pragmatic freedom of self-identity

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Advocate
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pragmatic freedom of self-identity

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By letting people choose their own demographic class and publishing related legal or socal metrics as they change, government can induce individual people to de-identify with problematic groups, thereby reducing it's strength/numbers as a class and it's relative importance.
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is choosing not to listen no longer an option?

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Advocate wrote: Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:06 pm By letting people choose their own demographic class and publishing related legal or socal metrics as they change, government can induce individual people to de-identify with problematic groups, thereby reducing it's strength/numbers as a class and it's relative importance.
no Germans cared about being a Nazi until it was advantageous to be associated to the Nazi party, then it became a real bad idea to be or be associated to the Nazis. first the is no nazi, then there is, then there is no nazi.
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Advocate wrote: Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:06 pm By letting people choose their own demographic class and publishing related legal or socal metrics as they change, government can induce individual people to de-identify with problematic groups, thereby reducing it's strength/numbers as a class and it's relative importance.
"By letting people choose their own demographic class": my interpretation, of this is the issue of categorization-politics.

Can people choose their categorization?

Say people choose to eliminate the term squatter, deserter, worker and striker (as in labour strike), would they have the freedom to do this?

The result, of such freedom, is the obligation to have everyone know each others names.
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Experience determines one's identity, just being in the world and its effects upon you is an identity growing process. To some degree what you thought and what you have done in the past determines what you can do and your choices in the future, if indeed there are choices. Engineering an identity is accomplished by context, the first being family or no family, at this stage of life the higher ideals or the lower are activated and the will is fortified or crushed. Governments attempt to program by appealing to the self-interest of the population identity and aligning it with the power base which is the governing power. In the west, it is still pretty much a colonial mindset. It is old knowledge that through this process monsters can be created which love their children and their dogs. If you watch the evening news to be informed but do not hear the voice of the global community you are being processed, and not for the better. Morality and autonomy are mutually exclusive you don't have freedom and you never will, its not even desirable on an individual level.
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