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I see what the original poster is saying. I agree with him.

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Terrapin Station wrote:
Dalek Prime wrote:
waechter418 wrote:Being fragmentations of the strong force of Consciousness, its weak forces remain secondary. :wink:
There is no strong or weak force to consciousness, ala physics.
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“Another view of Consciousness” has been criticised for being based on the Egyptian pantheon, but (nearly) all cosmologies would have served, as they present principal patterns of human consciousness.
The use of aphorisms and contradiction techniques common to Zen, should make it obvious that these texts are not intended for devotees of linear logics and traditional philosophical reference frames.
The occasional polemic assaults against customary social & moral bulwarks are to offend their defenders - but are of little consequences, since they will have disappeared by the time these texts reach their principal destination: the the founders of civilisations to come.
All civilisations do eventually disappear, usually through internal corruption sometimes under outside pressure, in rare instances through suicide. The western civilisation is not only decaying, but shows suicidal tendencies as well, considering the increasing ingenuity with which its Sapiens rapes and plunders the organism that bears and feeds him.
Latter aspect is probably going to determine the progression of its decline, as there will be billions of people running out of food and water and, since people do easily panic in critical situations, thus can be expected to use the enormous amounts of conventional & ABC weapons which Sapiens is spreading around the world.
It is hard to imagine how someone, who (since 1750) crowns himself with the Latin term “sapiens” (reasonable, wise) could have become such a nut; he apparently asks himself the same question, at least it would explain his late endeavours to digitise his mind - which shouldn’t be very difficult, considering the similarity of the R/P and the 0/1 process – but futile, as long as he runs on mostly outdated programs which are full of social, moral, religious, emotional etc. viruses, and thus in need of a thorough overhaul, a task he seems not be willing to undertake.
Nevertheless, the above texts (and others, published by waechter418 in wordpress) contain plenty of respective suggestions.
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The western civilization is not only decaying, but shows suicidal tendencies as well, considering the increasing ingenuity with which its Sapiens rapes and plunders the organism that bears and feeds him.
Latter aspect is probably going to determine the progression of its decline, as there will be billions of people running out of food and water and, since people do easily panic in critical situations, thus can be expected to use the enormous amounts of conventional & ABC weapons which Sapiens is spreading around the world.

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Bill Wiltrack wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:21 pm
The western civilization is not only decaying, but shows suicidal tendencies as well, considering the increasing ingenuity with which its Sapiens rapes and plunders the organism that bears and feeds him.
Latter aspect is probably going to determine the progression of its decline, as there will be billions of people running out of food and water and, since people do easily panic in critical situations, thus can be expected to use the enormous amounts of conventional & ABC weapons which Sapiens is spreading around the world.
...worth repeating.

....and to do something about (other than ruminating)
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Is there a fallacy that we can actually do something?...anything - in life?

I read a philosopher once that stated, that if we could actually do anything in our lives we would chose to live forever.

Wish I could do something. I too am right in the heart of this. Years ago I remember posting on this very site a number of threads sort-of foretelling the reasons we are, in America, facing our unavoidable, seamingly dire situation...


What are your thoughts on America? I realize you have a bit of unique perspective; being an American yet living in a distant territory.








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Hello fellow travellers,

Expecting the shocks from the above views having had time to fade - i recommend to check their updates in

waechter418.wordpress.com

Pura vida !

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Update 5.8.22

Ra-Hoor-Kuit is a phase or state of Consciousness where mind annihilates that which impedes its Selfrealisation.

As “god of war and vengeance” (LAL III-3) he exposes the self-deceptions, pretensions, avarice & cowardice of ego and attacks its ideologies, morals, myths, religions, collective & personal idiosyncrasies and whatever else suffocates the mind.

Hindus call this phase Kali yuga, the age of the demon Kali, who is pictured chopping away at the legs of the world of ego.
(the Kali phase is elaborated in the Mahabharata which calls the subsequent state “Satya Yuga” - the age of Truth)

Although dealing with wide-ranging constructs of the mind, Ra-Hoor-Kuit focuses primarily on its contemporary perspectives.

Evoking that which he is to eliminate, he is persona juridical as well as super-ego and short-cut of the Selfrealisation process.

for complete texts see - https://waechter418.wordpress.com/
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A democratic view, of consciousness:


The Earth as singularity from the real history (a trope), being a container of the infinity mainframe (the identity of concern of this infinity mainframe being the revelation, of gravitation to body glamour being gravitation of man to woman, as a robotic truth as well), can be a political associate, of the publication world's (world denoting the overall as no irony) bridge to the consciousness' metaphysics projection of data (Valenka's data) to the distance as invisible-mutual awareness ideology machine (mutual awareness here denoting the usual spirituality of left-wing sharing ethos).

