A Letter from No One to No One

Can philosophers help resolve the real problems that people have in their lives?

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A Letter from No One to No One

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Dear Psychiatric Medical Professionals:

We have a very BIG problem. Lots of people are suffering in this world over what is being done and/or what has been done. How do we get all the psychiatric help we need? For it is no one's fault what happens in the world. The world is what it is and there will always be crimes and the corresponding victims of those crimes. Do you have a medicine which will make victims happy when we are sad that it happened, concentrate when we are distracted by the thoughts of it having happened, calm us when we are anxious over whether it will happen again or make us pleasant and agreeable when we are angry over what happened..? And why do all your drugs which you currently give us for those things simply make us feel detached, apathetic and uncaring instead of happy, focused, calm or pleasant..?

Sincerely,

The People of World
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lethargic citizens looking for their next fix are easier to control in the name of utopia

smoke more dope

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Impenitent wrote: Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:48 am lethargic citizens looking for their next fix are easier to control in the name of utopia

smoke more dope

-Imp
Good point. AND, it's easier for crimes to continue when you dope only the victims, I would add.
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Gary Childress wrote: Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:37 am
Impenitent wrote: Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:48 am lethargic citizens looking for their next fix are easier to control in the name of utopia

smoke more dope

-Imp
Good point. AND, it's easier for crimes to continue when you dope only the victims, I would add.
the promise of paradise is the ultimate sin

-Imp
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Gary Childress wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:36 pm Dear Psychiatric Medical Professionals:

We have a very BIG problem. Lots of people are suffering in this world over what is being done and/or what has been done. How do we get all the psychiatric help we need? For it is no one's fault what happens in the world. The world is what it is and there will always be crimes and the corresponding victims of those crimes. Do you have a medicine which will make victims happy when we are sad that it happened, concentrate when we are distracted by the thoughts of it having happened, calm us when we are anxious over whether it will happen again or make us pleasant and agreeable when we are angry over what happened..? And why do all your drugs which you currently give us for those things simply make us feel detached, apathetic and uncaring instead of happy, focused, calm or pleasant..?

Sincerely,

The People of World
A happy pill would be nice, but unfortunately the human mind isn't designed to be permanently happy(more like permanently miserable) and you get all kinds of horrific problems when you try to make it that way.
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Gary Childress wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:36 pm Dear Psychiatric Medical Professionals:

We have a very BIG problem. Lots of people are suffering in this world over what is being done and/or what has been done. How do we get all the psychiatric help we need? For it is no one's fault what happens in the world. The world is what it is and there will always be crimes and the corresponding victims of those crimes. Do you have a medicine which will make victims happy when we are sad that it happened, concentrate when we are distracted by the thoughts of it having happened, calm us when we are anxious over whether it will happen again or make us pleasant and agreeable when we are angry over what happened..? And why do all your drugs which you currently give us for those things simply make us feel detached, apathetic and uncaring instead of happy, focused, calm or pleasant..?

Sincerely,

The People of World
Legalise MDMA - get it out of the hands of those that make a shit effort of creating it - the bikies, and provide prescriptions. Problem sorted.
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Impenitent wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:05 am
Gary Childress wrote: Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:37 am
Impenitent wrote: Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:48 am lethargic citizens looking for their next fix are easier to control in the name of utopia

smoke more dope

-Imp
Good point. AND, it's easier for crimes to continue when you dope only the victims, I would add.
the promise of paradise is the ultimate sin

-Imp
"Paradise" is for those without conscience or compassion. The rest of us are stuck here with them.
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Us and Them.

The human delusion.
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Walker wrote: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:38 am Us and Them.

The human delusion.
No "delusion" when it comes to the power relations between psychiatrists and their "patients".
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Betraying the Most Vulnerable

https://www.city-journal.org/mentally-ill-ada
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Walker wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:15 am Betraying the Most Vulnerable

https://www.city-journal.org/mentally-ill-ada
Who is betraying the most vulnerable?
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From the link:

“New York State Office of Mental Health commissioner Ann Sullivan defends the rush to clear out institutions, which saves her department money. Her office claims that only about 10 percent of mentally ill people discharged failed to thrive, but the Office of Mental Health doesn’t monitor failures. Clinicians and others on the frontlines argue the rate of failure is as high as 50 percent. Sullivan told the Times, “I truly believe that stigma and discrimination have historically left too many individuals with serious mental illness living in institutions.” What she ignores is that closing hospitals does not reduce institutionalization; it simply shifts the burden of care to jails. Nationwide, more than 42 state psychiatric hospitals have shut their doors since the Olmstead decision, leaving many of the seriously mentally ill with nowhere to go. Ten times as many seriously mentally ill people are now incarcerated as hospitalized.”
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I feel your question highlights the uselessness of academic philosophy. There is no need for a happy pill. The way to find lasting happiness is well-documented and well-tested. It is to overcome psychology by rising above it.

As Meher Baba says, 'True happiness is Oneness. Wherever there is duality there is trouble'.

The philosophy department will rarely have any idea what this statement means. It is not concerned with solving problems.
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Gary Childress wrote: Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:16 pm
Walker wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:15 am Betraying the Most Vulnerable

https://www.city-journal.org/mentally-ill-ada
Who is betraying the most vulnerable?
It appears to be the ADA (ironically?) because it permits the mentally ill to live independently, ready or not.
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commonsense wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:48 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:16 pm
Walker wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:15 am Betraying the Most Vulnerable

https://www.city-journal.org/mentally-ill-ada
Who is betraying the most vulnerable?
It appears to be the ADA (ironically?) because it permits the mentally ill to live independently, ready or not.
Nothing wrong with living independently. As long as disability can meet the basic needs it's better than living in a dorm/hospital. I know many people with varying diagnoses who live independently and I also know some who can't find affordable housing. I don't think we want to go back to the days of locking people in asylums for life.
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