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'doy' 'oh wait' 'that kid deserved it'
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SecularCauses wrote:
Khalid wrote:

Please watch this video at the second 6:30 . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuylWon9TkU . An American official talking about the debts with a friend or a journalist . And this was the conversation .
The journalist : You don't think that the national debt is an important issue ?
The official : The national debt measures the wealth of the country .
The journalist : The national debt has to be paid .
The official interrupts : It means the more wealthy we are .
The journalist : The more debt you have , the more wealthy you are ?!!
The official : It's a reference to the state's wealth .
The journalist : Then why don't we borrow another trillion of dollars this year ?

Then the official starts to get nervous as he can't explain his words and get's mad at the man to end the conversation and leave the office .

Today the U.S government has over 14.5 trillion of dollars of debts according to 2011/2012 statistics , a number that's too big to be paid back . Also the usury system of the federal reserve bank that's implemented on the loans given to the government makes it impossible for that number to be reduced due to the interests added to the loans . The American economy is fucked up and absolutely controlled by that Jewish banking system .
Boy, are you completely off your meds. The economic theory that the politician was referring to comes from John Maynard Keynes. He was a non-Jew, a British economist.
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The World economy is not fucked because of Keynesianism. It's fucked because of the Milton Friedman movement's advice about de-regulation encouraged by people like Greenspan, Bernancke and Madoff who engineered the derivatives markets to their own advantage, and laughed all the way to the bank whilst everyone else lost their shirts.
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In 1929 there was practically no government spending. The Crash was caused by people borrowing money in order to buy shares that were actually worthless. More borrowing to buy more shares that were hyped up by people buying more shares.
Borrowers lost their shirts but many people made a great deal of money.
Guess who? Lenders! Obviously they lost a lot of bad debt - but they had already made their personal millions.
(The same thing happened 4 years ago, but the shares were shares or shares called derivatives, based on bad mortgages.)

It was Keynesian policies enacted by the New Deal and the massive spending during WW2 that solved the problem.
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once, i've vomited in public.
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chaz wyman wrote: I do not accept that there is an...
would you accept it if your children were tortured by americans?
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chaz wyman wrote:In 1929 there was practically no government spending. The Crash was caused by people borrowing money in order to buy shares that were actually worthless. More borrowing to buy more shares that were hyped up by people buying more shares.
Borrowers lost their shirts but many people made a great deal of money.
Guess who? Lenders! Obviously they lost a lot of bad debt - but they had already made their personal millions.
(The same thing happened 4 years ago, but the shares were shares or shares called derivatives, based on bad mortgages.)

It was Keynesian policies enacted by the New Deal and the massive spending during WW2 that solved the problem.
Nope, not even close. For one thing, if Keynesian economics worked, then Obama's repeated stimulus packages would have worked, but they didn't. There is not a single shred of evidence to support Keynesian economics. It is pseudoeconomics. But, since you are a national socialist you love the nonsense.

The FED was actually in existence before the Great Depression and it was supposed to prevent such a disaster. Even the FED now amounts its policies led to the problem. There was a previous credit crisis years earlier without the FED, and by allowing the free market to work, the problem was solved quickly.

The New Deal also was responsible for our recent economic crisis, and did not help the economy, but prolonged the crisis.

You really need to grow up, chaz, your comments are way off base. Bankers don't make money when people don't pay them back. And, in the 1930s, the Jews were discriminated against, and were a very small minority of all American bankers.

I understand you hate Jews, have no clue about physics, have no clue about economics, but engage in magical socialist thinking. Now, let's take the so-called Keynesian multiplier to the test. the multiplier is 1/(1-MPC), MPC being the marginal propensity to consume. Meaning, if someone gets a dollar raise, and then spend only 60% of the raise, then the MPC is 0.60. Now, what would happen if the MPC was 1? That would mean the multiplier would zoom to infinity. Yet, does any person with half a brain cell think that we could create a continued, dramatic, economic expansion by giving a worker a one cent raise and hope he spends that entire penny? Because, without exaggeration, that is what Keynes claimed with his formula. Not only does it have no evidence for that claim, but anyone with a bit of math under their belt canlaugh at the claim.

There is another way of exposing the fallacy of Keynes. His claim was that the government could spend money and create amazing economic growth, so no one should ever try to save or invest. That's a sure recipe for disaster. But, think of it this way, the community produces a certain amount of wealth. The government then confiscates a portion, and uses up some of it on employee expenses and other expenses, as it transfers the wealth to someone else in the community. The net result? The community as a whole now has less than it produced on its own. It is mathematically impossible for any government to increase what a community produces on its own. Keynes was a simpleton.
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President Kennedy opposed Jewish bankers and in 1963 he signed an Executive Order which returned to the American government the ability to print it's own currency once more without having to deal with the Federal Reserve.

