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Re: What causes porn addiction???

Post by artisticsolution » Sat May 16, 2009 3:39 am

I am seriously at a loss to understand the cluelessness I am hearing in this thread from some people. Just because some men and women see porn as degrading women...reducing them to sexual objects does not mean they are correct in their thinking. In fact, I would say it was the ones who have been taught that a woman's sexuality is something that is not natural and therefore there is something wrong with her if she uses her body as a means of income. This is about the most irrational archaic bull that has been passed down from generation to generation. It is quite simply a horrible evil premise that undermines a woman's strength and thus undermines equality. What is wrong with using all of your strengths in order to make a living? If a woman has intelligence, then there is nothing wrong with her using her mind to make a living...but a woman who has a great body or one who is really good at and enjoys sex is doomed to a life of sleezy bars and cheap tricks to earn a wage? Not everyone can be teachers, doctors, lawyers...and so what? There is nothing wrong with porn. The only thing wrong is if you think it's wrong.

What really gets me is the inhumanity of those who would look down upon a person because they chose porn as a career. The thought of treating people with such disrespect is disgusting. This world is in need of a prozac the size of football if they are seriously pointing fingers at porn and calling sex humiliating. Sex is NOT humiliating! The real mental problems are from the people who consider sex humiliating in the first place! Sex in just sex people...stop being so gullible to believe all Freud's insane crap! Sex is good...it's one of the last pleasant things life has to offer. Stop making it out to be taboo. I would have hoped society would have grown up by now! If anyone tells you that sex is bad...start running...they are quite simply nuts.

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Re: What causes porn addiction???

Post by RachelAnn » Sat May 16, 2009 11:28 am

Artisticsolution writes:
In fact, I would say it was the ones who have been taught that a woman's sexuality is something that is not natural and therefore there is something wrong with her if she uses her body as a means of income.
Agreed. Grown women can do what they damned well please, as long as it is legal. What worries me is exploitation -- of children, especially, and yes I sound like a broken record on that point.

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Re: What causes porn addiction???

Post by Nisus » Sat May 16, 2009 1:16 pm

Thanks for your posts full of misogyny, Artisticsolution. Funny that one of the most famous 'woman haters' of this board is the only one who comes here to expose porn as the male industry that it is, huh? :roll:

I 'respect' women much more than you, a woman, do. And if you really believe that the 'choices' of a porn actress are 'respected', then you don't even know what you are talking about...

Have you ever imagined a daughter of yours being gang-raped by five, ten men and then forced to swallow the cum of theirs? Very beautiful and 'upliting' scene, huh?

Pathetic. :roll:

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Post by Nisus » Sat May 16, 2009 1:32 pm

RachelAnn wrote: Agreed. Grown women can do what they damned well please, as long as it is legal. What worries me is exploitation -- of children, especially, and yes I sound like a broken record on that point.
And what's the difference between abuse of children and abuse of women? Is a porn director less despicable than a pedophile?

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Post by artisticsolution » Sat May 16, 2009 1:55 pm

Nisus,

You are quite simply wrong. You have succumbed to societies twisted view of a woman's sexuality. You are not alone, many women share the same shame that has been handed down generation after generation. It is the start of all that is wrong with society. We allow ourselves to be lead by 'authority' that has no business of leading anyone. Freud was a nutjob. He fooled a whole generation by backing up the archaic misguided thoughts on sexuality in the name of 'science.' He succeeded in brainwashing an entire society wish his madness and you are still falling for it. Snap out of it!

It makes no difference if a woman wants 1 or 20 partners...same as it makes no difference if a man wants 1 or 20 partners. It is not rape if there is adult consent involved because you can't rape the willing. This is why you have such a problem with seeing women as your equal. You can't understand that women like sex just as much as men. Again, you are not alone...most women believe they should hide their sexuality as well. Most of the world was thrilled to have a 'legitimate' reason to ruin something pleasurable in order to keep women 'in their place.' Well, it's about time society grew the fuck up. Women like sex. Deal with it.

Hi RachelAnn,

Yes, I think it is awful when people abuse children. Furthermore, I believe it is the attitudes of people such as Nisus, RU, Satyr who believe women should remain pure...be virgins...the perpetuate child pornography. Because basically, the more liberated women become in their sexuality the less like it will be to find a virgin to use for the one time shot of losing that virginity. The whole mind set makes it so a man will have to look for younger and younger children, in order to fulfill some sick desire to possess another.

