Should NATO dismantle?

[Dontaskme]

NATO would be a good idea if it were not now an instrument of United State aggression. NATO now serves its master and in doing so puts the whole world in jepordy. America is an aggressive empire and pretends to itself that the fear it instills in the global community is respect. America is a war machine that today makes the monster war machine of Nazi Germany look like a boyscout troop. Don't think for a minute that this stand-off with Russia wasn't planned some time ago.

I agree pop, and thanks.

The real threat here is not Putin's threat...he's just trying to defend a threat that has always been from NATO

Nato doesn't give two craps about the Ukrainian innocents that are dying in this war because Nato cares only to fight with Russia, and are using the Ukraine as a battering ram. It's so obvious now, what's really going on, and has been slowly escalating for many years...check this out...https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2022 ... k-ukraine/

And thanks to Sculptor for your input, which I appreciate.

[Walker]

The violence is not real until the intention becomes kinetic and is actually happening in realtime...that is correct.

An announcement is not real until the announcement actually becomes a reality happening in realtime...in other words, the effect of the cause.

A cause is only known in it's effect.

No. That's not what you said. You said the violence is real when the threat is real, and this is true. This is why a threat of violence against an individual, is a real crime.

Putin's threat was real.

No one denies that. The question is to what degree was the persistence of NATO and it expansionist policy, especially over the last 30 years have continued to that, rather than actively moving to detante have continued as ever eastwards landgrab.

If you want the cause of the WAR - here it is in living colour..
https://preview.redd.it/l2lioe5aqnd81.j ... 1364aaea2d
NATO.JPG

NATO is a massive threat to Russia.

That doesn't explain genocide.

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When Putin Loved NATO
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/01/19/pu ... robertson/

[Dontaskme]

That doesn't explain genocide.

Maybe this does...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualtie ... e_Iraq_War

Nato attacked innocent men women and children, also taking out their entire infrastructure flattening it to a place lower than a worms titty.

All over some weapons of mass destruction they DID NOT have.

[Walker]

You're saying that Putin is committing genocide because of Iraq.

What is the reasoning?

[Walker]

“ Russia had arrived in the Western community of nations.

"And then it all ended. Not instantaneously, of course, but Russia’s war against Georgia in 2008 caused a rift with NATO.”

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/01/19/pu ... robertson/

[Dontaskme]

You're saying that Putin is committing genocide because of Iraq.

What is the reasoning?

Putin could have done what Nato did to Iraq..but he didn't..because he's one step ahead of NATO's intelligence, sorry, but that's just fact.

Nato is already fighting in Ukraine. ..supplying Ukraine with weapons...Ukraine is being used.

America is going down...hope you have prepped.

[Walker]

You're saying that Putin is committing genocide because of Iraq.

What is the reasoning?

Putin could have done what Nato did to Iraq..but he didn't..because he's one step ahead of NATO's intelligence, sorry, but that's just fact.

Nato is already fighting in Ukraine. ..supplying Ukraine with weapons...Ukraine is being used.

America is going down...hope you have prepped.

That doesn't answer the question.

Based on your postings, your opinions about America don't amount to a hill of beans.

[Dontaskme]

Based on your postings, your opinions about America don't amount to a hill of beans.

Nothing matters for those who live in comfort and peace...it's not until that comfort and peace is turned upside down on it's tushie ..does the proverbial matter hit the fan. . just wait, what goes around, comes around, even to your own doorstep.

The Crescendo is about to pop it's pop.

Man made war, result in man made carnage...a stupid dumb, zero intelligent game to play.

[trokanmariel]

I personally think it should. I think every single country and it's unique culture should be responsible for keeping it's own house in order and not interfere with other countries right to run their country as they wish according to their own original culture. I think each country should just respect, accept and embrace other countries cultures for what they are and leave them alone to live their lives how they collectively agree to live..

There does not have to be warring nations. Nations do not need to feel threatened by other nations.

"not interfere with other countries":

The reason, why I've highlighted this section, is because of the moral rhetoric science, which opposes the interaction as inevitable science.

What is interaction as inevitable science:

The word science, in this context, isn't part of the word inevitable. Instead, the semantic framework is interaction-as-inevitable, then science.

For my own part, IAI science is (emergency news: when a franchise-identity is created, from reality, a reality is able to be generated into a magic society universe - in this instance, it's the shop in Wolverhampton town centre in the West Midlands, which used to be an MVC shop, but then became a Poundland shop - for the orange-brown dog image, of the marketing displays) a universal moral force.


The nitty-gritty:
People communicate the moral rhetoric, of not interfering with other people's territories; the problem, is that like with so much other data units, the absence of proof bias isn't able to be logistically correct.

[Walker]

Nothing matters for those who live in comfort and peace...it's not until that comfort and peace is turned upside down on it's tushie ..does the proverbial matter hit the fan. . just wait, what goes around, comes around, even to your own doorstep.

Well for goodness sakes. How else is the US to make all those battery-powered cars, and make replacement batteries?

Unlike oil that turns the turbines that generates the electricity that goes into the batteries, batteries require elements found outside the US, not to mention mined outside the US. Can’t have mining and drilling on the pristine soil of America. Good Lord. That will cause the end of the world.

Haven’t you heard of climate change?

Duh.

[Dontaskme]

Well for goodness sakes. How else is the US to make all those battery-powered cars, and make replacement batteries?

Unlike oil that turns the turbines that generates the electricity that goes into the batteries, batteries require elements found outside the US, not to mention mined outside the US. Can’t have mining and drilling on the pristine soil of America. Good Lord. That will cause the end of the world.

Haven’t you heard of climate change?

Duh.

But this topic is about should NATO dismantle...please keep on topic.

Innocent people are dying horrible deaths, because of NATO

Millions of people are being displaced from what should be their security and comfort..because of NATO

[Walker]

It is on topic, but continuing to explain the alphabet to you is rather tedious, when I could be soaring through the universe ...

[Dontaskme]

It is on topic, but continuing to explain the alphabet to you is rather tedious, when I could be soaring through the universe ...

Do you honestly think that what is happening to the people of Ukraine will not come to your own doorstep...so yeah, just keep soaring on through the universe on your pink fluffy clouds, while some of us are being blown to pieces.

And thanks but no thanks, I already know what the alphabet is... I do not need an A hole to explain that to me, I wasn't born yesterday.

[Sculptor]

No. That's not what you said. You said the violence is real when the threat is real, and this is true. This is why a threat of violence against an individual, is a real crime.

Putin's threat was real.

No one denies that. The question is to what degree was the persistence of NATO and it expansionist policy, especially over the last 30 years have continued to that, rather than actively moving to detante have continued as ever eastwards landgrab.

If you want the cause of the WAR - here it is in living colour..
https://preview.redd.it/l2lioe5aqnd81.j ... 1364aaea2d
NATO.JPG

NATO is a massive threat to Russia.

That doesn't explain genocide.

Yo mean like Afghanistan, Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, Syria, Iraq, Libya, Grenada, Yemen, Sudan, Somalia, Lebanon ad nauseam.

Calling Russia's action in Ukraine is not genocide.
The wholesale slaughter of North American Indians - now THAT is genocide.
Get you terms right.

[Walker]

While Russia is committing genocide, do Russian bombers flying along the Ukraine border, bombers that drop nuclear bombs, constitute an actual threat?