Something that can be created can also be destroyed

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Re: Something that can be created can also be destroyed

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Age wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:12 am
bahman wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:09 pm
Age wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:13 pm

Have you NOTICED that an amount of your so-called "arguments" are based on YOUR ASSUMPTIONS?

And, you EVEN USE the WORDS, paraphrased, BECAUSE I ASSUME 'such and such', then I now HAVE TO show 'this or that'.
You have to strt the argument from something.
How about starting ANY and ALL arguments from what IS IRREFUTABLY True, Right, and/or Correct ONLY, INSTEAD off from what you just ASSUME might be true, right, or correct ONLY?

In other words WHY NOT just make that 'something', some 'thing', which is ACTUALLY IRREFUTABLY True, Right, and/or Correct ONLY?
If you have such an argument feel free to open a new thread and present it there.
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Re: Something that can be created can also be destroyed

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bahman wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:09 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:09 am
bahman wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:08 pm
No.
What are you saying "No" to here, EXACTLY?
To your third statement.
So, are you saying and claiming that creation causes destruction, and, destruction happens because of destruction, correct?
bahman wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:09 pm
Age wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:10 pm
bahman wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:08 pm
But you have to provie it.
What are you on about here?
What do you mean?
I MEAN, what are you saying and claiming that I HAVE PROVE there?
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bahman wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:10 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:12 am
bahman wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:09 pm
You have to strt the argument from something.
How about starting ANY and ALL arguments from what IS IRREFUTABLY True, Right, and/or Correct ONLY, INSTEAD off from what you just ASSUME might be true, right, or correct ONLY?

In other words WHY NOT just make that 'something', some 'thing', which is ACTUALLY IRREFUTABLY True, Right, and/or Correct ONLY?
If you have such an argument feel free to open a new thread and present it there.
Are you NOT ABLE TO just START an argument with the ACTUAL and IRREFUTABLE Truth?

Also, I was NOT CLAIMING ANY thing here, which an 'argument' was needed for.

But this would be EASILY RECOGNIZABLE, that is; IF one was LOOKING CLEARLY and OPENLY here.
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Re: Something that can be created can also be destroyed

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Age wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:35 pm
bahman wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:09 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:09 am
What are you saying "No" to here, EXACTLY?
To your third statement.
So, are you saying and claiming that creation causes destruction, and, destruction happens because of destruction, correct?
No, I am not saying that creation causes destruction. PLease read OP carefully.
Age wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:10 pm
bahman wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:09 pm
Age wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:10 pm

What are you on about here?
What do you mean?
I MEAN, what are you saying and claiming that I HAVE PROVE there?
No. I already proved it.
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Re: Something that can be created can also be destroyed

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Age wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:41 pm
bahman wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:10 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:12 am

How about starting ANY and ALL arguments from what IS IRREFUTABLY True, Right, and/or Correct ONLY, INSTEAD off from what you just ASSUME might be true, right, or correct ONLY?

In other words WHY NOT just make that 'something', some 'thing', which is ACTUALLY IRREFUTABLY True, Right, and/or Correct ONLY?
If you have such an argument feel free to open a new thread and present it there.
Are you NOT ABLE TO just START an argument with the ACTUAL and IRREFUTABLE Truth?

Also, I was NOT CLAIMING ANY thing here, which an 'argument' was needed for.

But this would be EASILY RECOGNIZABLE, that is; IF one was LOOKING CLEARLY and OPENLY here.
I cannot do that. Feel free to share one if you can in a separate thread.
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Re: Something that can be created can also be destroyed

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bahman wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 2:13 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:35 pm
bahman wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:09 pm
To your third statement.
So, are you saying and claiming that creation causes destruction, and, destruction happens because of destruction, correct?
No, I am not saying that creation causes destruction. PLease read OP carefully.
So, when you say:

B can happen because of A.

What does this mean if 'B' is destruction and 'A' is creation, and you are NOT saying 'A' causes 'B'?

If 'B' can happen BECAUSE OF 'A', then what does BECAUSE OF mean if NOT CAUSED?
bahman wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 2:13 pm
Age wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:10 pm
bahman wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:09 pm
What do you mean?
I MEAN, what are you saying and claiming that I HAVE PROVE there?
No. I already proved it.
LOL

It was YOU who SAID that it was ME who, supposedly, HAS TO PROVE some thing.

And, LOL, FURTHER, what do you think or BELIEVE you have ALREADY PROVED here?
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Re: Something that can be created can also be destroyed

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bahman wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 2:14 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:41 pm
bahman wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:10 pm
If you have such an argument feel free to open a new thread and present it there.
Are you NOT ABLE TO just START an argument with the ACTUAL and IRREFUTABLE Truth?

Also, I was NOT CLAIMING ANY thing here, which an 'argument' was needed for.

But this would be EASILY RECOGNIZABLE, that is; IF one was LOOKING CLEARLY and OPENLY here.
I cannot do that.
If you SAY and BELIEVE you are NOT ABLE TO do that, then okay.

bahman wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 2:14 pm Feel free to share one if you can in a separate thread.
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Re: Something that can be created can also be destroyed

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Age wrote: Sun Jul 03, 2022 1:21 am
bahman wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 2:13 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:35 pm

So, are you saying and claiming that creation causes destruction, and, destruction happens because of destruction, correct?
No, I am not saying that creation causes destruction. PLease read OP carefully.
So, when you say:

B can happen because of A.

What does this mean if 'B' is destruction and 'A' is creation, and you are NOT saying 'A' causes 'B'?

If 'B' can happen BECAUSE OF 'A', then what does BECAUSE OF mean if NOT CAUSED?
Yes, A does not cause B.
Age wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:10 pm
bahman wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 2:13 pm
Age wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:10 pm

I MEAN, what are you saying and claiming that I HAVE PROVE there?
No. I already proved it.
LOL

It was YOU who SAID that it was ME who, supposedly, HAS TO PROVE some thing.

And, LOL, FURTHER, what do you think or BELIEVE you have ALREADY PROVED here?
Read OP.
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Re: Something that can be created can also be destroyed

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bahman wrote: Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:09 pm
Age wrote: Sun Jul 03, 2022 1:21 am
bahman wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 2:13 pm
No, I am not saying that creation causes destruction. PLease read OP carefully.
So, when you say:

B can happen because of A.

What does this mean if 'B' is destruction and 'A' is creation, and you are NOT saying 'A' causes 'B'?

If 'B' can happen BECAUSE OF 'A', then what does BECAUSE OF mean if NOT CAUSED?
Yes, A does not cause B.
But this is what I said before, to wit you replied, "No", and now you say, "Yes".

ONCE AGAIN, you CONTRADICT what you have previously stated, and even CLARIFIED.
bahman wrote: Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:09 pm
Age wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:10 pm
bahman wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 2:13 pm
No. I already proved it.
LOL

It was YOU who SAID that it was ME who, supposedly, HAS TO PROVE some thing.

And, LOL, FURTHER, what do you think or BELIEVE you have ALREADY PROVED here?
Read OP.
NOTHING 'proved' there.

In fact, I SHOWED what was Wrong and False there, to which you SAID, "No" to, but which you now SAY, "Yes" to.
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