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A government cannot be legitimate that grants itself the right to record anything it experiences, but denies that right to the people.
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I'm not sure what* if anything prompted this declaration, but I think it worth pointing out that "legitimacy" in the context of the ruling power is very much in the eye of the beholder.

Why should any government concern itself with satisfying your criteria for legitimacy or mine?


* Please elucidate if you think it will help, or if it matters in any other sense.
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A government meta:

The aristocracy's spirituality for trigger (a detail, of the lines of suspension from news media algebra's left-wing transcendence illegally comprising the means to walk from destination (Thomas Heath) to destination (Hayley Atwell) being adulthood's self-defeatism), is the government opponent, of the illegality of all escape is the hypocrisy of sharing, in which the opposed is a line as air matter hypothesis of sharing.

The government's weapon, to support the spirituality for trigger, is the cloning of spirituality (Thomas Heath's love for Hayley Atwell's biology imprint technology, of her Mission Impossible 7 Dead Reckoning apparatus) via the creation of emotion as means to help the weakness apparatus of sociology.

To combat this, there is the Rebecca Ferguson oversight, of the singularity belief in the real four horseman (left-wing transcendence/daylight as overseer/visual word power ideology and gravitation to body art) being the random as destiny story of celebrity reference as parody in disguise; to compound this dynamic, there is the universe as atom geography (not atomic geography) to emotion to page transition, of the universe's identity to emotion mythology of Vanessa Kirby



For Simon Pegg, and Sean Harris



(The distance of truth - a true dedication, to the aforementioned means to walk universal evil, by Peek-A-Boo/God, of her ambition to use her own weakness only after weakness of perfection has preceded her, is Michelle Monaghan's doppelganger weapon for Thomas Heath, in which Michelle's willingness to be outside the realm of distance as truth, as a way to frighten Thomas with the eternity of no alternation from her stare, is Americanism's stop gap)
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Advocate wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 2:18 pm A government cannot be legitimate that grants itself the right to record anything it experiences, but denies that right to the people.
Legitimate in which normative political framework?

Everything about society is emergent. Including the mode of legitimising governments.
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A government cannot be legitimate that grants itself the right to record anything it experiences, but denies that right to the people.
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Legitimate in which normative political framework?

Everything about society is emergent. Including the mode of legitimising governments.
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The word legitimate is legitimately a problem, because the OUGHT that's in it seems to not be in it in actual dictionary definitions, which all refer to acceptance by some hypothetical society or whatnot. I take it to mean at least not hypocritical, but that rules out nearly all systems currently accepted as legitimate by most people.
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Advocate wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 6:42 am The word legitimate is legitimately a problem, because the OUGHT that's in it seems to not be in it in actual dictionary definitions, which all refer to acceptance by some hypothetical society or whatnot. I take it to mean at least not hypocritical, but that rules out nearly all systems currently accepted as legitimate by most people.
You could frame the issue in terms of hypocrisy.
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Iwannaplato wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 12:41 pm You could frame the issue in terms of hypocrisy.
You could frame anything in terms of it being an issue too...

Perhaps framing is the issue?
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