Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 7:00 pm
Wokism emphasizes diversity of appearance, culture and morals, but uniformity of thought. Conservatism (at least the centrist, classical liberal kind), emphasizes diversity of thought, because "free speech" and "freedom of conscience" are central to its program.
That might fly with young people, but I'm old enough to remember when political correctness was conservative. Not only was it dangerous and, yeah, incorrect to be gay, but any behavior that some people connected with gayness - like say, how you crossed your legs or didn't as a man or women - could lead to all sort of social, professional and even physical punishment from not only peers but teachers, cops, bosses...authority figures of any kind. Eccentricies of a wide variety could lead to similar kinds of punishment, though usually without the physical threat except in schools where conservative value trained eccentricities out of all but the most stubborn or brave people. I mean, the terror, rage and punishment inspired in conservatives about the length of men's hair....!? In a world where children are dying this could and did lead to violence.
Criticism of US policy was punished in schools per se. Bringing up things that were left out of textbooks that did not shine a great light on US policies and actions in the past were punished by most teachers. Yes, some teachers with other political or pedagogical persuasions were more open, but the rule was keep that shit out of your mouth or face the consequences.
The way conservatives related to women was its own form of political correctness. Women should have certain roles and not others, period, regardless of their skills and interests and the justification, when I was young included clearly false misestimates of what women were capable of. There are other reasons why conservatives don't want or often prefer women not to have certain roles, but included in their arguments and attitudes were false ideas about what women could do - and this affected their judgments, extremely effective ones in the work world - on a wide range of jobs with physical tasks and mental tasks that we now know were systematically and foolishly underestimated. Liberals and leftists were not remotely as close-minded or controlled by the hallucinations about what women are capable of.
Political correctness on the right allowed for things like the buying of the bs idiotic excuses for the second war in Iraq, a war against a man hated by Islamic extremists S. Hussein. Support the troops - who were put in harm's way by neocons - is a vastly more effective propaganda tool when used with conservatives. Protecting the troops by not sending them there, protecting the troops by having a healthy skepticism of the policies and words of warmongering conservative presidents, protecting the troops by bringing them immediately home is just off the table in the de facto political correctness of conservatives in comparison to other groups.
And a hellava lot more.
I am no fan of the current fanaticism of wokism.
That said conservatives have very poor memories, and conveniently, of what it was like when their political correctness was the political correctness.
It empowered viciousness and mind control and conformism throughout my childhood in what is considered by much of the middle of the country to be some leftist bastion city run by jews bent on world control. And we were taught again and again that diversity of opinion was not important, not a goal, evil, unpatriotic and always, somehow, in support of the commies.
Commie, fag, godless and other common conservative labels for ANYTHING going against their political correctness were unbelievably effective on adults also. And these categories of judgment affected government policy at many levels. It fucked the lives up of people on the ground.
It fucked up people's minds, souls, hearts, Immanuel Can
and from my experience of you
you simply cannot admit anything, which is so fucking familiar it is a odd kind of negative nostalgia for me.
The horrible thing is now we have two extreme political correctness ripping the hearts out of people, and yes, the Left one has the high ground right now, but it's NOT at all like the right these days is open to diverse opinion. They just correctly note that the left is not open and they think this makes them open. So much sour grapes confused with contrast.
So, little memory.
In thirty years when your on top again, suddenly your version of conformism and control will just be 'natural' and not some kind of political correctness.
Shit, you both hate the human soul.
We got two kinds of parasites. One loves to shame people. The other loves to guilt trip them.
Haters both and neither able to see in the funhouse mirror how much the other side is like themselves.