In the infamous Nixon tapes, President Nixon openly admits the Jewish ran America.

This is fact not anti semitism.
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reasonvemotion wrote:President Kennedy opposed Jewish bankers and in 1963 he signed an Executive Order which returned to the American government the ability to print it's own currency once more without having to deal with the Federal Reserve.

In the infamous Nixon tapes, President Nixon openly admits the Jewish ran America.

This is fact not anti semitism.
LOL. You and chaz really need to lay-off those hate sites, they are warping your brain. Prove your bullshit then. Prove it. Show me the millions of memos going back and forth between Jews to control the US? I have yet to see any such documentation. You Jew-hating scum merely refer to the forged Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, which is actual prooof of how Jew-hating scum conspire together and tell lies about Jews. All you are is a fucking retarded bitch. A Jewish guy dumps your slutty ass and you go all anti-semitic. Fuck you.
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reasonvemotion wrote:President Kennedy opposed Jewish bankers and in 1963 he signed an Executive Order which returned to the American government the ability to print it's own currency once more without having to deal with the Federal Reserve.

In the infamous Nixon tapes, President Nixon openly admits the Jewish ran America.

This is fact not anti semitism.
Here is a debunking of your anti-semitic crap argument: 1. IF the Jews control the US, and manipulate the President, then why did the Jews decide to have the anti-semitic Nixon elected President? The Watergate Tapes are full of anti-semitic comments from him, so that seems rather odd for the Jewish cabal to do? 2. The US government always had the right to print its own money, it is in the US Constitution. Further, the FED, since 1913 is under US government control, and it allows the Federal Government to print as much money as it wants. 3. An Executive Order cannot change the US Constitution or any law established by Congress, it can merely be used within the executive branch. 4. If Nixon were to have said that blacks were evil, would you believe him? How could he know such a thing? You would reject his comments as coming from an ignorant bigot. Yet, when he tells you something you want to hear about Jews, all of a sudden, he is this fount of wisdom? All you have is a statement from an anti-semitic President, a President who should not have even been elected if your claim were true that the Jews control America. In fact, since the anti-semite Nixon was elected, he should have taken a few moments to consider the fact that since he was President, and he hates Jews, the Jews could not be running America. 5. If the President had any knowledge of criminal activity on the part of the Jews, which is what there would be if they controlled everything, then how come the anti-semitic Nixon never had this Jewish cabal taken to court and exposed? It's because he had no evidence, which is exactly where you are at as well with your Jew-hating bullshit.
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Saying that Jews run the US is not anti-semitic in any sense.
It is only the hurt pride of white gentile americans that think they have control of their own country that make them accuse other of anti-semitism,

The fact is that 2000years of persecution has meant that the only surviving Jews are the ones that have made it good, have managed to avoid death and conversion to Christianity.

For most jews there has been a choice - convert, die or flee. For most of that time money lending was banned by the church and so attracted jews. These jews played a very important role in society - even though still persecuted they financed the growth of Europe at a time when the the new markets and the new world were opening up (e.g. Merchant of Venice).

The US and the UK is full of immigrant Jews who have fled places like Russia and Germany. The proportion of higher intelligent and elite Jews is much higher on account of the simple fact that it takes money and resources to emigrate.

That is why jews hit above their weight in Science, the arts, and in finance and business.

If you want to find an anti-semite - then look to yourself. You who deny that simple fact that Jews are doing much better than you.
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chaz wyman wrote:Saying that Jews run the US is not anti-semitic in any sense.
It is only the hurt pride of white gentile americans that think they have control of their own country that make them accuse other of anti-semitism,

The fact is that 2000years of persecution has meant that the only surviving Jews are the ones that have made it good, have managed to avoid death and conversion to Christianity.

For most jews there has been a choice - convert, die or flee. For most of that time money lending was banned by the church and so attracted jews. These jews played a very important role in society - even though still persecuted they financed the growth of Europe at a time when the the new markets and the new world were opening up (e.g. Merchant of Venice).

The US and the UK is full of immigrant Jews who have fled places like Russia and Germany. The proportion of higher intelligent and elite Jews is much higher on account of the simple fact that it takes money and resources to emigrate.

That is why jews hit above their weight in Science, the arts, and in finance and business.