Beyond this, there is the infinity mainframe's opponent as infinite relays of machines, one example of said infinite relays being the technology aristocracy's spread through only aristocracy the reminder of movie heroes and sociology inspiration tactics (left-wing inspiration speeches, relaxation manifestations etc), as a means to harm the metaphysics application of time slot ethos as tradition of Valenka's body in yellow around the technology publication world.

The technology publication world, and its singular knowledge, of the gravitation to Valenka body glamour dimension (a spontaneity at the back end of history overthrow, of the theology/Peek-A-Boo reality as context of fuck you for linking spirituality to ingenuity through time); can Valenka, of her body in yellow computation projection, use the yellow of the word computation, as an ally of visual word dimension's alliance with abstract body glamour philosophy matter, to exempt herself while using her spontaneity at the back end of history possession (also in the context, of the celebrity philosophy matter's morality of protecting users of gravitation of man to woman) from the abstract political philosophy's parody of reference from celebrity.

To close:
Valenka, of her ingenuity mainframe, is the embodiment of the vying for supremacy in the form of Yellow Car-Bon


For Valenka from Casino Royale, and Solange, and Vesper Lynd, and Le Chiffre
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waechter418 wrote: Sun May 08, 2022 6:53 pm Update 5.8.22

Ra-Hoor-Kuit is a phase or state of Consciousness where mind annihilates that which impedes its Selfrealisation.

As “god of war and vengeance” (LAL III-3) he exposes the self-deceptions, pretensions, avarice & cowardice of ego and attacks its ideologies, morals, myths, religions, collective & personal idiosyncrasies and whatever else suffocates the mind.

Hindus call this phase Kali yuga, the age of the demon Kali, who is pictured chopping away at the legs of the world of ego.
(the Kali phase is elaborated in the Mahabharata which calls the subsequent state “Satya Yuga” - the age of Truth)

Although dealing with wide-ranging constructs of the mind, Ra-Hoor-Kuit focuses primarily on its contemporary perspectives.

Evoking that which he is to eliminate, he is persona juridical as well as super-ego and short-cut of the Selfrealisation process.

for complete texts see - https://waechter418.wordpress.com/
Hi waechter418,

Could you summarise the main meaning of the initial post in maybe a few sentences, what you are describing, what it relates to. And then maybe after that, could you clarify each “phase” you outlined, as to how they relate to that initial explanation?

What I get from an initial reading is, you seem to be summarising the modes of self realisation over time within the Egyptian culture, and how it may relate to and differ from more Asian and western forms of “religion” or self realisation.

But there seems to be a kind of progression in this consciousness, as if the “collective consciousness” (for lack of a better term) is tending towards a progression of itself.

Also, the talk of reflection and projection. My interpretations of these terms are, reflection is awareness, or subject, projection is the contents of consciousness, or object. Would I be right in that assumption? Now what was meant by the statement “and since this cognition consists of a reflection & projection, the priest added “thus gods are made”?

It seems to me, many spiritual traditions consider the division of subject and object to be a movement away from god, Brahman etc. How is it that gods are made by reflection and projection (or subject and object in my terminology).

In the Vedic tradition, specifically Advaita, an initial step towards their nondual path is the discrimination of the “seer and the seen”, a.k.a. “DRG drsha Veveka”. One must first realise that they are not any object, i.e. not a projection, and thus are the reflective capacity of the mind. This is an intermediary step, but it seems, a necessary starting point. Therefore, a dualism is necessary to proceed towards nondual realisation.

Is there any similarity there maybe. I find your text interesting, and personally, I have a gut instinct that the Egyptian’s must have had a rich self realisation tradition, based on their symbolism of Horus, as well as Ra, the eye, and light. Both important symbols when it comes to self realisation.

Can you shed a little light in a less esoteric and more accessible manner?