I believe the more accepted the adult industry, the more accepted women sexuality will become. But the only way to do that is to go through a period where women see their sexuality as something to enjoy rather than something that is only there to please men. The more women believe this...the more men will follow. It's the nature of the beast...because men want to please women. Freudian crap pleased the women of that generation...he gave them a 'legit' reason to be ashamed of their bodies/sexuality. Now that we know that was bullshit....hopefully we can move forward.

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Re: What causes porn addiction???

Post by Nisus » Sat May 16, 2009 4:08 pm

Go on believing that prostitutes and porn actresses 'choose' their life style, Artistic. Go on believing that they are more than objects to be used by men. That's exactly what the genuine woman-haters want you to believe...

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Re: What causes porn addiction???

Post by Morpheus » Sat May 16, 2009 4:33 pm

Camus Society wrote:Personally, while I can see why men and women (a recent study reported around 30% in the UK regularly use it) enjoy porn I think that it probably does more harm than good.
I'd be very interested to hear your views on why you think porn does more harm than good. I agree with you, as a matter of fact. However, I haven't looked into this issue properly to have a highly informed opinion. I can only go by my gut feelings.

For one thing, I can't for the life of me see how porn can be liberating for the women who take part. I can't see how it's a demonstration of their freedom to enjoy being sexual. Of course women are sexual beings and should not be ashamed of this. However, enjoying sex in a loving relationship is worlds apart from the degradation of prostitution. Especially if Nisus is correct in his description of porn, which may involve violence and repulsive acts of submission. This is degrading for all human beings, including those who fuel the porn industry by paying for such material. How do you know for certain that when you purchase any form of pornographic material that its producer is not also involved in paedophilia, human trafficking and related abhorrent practices?

I'm sure I've read somewhere that there is a high suicide rate amongs porn stars (male and female), for they are deeply disturbed individuals. Yes they may well have been disturbed before getting involved with the porn industry. But their involvement exacerbates an existing disturbance. Also, porn stars (like all prostitutes) are highly vulnerable to STDs, including incurable herpes and AIDS. This brings me to another point: if promiscuous sex is good for us, why does it often result in disease?

It could be argued that soulless sex may not be damaging for everyone. However, my feeling is that anyone who appears to thrive on such a lifestyle must be unusually thick skinned or even psychopathic.

P.S. I know this is not a response about 'porn addiction', but I can't ignore the participants of porn who are complex human beings, not merely bodies for sale.
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Re: What causes porn addiction???

Post by Nisus » Sat May 16, 2009 4:37 pm

You brought some interesting questions in this post, Morpheus...

Now let's see if Camus answers them (and if he will finally explain why "pornography does moe harm than good")...

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Re: What causes porn addiction???

Post by Camus Society » Sat May 16, 2009 8:42 pm

Firstly Nicus, you have offered nothing but opinion, which of course you are entitled to do but this is the Philosophy Now forum rather than the Opinion Now forum. When discussing porn addiction I have given my professional opinion on what I have learned from clients about this addiction. This thread seems to have gone a different course, and now it about whether or not the making and the using of pornography is morally wrong. I have given my opinion on some of the things that you have said which are unclarified statements. You say that women in porn only do it for the money but this raises the following questions:

(1) Why do woman who are well educated and could get, or already have, good careers go into porn. Porn pays the huge 'stars' well but only the tiny minority. The average porn actress has a career of only 2 years. And almost all the actresses make the bulk of their money from personal appearences at strip clubs.

(2) Why do the woman who do make a lot of money continue to work in the porn industry, even after they have made substantial sums?

This isn't saying you are wrong when you say women only go into to porn for money. It just means you need to say more and clarify what you mean.

You also say that porn is necessarily base and degrading but you don't say how it is necessarily so. Rape and forced sex is obviously base and degrading but until you explain how pornography is an act of rape, this idea is merely opinion. Most people think porn is degrading but wouldn't class it as rape, how could they?

You also say that porn is a male dominated business, made for men. But don't address the idea that many women watch and use porn. This doesn't make porn OK, but it challenges the idea that it is exclusively by men for men. In addition, you have in the UK, Karren Brady (former managing director of Birmingham FC) worked within David Sullivan's porn empire. Jaqueline Gold, runs Ann Summers which produced its own porn, Anjili Kara started what is now one of the biggest porn websites in the UK. Christie Heffner was up until recently the CEO of Playboy enterprises. Danni Ashe started and runs the largest porn site in the world. The list goes on.

