates the further consumption of goods by developing a superficial knowledge of one's appetites.

This "self through the self" only approach mirrors a philosophy of self-indulgence that pits people against eachother. One, metaphorically speaking, is left sacrificing himself/herself to himself/herself as a means to get by in the various degrees of life.

The word's Happiness and Peace in turn mediate a common definition of individualism which only prohibits people from truly reflect upon their meaning without being steered by a group or majority. This majority definition causes an internal division within the same majority ironically....I will end it here.
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You are right! That's what the society is today and also the fabric of society. We are practically on our own. Everyone has become a stranger to themselves in the show for this or that. Not very many people are out there who have a good understanding of what they really want and who they really are. Peace and happiness are desired by all, but the society and its fabric is so spoiled that peace and happiness are difficult to find.
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Beauty wrote: Sun May 06, 2018 5:10 pm You are right! That's what the society is today and also the fabric of society. We are practically on our own. Everyone has become a stranger to themselves in the show for this or that. Not very many people are out there who have a good understanding of what they really want and who they really are. Peace and happiness are desired by all, but the society and its fabric is so spoiled that peace and happiness are difficult to find.
Part of the above problem is premised in a culture whose values, means of living to be specific, are based upon a need for continual distraction through entertainment. This inhibits the ability for any sense of self-reflection that allows one's intellectual skills to expand, emotional empathy to grow, and the body to relax and heal.

The value placed upon entertainment is really a form of false transcendence against time itself, where the individual through a screen (glass "altar") attempts to achieve a universe of perspective and knowledge in order to "get away from" their current internal and external circumstances. This "extra-dimensional" projection, where we "live" (if that word can be used at all), through the experiences of other's and not our own.

The value system of "experience" further increases the problem, as experience is mislabeled as less of something in which a person "move's through" (considering we "move through" an experience) and more of something in which a person merely observes from the outside through a glass screen. Technology in these regards forces us deeper into ourselves, thus fracturing aspects of the individual and universal zeitgeist, as the medium literally acts as a barrier against the outside world in one respect while acting simultaneously acting as a barrier to encapsulate any experience we have (continually taking pictures/video so moment can be "held on to".).

The problem occurs in the respect that this technology causes a hyper materialistic vision to universalize where immorality, or at least a perception of it, is premised on what we can reduce to stone and metal. Immortality through technology is strictly a modern form of alchemy where the individual tries to reduce him/her self into a stone. The problem occurs that one becomes what they reflect upon, hence a lack of empathy and critical (but natural) social skills that are necessary to bind people to people. A person is further objectified in the respect that the relationship, existing through the tech median, is one strictly of a person relating to a piece of stone and metal....hence people metaphorically become the stone and metal they relate too and the problem multiplies.

The problem, if not crisis, of the modern age is one of "meaning" where the absence of structure causes inherent mental, physical, and emotional problems that act of festering wounds prohibiting people to grow and maintain a perpetual state of adolenscence to "sooth the pain". This problem of meaning extends to a problem of violence if one is to look at the root of "meaning" as "mean". This lack of balance, or structure, because of various bubbles and extremes in society causes an inherent degree of "continuous change through division" as one force attempts to overcome the other.

We see this in politics, in everyday work, social cliques (taken to extremes) and the division between the sexes that once held the familial structure together.

Progress, as a linear movement, is fundamentally an act of division resulting in various extremes which due to a percieved stress have to "synthesize" into false realities. Take for example a simple game of sports. Our progress in training, while enabling the athletes to gain fast results, causes various injuries they will have to deal with later in life. Just watch a baseball game and listen to the number of injuries people cannot play from, or even football for that manner. In turn medical technology "synthesizes" new solutions to a problem that was created artificially, so progress becomes self-defeating in one respect as a "new solution" is really a balance to a "new problem" (in this case the high rate of injury).

Progress is fundamentally "circular" in these regards. We can observe this again in a simple example of a line. The line extends from a 0d point, but the problem occurs in the respect it goes back to another 0d point. What seperates one 0d point from another since both are the same? The line only, but the beginning and end are fundamentally the same. So even logically speaking, progress is contradictory and glories itself for solutions to problems it created in the pursuit of solutions.
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