Thanks.
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A consciousness exploration:

The body glamour to body glamour rivalry reality, of its technology extraction from symbolism of the reality universe being the physical matter of the reality universe (a right-wing politics network association, to the Peek-A-Boo technology of ideas such as movie stars and celebrities from metaphysics being a physics travel weapon, to the Thomas Heath-Tom Cruise association) is not the computation capacity (Obadiah Stane's reference, with Christina Everheart) of the physics collisions of the reality sociology distillation from the outer space universe (physics collisions referring to death by traffic, natural disasters, house appliances malfunction etc) comprising the exempt from daylight criticism of computer malfunction's percentages of malfunction being a mathematics as spirituality ploy against said right-wing network.

In addition:
The right-wing politics construction, from body glamour's philosophy identity, being an ambition by daylight to use the visual word ideology (of the visual word construction's internet alliance), free of charge from the Thomas Heath-Tom Cruise-Ethan Hunt-Hayley Atwell algebra spirituality (a rival to Peek-A-Boo's and Mason Dertry's Terry Howletrax problem - the problem, ostensibly, meaning the absence of ambition by Terry being a physics as supernatural weapon through abstinence, due to Dertry's own ambition being a physics/computation separation via the visual word reality's philosophy split as creator of eternal non-resolution through sequence to block), is actually an ambition to use as only computation (due to the insects as metaphor machines inability to work) the equation of reality self = magic self.
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The supernatural nihilism, waiting to connect itself, to the supernatural's non-reliance (the back to front) and physics waiting for jobs (reality sociology jobs) to detach themselves from the theology celebrity: it is the juxtaposition of moral seeking style.

Animals (reality sociology animals): their moral foundation right, to know system imagination (system imagination being a time socialism term for imagination) is their further right to know.

Geography and daylight (daylight, which isn't the days of each day is to be a socialist to the next day); from their preoccupation, with the absence society's system imagination's creation program of project to program, over the Heaven's deceased are computers algebra physics society-Write It Again In Your own Words's reality sociology's oxygen algebra physics society partnership, they follow physics.

Nadia Bjorlin - can you Thomas Heath this text?
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Dimebag wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 12:46 pm
waechter418 wrote: Sun May 08, 2022 6:53 pm Update 5.8.22

Ra-Hoor-Kuit is a phase or state of Consciousness where mind annihilates that which impedes its Selfrealisation.

As “god of war and vengeance” (LAL III-3) he exposes the self-deceptions, pretensions, avarice & cowardice of ego and attacks its ideologies, morals, myths, religions, collective & personal idiosyncrasies and whatever else suffocates the mind.

Hindus call this phase Kali yuga, the age of the demon Kali, who is pictured chopping away at the legs of the world of ego.
(the Kali phase is elaborated in the Mahabharata which calls the subsequent state “Satya Yuga” - the age of Truth)

Although dealing with wide-ranging constructs of the mind, Ra-Hoor-Kuit focuses primarily on its contemporary perspectives.

Evoking that which he is to eliminate, he is persona juridical as well as super-ego and short-cut of the Selfrealisation process.

for complete texts see - https://waechter418.wordpress.com/
Hi waechter418,

Could you summarise the main meaning of the initial post in maybe a few sentences, what you are describing, what it relates to. And then maybe after that, could you clarify each “phase” you outlined, as to how they relate to that initial explanation?

What I get from an initial reading is, you seem to be summarising the modes of self realisation over time within the Egyptian culture, and how it may relate to and differ from more Asian and western forms of “religion” or self realisation.

But there seems to be a kind of progression in this consciousness, as if the “collective consciousness” (for lack of a better term) is tending towards a progression of itself.

Also, the talk of reflection and projection. My interpretations of these terms are, reflection is awareness, or subject, projection is the contents of consciousness, or object. Would I be right in that assumption? Now what was meant by the statement “and since this cognition consists of a reflection & projection, the priest added “thus gods are made”?

It seems to me, many spiritual traditions consider the division of subject and object to be a movement away from god, Brahman etc. How is it that gods are made by reflection and projection (or subject and object in my terminology).

In the Vedic tradition, specifically Advaita, an initial step towards their nondual path is the discrimination of the “seer and the seen”, a.k.a. “DRG drsha Veveka”. One must first realise that they are not any object, i.e. not a projection, and thus are the reflective capacity of the mind. This is an intermediary step, but it seems, a necessary starting point. Therefore, a dualism is necessary to proceed towards nondual realisation.

Is there any similarity there maybe. I find your text interesting, and personally, I have a gut instinct that the Egyptian’s must have had a rich self realisation tradition, based on their symbolism of Horus, as well as Ra, the eye, and light. Both important symbols when it comes to self realisation.

Can you shed a little light in a less esoteric and more accessible manner?

Thanks.
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