Finally you haven't defined porn. Would you consider, for example, topless pictures on Page 3 to be base and disgusting, an act of forced sex? What about erotic fiction, George Bataille's The Story of the Eye is that base and disgusting or is it a work of art?

If you just want to share your opinion, in order for it to be fully understood, you need to clarify and expand on the statements you have already made.

Morpheus I think porn does more harm than good for the following reason. Firstly, it must do some good to someone or it wouldn't exist because no-one would want it. However, just because it does someone good, it doesn't mean that it is good itself. Drugs do a lot of people harm and make a minority of people a lot of money - an example of something doing more harm than good. A person may think that drugs help them through a difficult period but actually makes them feel worse in the long term - doing more harm than good. Porn, in my opinion, is similar.

If we want to simplify and call something that does more good than harm, a good thing - and something that does more harm than good, a bad thing then: I think that porn is not a good thing. I think that sex outside of a loving and faithful marriage is not a good thing. This doesn't mean that I think that all pornography is base and disgusting. There is no need to go to such extremes. And by extention I don't think that the men and women in porn are base and disgusting. It is not my place to judge them.

If you did find porn that was a filmed rape (of an adult or child) then it would be base and disgusting because rape is based and disgusting - this leaves Nicus an opportunity to argue that all porn is in fact rape, as some feminists have argued.

If porn was sold to fund pedofiles, terrorists, etc. then that would be obviously wrong - but so would the selling of anything to fund those base and disgusting activities.

The people working in porn are complex human beings, as is everyone. And it does more harm than good to turn away from them in disgust rather than reach out to help them.

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Re: What causes porn addiction???

Post by Morpheus » Sun May 17, 2009 12:22 pm

Camus, you raise the important point about the definition of porn. It would seem that it's categorisation is in the eye of the beholder. What some regard nowadays as 'soft porn' or eroticism would have been very shocking to the general public a century ago or less. Regarding porn addiction - constant exposure to porn in its many manifestations can have a numbing effect. Eventually, no matter how extreme, it ceases to arouse as it's become common place. This is certainly the case with exposure to other forms of violence. At one time public hangings were the norm, whereas such a spectacle today would be experienced as unbelievably shocking to most people.

Just to clarify where I'm coming from: I'm not talking about morals here. I'm not condemning those who become directly involved in porn (i.e. the participants), as I do indeed believe they need help through education above all else. I do, however, condemn those who pull the strings. I condemn the criminals involved in human trafficking and pimping, which is tied up with the illegal drug trade. And those whose lust for money sees no bounds.

For those who use porn and see nothing wrong with it, I ask this question: would you in all honesty be happy for your son or daughter to be a porn actor? How would you really feel if your own child (at the age of consent) became a body for sale - a soulless piece of flesh for others to masturbate over? Of course you would still love your child, but wouldn't you try to persuade them to follow a different path? If not, why not?

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Re: What causes porn addiction???

Post by Morpheus » Sun May 17, 2009 2:51 pm

I don't know how accurate the following report is, but according to its author, Shelley Lubben (ex-porn star), 60-80% of porn actors were sexually abused as children. Perhaps I should have started a new thread on this issue, but I'll post here for now.

http://www.shelleylubben.com/articles/p ... xabuse.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here's her website: http://www.shelleylubben.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'd also like to learn about male porn actors and their backgrounds.

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Post by artisticsolution » Sun May 17, 2009 4:29 pm

Hi Morpheus,

M: Regarding porn addiction - constant exposure to porn in its many manifestations can have a numbing effect. Eventually, no matter how extreme, it ceases to arouse as it's become common place.

AS: It's true...constant exposure to porn can have a numbing effect. But this can be said with any relationship...the longer we are exposed to any sexual experience (including those with the people we love) is eventually going to have a numbing effect. Hell, even if we try to constantly spice up our sex lives it's going to have a numbing effect simply for the fact we will grow tired (and probably resentful) for have to do so much 'work' for love. It's so much better to know that the numbing effect is natural and does not mean we have 'fallen out of love' (this applies to the porn addict as well…because the ‘porn’ becomes the ‘lover’.

