artisticsolution wrote:AS:Then that would be the case with most males...they are bombarding with pornographic images in today's world. I doubt that most men become like RU though.
You have no idea how many people are going to follow in my footsteps when I start describing the reality of our situation...
how many men did it take to loosen your **** up before you got to your husband???
I mean that as a serious question; answer it if you are willing to take this conversation further.
If you tell me then I will tell you the first time I ever watched pornography and the situation I was in.
artisticsolution wrote:The difference is in the conflicting messages. The harm comes when his parents told him that good girls don't...same with Nisus.
How the fuck do you know what my parents told me what is "good" or not???
Quit talking out of your ass ASS!
It makes you look a lot lower than you already-are, which, I do not know if that is even possible...
artisticsolution wrote:Think about it...after seeing this porn...and then becoming aware of how babies were made...and knowing full well you own mom did some of this stuff in order to conceive you...then being taught it was wrong...well...what other choice would you have but to come to the conclusion all women are whores?
Who said my mother degraded herself or did my father to her??? Were you in the bed chamber as I was conceived???
You have no fucking clue ASS
. My issue here has nothing to do with the sex position I was conceived in.
If you were a male, and had a brain, then you might already-know that, this far into the conversation...
artisticsolution wrote:If you are right about RU being damaged because of porn, then Why doesn't he feel this way about men too?
Who said I was "damaged" because of porn? The only thing that "damaged" me in this context is learning that I understand women like you better than you understand yourselves. That is haunting...to be right time & time again...when your intention is to be wrong and mistaken. How many little teenage girls lose their virginity to promises of marriage and "love" I wonder??? What is the going rate on a girls innocence...$5000? Women have a price. And women are not
whores? The only people I have met in life who do not put a price-tag on themselves are idealists. And you need one hell of an ideal
to buy-out what other people are selling these days: their souls
This is about noble v ignoble. You, ASS
and Morpheus, are the latter.
artisticsolution wrote:Education needs to happen...
"We need to utilize propaganda and mind control over children to get them to stop abusing porn! (because we are jealous)"
artisticsolution wrote:but the education that needs to happen is for society to see sex as something pleasurable instead of something 'naughty' and shameful.
So pornography is okay then???
Because I would find it pleasurable to sodomize a few underage girls & boys and then have them lick the cum off my throbbing penis. Is hedonistic pleasure...wrong?
Where is the limit?
How about fucking your family members when they are 9-years-old? Is that socially-acceptable these days?
...well it may be in Britain and Europe, but Amerika still has a way to fall before we drop that low.
artisticsolution wrote:AS: No Morph...I have not been saying this...what I am saying is that the education you are proposing open the doors to make things worse by confirming in a authoritarian viewpoint that sex is indeed something to be ashamed of...something to feel guilty about. When we introduce this type of education we have lost the freedom battle.
What exactly-is this "freedom battle"...sounds like Euro-trash, Liberal bullshit to me.
artisticsolution wrote:Because if we say porn is wrong then what is to stop us from making a law to ban it or regulate it? Give a person an inch and he wants to be a ruler. I am concerned where all this education of yours would lead. I think it would make the majority of men turn into an army of RU's.
You cannot stop momentum without obeying the Rules of Physics, which is where I am stronger than you.
So think about it. You believe you know more about pornography, or its affects, better than I do???
You are just a whorish-slut ASS
who plays girlish games of make-believe to believe you are something you are not...Again, answer me: how many men did you go through until you got to your husband?
Do you fantasize about them while your husbands short dick bothers your hole? (I bet you do.) You probably-still dream about the first one, and the more masculine ones, some of the first picks. But you failed to tame these men. You could not control them through emotional-manipulation. They left you.
artisticsolution wrote:AS: People get addicted to all sorts of things.
In your case, being addicted to your own stupidity and ignorance is the most dangerous thing of all.
I am surprised people like you are even allowed to open their mouths in public.
Then again, stupidity draws a crowd just as well as intelligence.
artisticsolution wrote:Alcoholism also damages a persons well being but we have seen that prohibiting alcohol is not the answer.
The demand for hedonistic inebriation, an attempted return to the supra-conscious state of existence.
It is a regression backward
into childhood...but you are already-there ASS
. When are you going to grow up?
artisticsolution wrote:Education has proven to the world that alcohol addiction is harmful to ones health...does that stop people? No. In fact, most people don't abuse alcohol. Most people do not abuse porn either. Your little education through shame is only going to make matters worse. Porn in itself is not shameful. Porn in itself is not human trafficking. Human trafficking is about slavery and rape. It should not be in the same category as porn. You putting it there is the problem. You not seeing a difference is a problem.
What is the difference between human trafficking and prostitution???
Hint: one woman is given the delusive-belief that it was "her choice".
artisticsolution wrote:M:with my suggestions for 'ethical porn', for in my view this is a contradiction in terms. Even if porn could ever become ethical, no doubt it would lose its appeal.
AS: Then we agree!!! This is what I have been saying...make porn ethical! I doubt that it would lose it's appeal...however...I do think seeing porn as ethical would help people realize that sexuality IS ethical. There is nothing to be ashamed of.
How stupid are you females???
I suppose we should make the use of cocaine ethical
and that would remove the demand!?!?!?
How fucking stupid are you???
artisticsolution wrote:AS: A steady diet of non-aggressive loving making does not sound enjoyable to me. So where does the 'mutually" come into place? I like variety...should I feel ashamed of myself? LOL Well I don't.
"should I feel ashamed of myself?"
