M:Funnily enough, I agree with most of what Richard advocates.
AS: Then you agree with most of what I say as well...as Richard and I have been saying basically the same thing...the only difference is he says it with much more flair. plus he's got the Superman thing going on and who could go against Superman?
M: I don't know why anyone needs marriage at all.
AS: cause it's romantic. The thought of someone putting everything on the line (legally) til death do we part is the epitome of romance imo. However, you are right...a little piece of paper really means nothing since you can always get another little piece of paper that cancels out the first piece of paper.
M:And what kind of sex? Do you mean the violent, misogynist version discussed earlier - such as ejaculating and spitting in a woman's face and calling her foul names? Or, maybe straightforward sexual intercourse between gay or straight couples - or maybe threesomes or even orgies? By the way, in my opinion sex outdoors in the countryside is wonderful if you mean in a secluded place somewhere away from voyouristic eyes.
AS: What does it matter what kind of sex if it is in a secluded place outdoors away from voyeuristic eyes?
M: The most natural thing in the world is sexualised or turned into something shameful or repellent.
AS: This is how I feel about sex in general. I feel it is just as natural.
M: No one has commented on the woman friendly verision that some feminists are advocating.
AS:I was so turned off by that website I may never be able to have sex again! I liked Richard's site much better! (btw...thank you Richard! lol) That being said, I am sure there are people who could get addicted to the feminists site as well. I don't think the addiction has anything to do with the style of porn...as addictions can manifest themselves in a variety of subjects...food, cigarettes, repetitive actions, work...I think addiction is a modern day dilemma brought on by having too much free time on our hands. I don't know the solution. I just know I like hardcore porn(since you defined it as having violent overtones and ejaculation...and I suppose other stuff), I'm just not addicted to it. However, I will say that sex with all the innocence and wonderment (yes...I am still talking about hardcore sex...believe it or not!) is never degrading if you are with a lover who has your best interest in mind. I like to laugh and play...and I don't feel anything I experiment with is degrading. Sex is fantasy...it is exciting and can even be silly at times. Sex for me is as innocent and enjoyable as going to Disneyland. How more ethical can you get?
M: It's this style of sadistic and hateful material that's poisoning young minds...
This is aside from the emotional and physical dis-eases (also substance abuses) commonly experienced by porn actors.
AS: First of all, young minds should not be viewing any type of porn...porn is an adult thing...just like drinking and staying out past curfew. Second, it's obvious that when they get a little older, they need an education that most women do not like this type of treatment for real...just like most car chases and murders in the movies are not real.
I just keep thinking about how you are most certainly correct that many in the porn industry have been abused. But how far do we take regulation? How far do we go when we restrict people's choices based on how capable we feel they are of making decisions? For example, if we ban the 21 year old porn actor from working in porn because we feel he/she is not capable of making informed decisions based on having been sexually abused...then how far do we take that? Do we say they can never enter into any type of contractual agreement because they are not capable of decision making? If they are not capable of choosing a career in porn are they also not capable of buying a house or getting married?
What I am asking is why is hardcore sex itself degrading or abusive? Could it just be our perception? Or is it because there are diseases as you say? Even if so...diseases are more prevalent among people who are promiscuous whether or not they are in the porn industry. I have had (in the past) what you would consider 'degrading' sex...and I have never had a disease. I have a few friends who do not like 'degrading' sex...who have had all types of diseases....because they happen to love one man who happened to be promiscuous. Not to mention I think it is a little harder to get a disease if a man ejaculates or spits on your skin than if he ejaculates or spits inside of you. Not to mention...I don't understand how it is possible to like having sex with a penis and not find everything about it attractive...the look, the taste, the cool tricks it can do! (look ma...no hands!)
Maybe I don't understand your whole argument...I am sorry for that...I am trying very hard to understand....I just don't see what is unnatural about sex.