If we could just relax a little...eventually the lust will come back. It's only when we try to force feeling of lust that it becomes a problem. This is when we obsess over not 'feeling' a certain way and then we allow our minds to play trick on us, making us believe we have to 'do' something about it (and that something is usually not well thought out) because we want instant gratification. We are like babies..."I want love/lust NOW. I'm not getting it from my current partner/porn, so therefore I must go in search of bigger and better!" Typical human bullshit.

M:Just to clarify where I'm coming from: I'm not talking about morals here. I'm not condemning those who become directly involved in porn (i.e. the participants), as I do indeed believe they need help through education above all else.

AS: Morph, basically what I am hearing here is "If only people were educated like me, they would see his or her morals were all screwed up." This might be very true, however...not everyone is going to have your education. I believe education would be a good thing, However, the education of division is not what I think we need. I think we need to understand that not everyone is going to be alike in his or her desire. When we separate the 'good girls' from the 'bad girls' we only succeed in allowing women to be herded into groups for men. So then we raise a group of men who, as human sexual beings, want to hit everything in sight....and, at the same time they want to be seen as 'good'. However, society says there are ‘good girls’ and ‘bad girls’…so …they marry the 'good girls' and have sex with them...and behind the scenes they screw the 'bad girls' and abuse them. Now, here is my main concern with all of this, the men who separate women into groups of 'good and bad' and choose the ‘good’ ones to love, are believed to be upstanding men in our society. After all, It’s obviously to all of us that that a man who goes after a 'good girl' has morals. Well to me that is bullshit. A man who takes a woman a bride simply for the fact she is a 'good girl' shows me he is just as sexist as the one who lusts after the "bad girl" because he wants sex. Each man is dividing women into groups. This is what I feel needs to change with education. This type of division is what I find disgusting. It limits women by placing a value on her sexuality. I don’t see anyone here talking about male porn stars. It is just accepted that they are supposed to have lust. Men will be men. People are going to be abused.... always....that is never going to change. But why should society continue to abuse women by looking down on them in disgust? It’s these feelings about sexuality that have to change.

M:For those who use porn and see nothing wrong with it, I ask this question: would you in all honesty be happy for your son or daughter to be a porn actor? How would you really feel if your own child (at the age of consent) became a body for sale - a soulless piece of flesh for others to masturbate over? Of course you would still love your child, but wouldn't you try to persuade them to follow a different path? If not, why not?

AS: It's funny you should mention this. When my first son was born I was a little concerned...as I had never really been around babies (never babysat, etc.) I whispered jokingly to my husband, " I hope it doesn't stay like that. I would hate to see my child want to go into the porn industry and not be able to because of certain ...uh...physical limitations." LOL Of course I was kidding....but in all truthfulness a mother wants the best for her babies. She wants them to be beautiful on the inside as well as the outside. However that does not mean I can tell my child what to do when he becomes an adult. My mother made my life hell by trying to control my every action. I will not do that to my sons. I will trust they know what will make them happy, and even if they don't, they will learn...eventually...without my help. I feel I have 18 years to teach them the lessons I have learned in order to achieve peace, but after that, it is up to them to decide for themselves. Of course I will always love them, but after they become adults I will keep my mouth shut...because for me to say anything after that might be taking away they joy they deserve to experience by finding their own answers. All decisions come with consequences.

M:How would you really feel if your own child (at the age of consent) became a body for sale - a soulless piece of flesh for others to masturbate over?

AS: Soulless? Hmmm...is that what people become when someone has the urge to masturbate over their image? That must mean most of us running around are soulless...because I am sure most of us have our fantasies/ own little porn flicks going through our mind when we masturbate.

P.S...Regarding the Shelly lubbin excerpt...how is feeling sorry for and grouping people into categories of those who are "good" (i.e. had good childhood’s, therefore have souls) and those who are 'bad; (i.e. had abusive childhood’s therefore are 'bad' people who are soulless)? I still maintain it's thoughts like these that make it impossible for society to break free from their prejudice. People who have a good childhood are just a prone to feel lust as those who have had an abusive childhood. It's just that the people with 'good' childhood believe they are a little better than the ones who have had abusive ones. And that is about as sick as you can get imo . That thought...at it's core...is why humanity will never change. Our minds want to feel superior...we can't break free of these thoughts no matter how hard we try. We constantly think we are above the herd, and by doing so, we become exactly like the herd.

