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Yes moving things die.nonmoving things are in eternity.what d u reckon.
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Plus.
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Plus wot vegy .
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jackles wrote:Yes moving things die.nonmoving things are in eternity.what d u reckon.
I would agree with that - but add the non moving thing would have to be infinite to be eternal
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Yeah a non moving thing is automaticaly eternal. The nonmoving thing is you. There is only one you nonmoving thing. You dont have to measure c to be nonmoving though but it helps to visualise the idea of nonmovment in your imagination.
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What doesn't move?
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You as the observer.your inertial frame is both moving and not moving in the same moment. Example when driving along in your car you are moving in a relative sense with regs to the road. But regs the electric systems and light coming out of the head lamps you aint moving. Its the stationary you that is eternity. The moving you is your brain interpritation of the event.
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jackles wrote:You as the observer.your inertial frame is both moving and not moving in the same moment. Example when driving along in your car you are moving in a relative sense with regs to the road. But regs the electric systems and light coming out of the head lamps you aint moving. Its the stationary you that is eternity. The moving you is your brain interpritation of the event.
It actually means the situated observer cannot tell the difference. The law of inertia applies equally to bodies at rest and bodies moving a a constant velocity UNLESS a force is applied to them. We can always claim to be stationary within our own reference frame, but there is no preferred reference frame.
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Yep theres no prefered ref frame for 'c 's stationary ref frame.
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jackles wrote:Yep theres no prefered ref frame for 'c 's stationary ref frame.


You seem to be saying that from the point of view of a photon time does not pass. Therefore, C has a stationary reference frame.
In order that the laws of physics can apply to observers and non-observers alike, you introduce the idea of consciousness as a substitution for the non-observer. In other words, the photon does the observing because it is somehow conscious and we are part of this consciousness.

If C has its own reference frame and time is relative to all moving observers then we have a problem. Light is not an observer of anything so time can only be meaningfully applied to light via your method of some type of 'photon consciousness' doing the observing from a privileged point of view.
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Yes ginko and death the changer of life forms is the c ref frame.But death is life.so the moving observer and the statioary observer of c are life and death . But death the changer of things in evolutionary terms is life. Exact as jesus said it was. Death is the unmoving measurer of c and lives .where as the moving brain is created life and therefor dies. The un moving measurer is consciousness and lives. The moving brain dies.
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jackles wrote:Yes ginko and death the changer of life forms is the c ref frame.But death is life.so the moving observer and the statioary observer of c are life and death . But death the changer of things in evolutionary terms is life. Exact as jesus said it was. Death is the unmoving measurer of c and lives .where as the moving brain is created life and therefor dies. The un moving measurer is consciousness and lives. The moving brain dies.
To be honest Jackles I don't know what you are saying, but if you are happy then I am happy.
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Ha ha ginkgo. Maybe ill will explain it another way. Things in evolution are changed by the survival of the fittest . This of course means the death of a form that looses in the struggle for life. So death is changing the on going forms of life. Death is the living life force of creation. But there is no real death for the loosing form only the lose of the temporary form. Death in evolutionary terms is god the creator of forms of life by evolution. In man this god which is death and life as in forms can measure c. When man measures c he sees himself stationary in his frame of ref regs c. This unmovingness is death which does not move but causes moving things to move and can change the form of a living moving thing. So death is the creator and mover.
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