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Pussy Riot and Democracy in Russia Today

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I recently read After Tocqueville by Chilton Williamson Jr., a writer whose articles I regularly read in the past when I subscribed to the Chronicles Magazine.http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/ I remembered Williamson as a scholar and a sound thinker. Thus, I was excited to read his new book. I am not disappointed and must recommend the book to all who are interested in the so called current movements for “democracy.”

His book is a profound and fascinating blend of prophetic insights from Tocqueville on the advantages and disadvantages of democracy which correspond to observations and insights from some learned contemporary scholars, namely, Jacques Ellul and Bertrand de Jouvenel, with whose writings I am very familiar, and with some other profound current writers on the idea and reality of democracy. http://www.amazon.com/After-Tocqueville ... +democracy

For example, here at pages 209-210 is Williamson on democracy, the Russian people, and Mr. Putin, today:

“Democrats looked for great things from Russia following the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, though optimism was greater among Westerners than the Russian people, who have learned over centuries that pessimism is the highest form of realism. Two decades after the restoration of the historical Russia, democracy is no more realistic a prospect there than than the restoration of the Romanovs. If any people has autocracy embedded in its DNA, that people is the Russians. Culture is destiny, and Russian culture is finally not that of European Russia -- the Russia of Tolstoy, Dostoyevsky, Turgenev, and Solzhenitsyn -- but the Russia of the East. American Cold Warriors expected the Russian masses to accept “democracy” and “freedom” once the triumphant Western powers liberated them from the tyranny of the communist state. In fact, no such thing has happened, and no such thing is likely to happen....

In the postdemocratic world, a noisy minority will always be around to agitate on behalf of “freedom,” “democracy,” and “human rights,” as it does in Russia today. [watch the Pussy Riot interview video below] Nevertheless, the Russian majority is, as the 2012 elections showed, prepared to settle for the corporate national authoritarian government that Vladimir Putin has fashioned during his two terms as president and his prime ministerial tenure under President Dmitry Medvedev -- and now is fashioning as president again. In Putin’s Russia, where nostalgia for the Stalinist regime lingers, political and economic power are one and the same thing, as they were under the czars.”

Finally, Democratic observers will recall that the Russian punk rock band, Pussy Riot, were recently convicted and imprisoned for protesting the rule of President Putin. In this fascinating current interview, we learn that one member will soon be transferred to one of the still-open prisons of the Gulag. We also are told that “there is no democracy in Russia today.
http://www.democracynow.org/2012/9/24/j ... sias_pussy

I highly recommend the book and the DemocracyNow video interview.
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tbieter wrote:I recently read After Tocqueville by Chilton Williamson Jr., a writer whose articles I regularly read in the past when I subscribed to the Chronicles Magazine.http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/ I remembered Williamson as a scholar and a sound thinker. Thus, I was excited to read his new book. I am not disappointed and must recommend the book to all who are interested in the so called current movements for “democracy.”

His book is a profound and fascinating blend of prophetic insights from Tocqueville on the advantages and disadvantages of democracy which correspond to observations and insights from some learned contemporary scholars, namely, Jacques Ellul and Bertrand de Jouvenel, with whose writings I am very familiar, and with some other profound current writers on the idea and reality of democracy. http://www.amazon.com/After-Tocqueville ... +democracy

For example, here at pages 209-210 is Williamson on democracy, the Russian people, and Mr. Putin, today:

“Democrats looked for great things from Russia following the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, though optimism was greater among Westerners than the Russian people, who have learned over centuries that pessimism is the highest form of realism. Two decades after the restoration of the historical Russia, democracy is no more realistic a prospect there than than the restoration of the Romanovs. If any people has autocracy embedded in its DNA, that people is the Russians. Culture is destiny, and Russian culture is finally not that of European Russia -- the Russia of Tolstoy, Dostoyevsky, Turgenev, and Solzhenitsyn -- but the Russia of the East. American Cold Warriors expected the Russian masses to accept “democracy” and “freedom” once the triumphant Western powers liberated them from the tyranny of the communist state. In fact, no such thing has happened, and no such thing is likely to happen....

In the postdemocratic world, a noisy minority will always be around to agitate on behalf of “freedom,” “democracy,” and “human rights,” as it does in Russia today. [watch the Pussy Riot interview video below] Nevertheless, the Russian majority is, as the 2012 elections showed, prepared to settle for the corporate national authoritarian government that Vladimir Putin has fashioned during his two terms as president and his prime ministerial tenure under President Dmitry Medvedev -- and now is fashioning as president again. In Putin’s Russia, where nostalgia for the Stalinist regime lingers, political and economic power are one and the same thing, as they were under the czars.”

Finally, Democratic observers will recall that the Russian punk rock band, Pussy Riot, were recently convicted and imprisoned for protesting the rule of President Putin. In this fascinating current interview, we learn that one member will soon be transferred to one of the still-open prisons of the Gulag. We also are told that “there is no democracy in Russia today.
http://www.democracynow.org/2012/9/24/j ... sias_pussy

I highly recommend the book and the DemocracyNow video interview.
"Ideology, as Russell Kirk admonished us, is political religion, and
democracy worship is a form of idolatry, the worshiping of a false god, a golden
calf, an idol.

And -- while this may border on a hate crime -- some countries are unfit
for democracy. As Edmund Burke remonstrated: "It is ordained in the eternal
constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their
passions forge their fetters."
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The hell with democracy . viva La Putin :twisted:
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If anything at least Putin stabilizes the country. In contrast with his predecessors this guy really knows what PR means, and tries to keep in touch with the masses of his people, which wants dependability before anything.
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iNTERVIEW WITH pUSSY rIOT. http://www.gq.com/news-politics/newsmak ... -interview

Punk rock noise makers belong in prison, especially when they defile religious :x space with their political noise. :x
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