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Post by Nisus » Sun May 17, 2009 5:12 pm

Ok, Camus, after this last response of your I've come to think that I might have sound a bit prejudiced and extreme. So let me clear some things up:

First off, when I say that porn is base, humiliating and disgusting I don't mean to offend the people who make it. Obviously, I'm no better than them and cannot judge them. You're right about this. But what's disgusting is the concept behind porn itself, what happens to be particularly humiliating for the women who participate in the movies- the idea that women are out there, just waiting for the next guy who's willing to abuse them.

My judgement is based on the porn movies I have already watched (yes, like all the other young Western males I have watched porn too, though I am very happy today for not resorting to this kind of rubbish anymore). The scene is always invariably made in the sense that the guy is the 'tough man' who fucks all bitches who are around him and the woman is the whore, the slut ever ready to be fucked by every man available. And the scene must necessarily end with the guy(s) cumming or spitting on the girl's face. If the idea is not humiliating the girl, what's it?

if thehe level of depravity of a gang-bang scene is something that disgusts even a man, what can we say about a woman who watches it? Have you ever watched one of those scenes? Can you avoid vomiting when you see those things? How can one possibly believe that it's not "degrading" for a woman be submitted to such a situation???

Second, I think you do not really disagree with anything I am saying here. If you were, you wouldn't mention your need to 'help' people who are addicted to porn. Why help them? Don't they simply have some fun with an adult, 'responsible' sort of entertainment?

Third, what makes women do porn, in my view, is the degrading idea that everything one does for money is justified in this world. I do not, in any way, believe that a woman actually feels pleasure in being beaten and violated by a lot of men. I have already watched many scenes in which it was clear that the woman was feeling rather embarassed with that situation. But since they are told, since childhood, that their bodies exists just to be sexually explored, why not indulge in making porn?

Fourth, why is porn an act of rape? Why is porn a male industry dedicated to the sexual abuse of women? Because it's not natural, it's something forced, artificial, degrading to every women. Because, just like the real life rape, it's based on the idea that when a woman cannot be used sexually, she has no use in this world. And because the women in the Western world do not actually have any real respect for themselves. They do not look at themselves as beings worth of respect. Read the posts Artisticsolution is making in this thread. She is a woman. And she is 'defending' the 'right' of a woman to make porn. Now, is she responsible for what she's saying? No, she's not. It's not the woman who makes or watches porn that is responsible for anything. A man who lets her daughter, her sister or her wife make or watch porn is the most probable guilty here, even though it could be argued that in this world the men themselves are told to treat women like shit, sexual objects, and that's the reason it's so common to hear of cases of child abuse these days...

let's try to establish a connection...why do (some) men abuse children? Because they can't control themselves and because they live in a world where the greatest 'value' is the pursuit of pleasure. Now, why do men abuse women? For the same reason, with the difference that through the production of porn movies the sexual abuse of women has become a legalized feature of Western 'societies'...

Does that mean that women do not feel pleasure with sex? Of course they do. But women are emotional, fragile beings. They see everything with pink-coloured glasses. If it wasn't for the money, I woman would never let 20 men cum on her face. The money and the need to tell society that she's eactly like all the other girls around there, i.e., nothing but a bitch.

Fifth, the male industry thing...

Tell me, who do you think that have created porn? Women? Who do you think that have made the first porn movies? Women? Who are the most famous porn directors? Women? who plays the dominant role in every porn scene? The girl?

If women make money with porn is because the males of society allow them to do so. Everything women do they do because men allow them to do it, everywhere and at every time. If the men who control society tell women to never open their mouths before their husbands, that's what they will do. If they tell them that they are whores to be sexually used by everyone they will do it. Women never create or change anything, they follow.

They follow what men tell them to do.

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Re: What causes porn addiction???

Post by Morpheus » Sun May 17, 2009 5:32 pm

AS: It's true...constant exposure to porn can have a numbing effect. But this can be said with any relationship...the longer we are exposed to any sexual experience (including those with the people we love) is eventually going to have a numbing effect. Hell, even if we try to constantly spice up our sex lives it's going to have a numbing effect simply for the fact we will grow tired (and probably resentful) for have to do so much 'work' for love. It's so much better to know that the numbing effect is natural and does not mean we have 'fallen out of love' (this applies to the porn addict as well…because the ‘porn’ becomes the ‘lover’.

