Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:11 pm
Astro Cat wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 11:15 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 1:02 am
Not at all. You can be an individual and vote.
But vote as an individual, for the candidates and parties that actually have the policies you regard as best. Vote for those that maximize opportunity and don't overreach. Vote for those with sane economic policies, good character, and a track record of success. Don't vote for a candidate just because he's red or blue.
I wish two things: one, that there *were* candidates I agreed with more readily.
Now, THAT, I agree with totally.
I find it quite astonishing that we have had, in the last few years, candidates of such low, low quality, either in your country or mine, or in other countries in Europe. In many cases, it's almost like we couldn't find anybody for the job, and just pressed into service anybody who would say, "Okay," rather than seeking out the best and most competent public servants.
In the days when this was being written, finding ANY adult human being who was worthy of being a so-called "leader" was just about an IMPOSSIBILITY. ALL of 'you' had been so HARMED and DAMAGED from your ABUSIVE childhoods that 'you' ALL had just ended up to GREEDY and to SELFISH for ANY one's well being.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:11 pm
We have a distinct lack of
statesmen, and an abundance of
politicians.
Well "politicians" are EXACTLY what 'you', adult human beings, VOTE FOR, WANT, and PUT IN.
And, what is a so-called "statesmen", exactly, other than just another skilled or respected "politician"? of the 'male gender', I will add.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:11 pm
That is to say, we have many who make decisions with an obsessive, myopic view to keeping themselves or their political party in power, and almost none who (regardless of their party) keep the interests of their countries in the forefront of their decision-making, and will make the sorts of tough, non-partisan choices that serve the true public interest.
1. Well that is just the RESULT of being brought up in a Truly GREEDY and SELFISH environment, EXACTLY like the one 'you', adult human beings, have created and still are creating in the days when this is being written.
2. Keep one's, laughable, OWN country in the forefront is WHY the 'world' is in such the MESS that 'it' OBVIOUSLY is in, in the days when this is being written.
'you', adult human beings, REALLY could NOT see that it was what 'you' WANTED and DESIRED WHY the YOUR 'world' was such a DISASTER. It is, SOLELY, BECAUSE of 'you', adult human beings, individually AND collectively. But, because 'you' have ALL been TOO ABUSED NONE of 'you' have LEARNED HOW to TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:11 pm
And maybe that exposes a limitation of open democracy: namely, that if the greater mass of the electorate becomes undiscriminating about to whom they will assent, about the people they permit to hold office, then the majority -- being willing to accept a very low standard, it seems -- can pull down the available pool of candidates to the lowest level, giving nobody else any decent choice.
Like, for example, when the 'male God created the whole Universe' BELIEVING sect of people permit "others" with this EXACT SAME MOST ABSURD BELIEF to 'hold office', and be willing to accept this MOST LOWEST OF STANDARD, then there is NO wonder the 'world' FAILED SO MUCH as 'it' OBVIOUSLY HAS and HAD.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:11 pm
But what's the alternative?
Absolute Honesty, Openness, and serious Want to CHANGE, (for the betterment of EVERY one, as One), that is WHAT the 'alternative' IS.
Elitism? Limiting the voter lists? A more vigorous republic? A renewal of public standards? It's a quandary, to be sure.
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LOL There is NO so-called 'quandary' AT ALL.
'you', adult human beings, were STILL just TO BLIND, TO CLOSED, and lacked True RESPONSIBILITY to FIND and SEE what thee ACTUAL SOLUTION IS, EXACTLY, back in the days when this was being written.