If you want to find an anti-semite - then look to yourself. You who deny that simple fact that Jews are doing much better than you.
Make up you mind! You said yourself that Judaism is only a religion therefore atheists can't be Jewish. Most of those Jewish scientists would be atheists. Are you aware of the religious beliefs of these people you keep referring to?
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
chaz wyman wrote:Saying that Jews run the US is not anti-semitic in any sense.
It is only the hurt pride of white gentile americans that think they have control of their own country that make them accuse other of anti-semitism,

The fact is that 2000years of persecution has meant that the only surviving Jews are the ones that have made it good, have managed to avoid death and conversion to Christianity.

For most jews there has been a choice - convert, die or flee. For most of that time money lending was banned by the church and so attracted jews. These jews played a very important role in society - even though still persecuted they financed the growth of Europe at a time when the the new markets and the new world were opening up (e.g. Merchant of Venice).

The US and the UK is full of immigrant Jews who have fled places like Russia and Germany. The proportion of higher intelligent and elite Jews is much higher on account of the simple fact that it takes money and resources to emigrate.

That is why jews hit above their weight in Science, the arts, and in finance and business.



If you want to find an anti-semite - then look to yourself. You who deny that simple fact that Jews are doing much better than you.
Make up you mind! You said yourself that Judaism is only a religion therefore atheists can't be Jewish. Most of those Jewish scientists would be atheists. Are you aware of the religious beliefs of these people you keep referring to?
People who self-identify as jewish. That is jew"-ish" - not exactly jews but whose parents are.
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Saying that Jews run the US is not anti-semitic in any sense.
It is only the hurt pride of white gentile americans that think they have control of their own country that make them accuse other of anti-semitism,

The fact is that 2000years of persecution has meant that the only surviving Jews are the ones that have made it good, have managed to avoid death and conversion to Christianity.

For most jews there has been a choice - convert, die or flee. For most of that time money lending was banned by the church and so attracted jews. These jews played a very important role in society - even though still persecuted they financed the growth of Europe at a time when the the new markets and the new world were opening up (e.g. Merchant of Venice).

The US and the UK is full of immigrant Jews who have fled places like Russia and Germany. The proportion of higher intelligent and elite Jews is much higher on account of the simple fact that it takes money and resources to emigrate.

That is why jews hit above their weight in Science, the arts, and in finance and business.

If you want to find an anti-semite - then look to yourself. You who deny that simple fact that Jews are doing much better than you.

Agree.
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reasonvemotion wrote:
Saying that Jews run the US is not anti-semitic in any sense.
It is only the hurt pride of white gentile americans that think they have control of their own country that make them accuse other of anti-semitism,

The fact is that 2000years of persecution has meant that the only surviving Jews are the ones that have made it good, have managed to avoid death and conversion to Christianity.

For most jews there has been a choice - convert, die or flee. For most of that time money lending was banned by the church and so attracted jews. These jews played a very important role in society - even though still persecuted they financed the growth of Europe at a time when the the new markets and the new world were opening up (e.g. Merchant of Venice).

The US and the UK is full of immigrant Jews who have fled places like Russia and Germany. The proportion of higher intelligent and elite Jews is much higher on account of the simple fact that it takes money and resources to emigrate.

That is why jews hit above their weight in Science, the arts, and in finance and business.

If you want to find an anti-semite - then look to yourself. You who deny that simple fact that Jews are doing much better than you.

Agree.
thanks.
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chaz wyman wrote:
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
chaz wyman wrote:Saying that Jews run the US is not anti-semitic in any sense.
It is only the hurt pride of white gentile americans that think they have control of their own country that make them accuse other of anti-semitism,

The fact is that 2000years of persecution has meant that the only surviving Jews are the ones that have made it good, have managed to avoid death and conversion to Christianity.

For most jews there has been a choice - convert, die or flee. For most of that time money lending was banned by the church and so attracted jews. These jews played a very important role in society - even though still persecuted they financed the growth of Europe at a time when the the new markets and the new world were opening up (e.g. Merchant of Venice).

The US and the UK is full of immigrant Jews who have fled places like Russia and Germany. The proportion of higher intelligent and elite Jews is much higher on account of the simple fact that it takes money and resources to emigrate.

That is why jews hit above their weight in Science, the arts, and in finance and business.



If you want to find an anti-semite - then look to yourself. You who deny that simple fact that Jews are doing much better than you.
Make up you mind! You said yourself that Judaism is only a religion therefore atheists can't be Jewish. Most of those Jewish scientists would be atheists. Are you aware of the religious beliefs of these people you keep referring to?
People who self-identify as jewish. That is jew"-ish" - not exactly jews but whose parents are.

OMG. So they are 'jew-ish' when it comes to you saying they rule the world, but not Jewish when it comes to Israel. I get it now. What about grand-parents, or great-grandparents?
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