It's perfectly natural to desire less sex as a relationship 'ages', but surely this isn't about 'numbing' as such. Surely it's about having moved from the 'manic' phase of being in love to the comfortable phase of a long-term relationship where sex is less frequent, but just as enjoyable when it does happen? In any case, as I'm sure we'd all agree, there's far more to a long-term relationship than sex. If sex is the mainstay, then chances are the relationship will fade out.

Just to clarify where I'm coming from: I'm not talking about morals here. I'm not condemning those who become directly involved in porn (i.e. the participants), as I do indeed believe they need help through education above all else.

AS: Morph, basically what I am hearing here is "If only people were educated like me, they would see his or her morals were all screwed up."

No, you've totally misunderstood. The education I'm talking about is educating the general public (including yourself) about the reality of the porn industry, not academic education! I'm talking about educating the public about the exploitation of vulnerable people, male and female. The dark side of the porn industry that no one wants to consider when getting turned on by the images.

AS: I think we need to understand that not everyone is going to be alike in his or her desire. When we separate the 'good girls' from the 'bad girls'

Again, you've totally missed my point. I'm not talking about good girls and bad girls. That's the argument you're probably used to discussing with others. I'm talking about something much deeper. I've already explained this earlier so I won't repeat myself. Please look at the website link included above. Read what really goes on behind the scenes - the human misery and disease. This is something totally different from 'morals'. The porn industry is not a hotbed of happiness. On the contrary.

AS: When my first son was born I was a little concerned...as I had never really been around babies (never babysat, etc.) I whispered jokingly to my husband, " I hope it doesn't stay like that. I would hate to see my child want to go into the porn industry and not be able to because of certain ...uh...physical limitations." LOL Of course I was kidding....but in all truthfulness a mother wants the best for her babies. She wants them to be beautiful on the inside as well as the outside. However that does not mean I can tell my child what to do when he becomes an adult. My mother made my life hell by trying to control my every action. I will not do that to my sons. I will trust they know what will make them happy, and even if they don't, they will learn...eventually...without my help. I feel I have 18 years to teach them the lessons I have learned in order to achieve peace, but after that, it is up to them to decide for themselves. Of course I will always love them, but after they become adults I will keep my mouth shut...because for me to say anything after that might be taking away they joy they deserve to experience by finding their own answers. All decisions come with consequences. [/i]

Presumably your children were loved, and thus emotionally undamaged. Therefore, they are highly unlikely to become porn actors. I don't dictate what my children do with their lives. However, I'd be deeply concerned if they chose the porn industry and would certainly express my concern to them. I'd always love them, but I'd do my utmost to talk them out of it. Likewise, I'd do my utmost to rescue them from any other source of harm. Furthermore, I'd be blaming myself, wondering what I might have done as a parent to contribute to their chosen path in life. The fact is, they are not porn actors.

I find it hard to believe that you would be comfortable to see a daughter or son of yours having hardcore 'fun' on the big screen. I find it hard to believe that you'd be proudly telling others about your child's career choice.

AS: Soulless? Hmmm...is that what people become when someone has the urge to masturbate over their image?

You've missed my point entirely. When people look at pornography, they don't consider the real people behind the images. In this respect, the image is soulless. The people themselves are far from soulless. That's the tragedy. The truth is, many of the participants in porn films are emotionally damaged people, frequently adult victims of child sexual abuse - if we are to believe the information provided by the ex porn star mentioned earlier.


AS .Regarding the Shelly lubbin excerpt...how is feeling sorry for and grouping people into categories of those who are "good" (i.e. had good childhood’s, therefore have souls) and those who are 'bad; (i.e. had abusive childhood’s therefore are 'bad' people who are soulless)?

I'm shocked that you've misunderstood me in this way! Surely you don't really belive that's what I meant? I'm flabbergasted that you think I'm categorising people as 'good' and 'bad'. You are projecting a totally different meaning into my words.
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Re: What causes porn addiction???

Post by Nisus » Sun May 17, 2009 5:39 pm

Again, you bring an interesting point in your post, Morpheus: porn is a very powerful industry these days. Online or offline we are exposed to it every single day. No surprise so many people get 'addicted'.

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