No, you should not, because you are a brainless female who has no self-responsibility
This was Nisus point. This is my point now. This is like watching a woman rise-to-power in politics. It is entertaining at the very least. It is viewing the spectacle of little girls & children pretending
they are adults.
Let me know when you answer my question, ASS
, so I can end this conversation once and for all.
Tell me how "shameless" you really
artisticsolution wrote:M:A point about free speech: I also have the freedom to object to violent, sadistic and misogynistic images.
AS:Yes you do...so don't seek them out. But you do not have the right to tell others what they can do.
Wrong, Morpheus, do not listen to ASS
You can tell other people what to do. And if they do not listen to you then force them to act how you want with violence.
This is morally-acceptable. You should impose your morals over
this decrepit, Liberal shit that ASS
It is like a pile of vile shit. It does not belong anywhere except in a toilet.
artisticsolution wrote:M:Free speech in a civilized society worthy of the title does not mean freedom to abuse others.
AS:Right...but sex between consenting adults is not abuse.
A 17-year-old little girl can consent to be fucked by a 30-something-year-old guy living out of his car.
But in this case, he is just using her for his own sexual-gratification, offering her promises he cannot afford to keep: lies.
Here in the USA this is a pedophile case which demonstrates the problem of "consent". Women, being the brainless, stupid fucks that they are (kind of like you two girls), believe that they can "consent" to having sex. This is incorrect. The only true power a female has when it comes to sex is not saying "yes" but rather saying "no
". That is the only true power you have which has not changed since the beginning of time. Women have no true "choice" when it comes to them choosing a mate --because
-- the male is the final judge once he cuts himself loose from the sexual & emotional manipulation that women practice since they first bleed out of their tight little vaginas. Now, feminized men, on the other hand, who will never escape the clutches of control, imposed over them by a womans mind-control, have no idea, no freedom, and no real "choice" except to follow along the whims of a woman. This is the majority-case. But it is not an "absolute" case at all.
Women are not individuals, as made evident by the women of this Failosophy Now
said it the best: women are ignoble. They know no morals. They know no self-responsibility.
All of these must be taught & told to them by men, how to act, and what is or is not acceptable
artisticsolution wrote:you shouldn't force your views on others. I believe the education your are talking about is to use shame...which again...would only make more people like RU.
Yes, Morpheus, you should
force your views on others! ~ especially the morally-decadent ASS
She sees nothing "wrong" with taking a dick up her ASS
. Why should it be "wrong"?
Hell, even I know sexual-gratification feels good
...I know that! That does not remove its negative affects from society!
Force your opinion onto ASS
. Do it, Morpheus. It is okay and morally-acceptable, because, ASS
has no morals.
artisticsolution wrote:M:AS, you've made it clear that you are happy to watch hardcore porn (although your long suffering hubby doesn't like it!)
AS: I didn't say I watched hardcore porn. I am not exactly sure what you think hardcore porn is. Tell me what you consider to be hardcore and I will tell you whether or not I have watched it. But you simply must stop grouping all porn in with human trafficking. It simply isn't and you are not being honest by implying it is.
Morpheus, listen to me...
The women who do porn are convinced
by men that it is "okay" for them. But it is obvious
to anybody with a sense of moral decency
that selling your body for money (prostitution) is "wrong". This turns women, who were once subjects capable of controlling their fate & destiny, into sex objects! And that is true! Then the worth
of women turns into only their sexuality, and nothing more. This is Liberalism. This is an advanced hedonism and fall of Western Morality, into decadence. The signs are all around us.
But how many parents want to raise their daughter into a worthless ****, a whore just like you and ASS???
I know I do not! Do you? Do you want to raise your daughter into believing that sucking all the cum off a dick is her highest virtue in life!?!? I do not. Excuse me if this makes me "different
". Perhaps I am a little "old school" when it comes to my personal beliefs and outlook on life. Excuse me if I am determined not to raise my potential daughter(s) into little whores like are so plentiful these days...but girls just want to have "fun" right? Forget the "self-responsibility", whatever that is. ~ right?
artisticsolution wrote:M:Therefore, I can only conclude that you are not especially concerned that porn actors have died as a direct result of their career choice, or that children are accessing hardcore porn over the internet to the detriment of their emotional wellbeing - which, in turn, affects society as a whole.
AS: I always care when people die, but ethically there is nothing I can do except make them aware that they are in danger (which I believe society has already done.) To force them to behave in a certain way would be slavery....and I am morally opposed to forcing my beliefs on others.
is a liberal weakling. I hope you understand this, Morpheus.
She is "morally-opposed" to forcing her beliefs on others...because she has no morality!
I hope you understand this. It is "okay" to force your beliefs on another. In-fact, that is the only thing people do.
artisticsolution wrote:AS:The difference here is there is nothing wrong with human sexuality. There is something wrong with damaging the Earth.
Human sexuality is
damaging the Earth.
How people treat their bodies signifies how they treat their environment around them.
How willing a man has become to desecrate
women coincides with how men are willing to desecrate everything.
What future to the moral-less have? What future would they make for themselves, or for their children?
Think about it. What kind of world do you
want to live in? I know the answer concerning myself...
...if my daughter became a whore before she left my protection then I would disown her or kill her with my own hands.
...if my son became ignoble or irresponsible for himself then I would publicly shame him and ex-communicate him from my sight.
These are the choices parents must make concerning the (best
) welfare of their children. It is about tough choices.
Becoming a whore, like Morpheus and ASS
are, were easy choices for them to make.