Putin's War Crimes

[Age]

Below are images of what life means to a dictator with a big ego and obviously a very very small penis..

Mariupol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariupol

Apparently, that's how you "de-nazify" a place, by killing everyone and everything in it. Hitler would be inspired.

Humans are sneaky pretentious do-gooder pieces of lying pond scum. They are dinosaurs wearing ball-gowns and tuxedos, strutting around on centre-stage as if they own the place. A rotting apple never falls far from the tree. Humans just need to stop denying their true raw and real nature. No living sentient creature except the human being puffs itself up with such enormous delusion of grandeur as the man-made self-centred belief that they are the special chosen golden child of god.

And 'you', "dontaskme", are just another one of those 'human beings', which you just described here.

So, WHY are 'you' a so-called "dinosaur wearing a ball-gown or tuxedo, strutting around like 'you' do?

WHY are 'you' a "sneaky pretentious do-gooder piece of lying pond scum"?

WHY are 'you' ABUSING the earth, the environment, and CHILDREN?

WHY are 'you' a "rotting apple"?

WHY do 'you' "DENY the True and REAL Nature of Life, Itself"?

WHY do 'you' "puff yourself" up with such enormous delusion of grandeur?

WHY do 'you' have such a "self-centered belief" that 'you', "dontaskme", are the special golden child"?

So, WHY are 'you', "dontaskme", ALL of these 'things?

WHEN, and IF, 'you' FINALLY work out WHY 'you', personally and collectively, like this, THEN 'you' will be a step closer to working out and UNCOVERING who and what thee REAL and True Self IS, EXACTLY.

The sense of self, being a pretentious and fake sense of 'otherness', is natures biggest flaw.

But this is only because the sense of 'self' that 'you' are referring to here is in relation to the 'human being' 'self'.

And, as 'I' keep telling and informing 'you' 'it' is NOT thee True Self.

Once one UNCOVERS who thee True Self IS, EXACTLY, then there is NO 'other'.

Where there is a ''sense of self'' there is some other thing to defend, and that defence will defend to the death, no matter how many 'other selves' it takes down with it.

The CONTRADICTION here is, literally, REFUTING ITS OWN SELF.

When one OBTAINS thee sense of thee True Self, then there is NO 'other' to defend from NOR fight against.

There are NO "other selves", which 'you', "dontaskme", keep SAYING and BELIEVING there IS. As PROVED True here ONCE AGAIN.

So goes the story of life on earth, the final battle is won when every man is dead. The only good man is a dead man.

So, when 'your' father died that was the ONLY time "he" was a good man, correct?

If yes, then well that EXPLAINS a LOT about WHY 'you' SEE 'things' the way you do.

"Only the dead have seen the end of war"

Of course the God makers will always swoon at the real raw truth.

And, OF COURSE, there will be people like 'you', 'dontaskme", who ONLY SEE 'things' from a VERY NARROWED and/or DISTORTED VIEW of 'things'.

There are people like 'you', "dontaskme", who do NOT want to LOOK AT and SEE what thee one and ONLY ACTUAL and IRREFUTABLE Truth IS, EXACTLY.

But the truth is the peace that passes all understanding, and the truth will set you free, the truth is unconditional love, which is always peaceful and harmless.

And then 'you' go and SAY the EXACT OPPOSITE of what 'you' have previously CLAIMED was "the truth".

[Age]

Does any of this matter, Age?

'you' were the one who brought this up, "gary childress".

LOOK, 'you' ALSO made a CLAIM. Either you can back up and support this CLAIM or you can NOT.

If you can NOT, then does it REALLY 'matter'?

Are you seriously that worried about what I think?

NO, I am NOT 'worried' AT ALL about those 'thoughts'. BUT, EVERY word in this forum IS what "someone" is 'thinking'.

Let it go. Just live and let live.

The WHOLE POINT of a 'philosophy forum', to some, is to EXPRESS 'one's' 'thoughts', AND either be ABLE to back up and support those 'thoughts' or be ABLE to be ABLE to be QUESTIONED and/or CHALLENGED about those 'thoughts'. So, I suggest that if you are NOT ABLE to do ANY of these, then this is NOT the 'place' for 'you', correct?

ALSO, TALK ABOUT a PRIME EXAMPLE of 'TRYING TO' RUN AWAY and DEFLECT from the CLAIM one made, but is Truly INCAPABLE of backing up and supporting 'that' CLAIM.

Now, IF your CLAIM was just ANOTHER so-called 'figure of speech' and you were being so-called 'sardonic' here AS WELL, then just SAY SO.

What have you got to lose by just being Honest?

Trying to endlessly "clarify" things on the internet is about as useless as spending all your money on chia pets.

I have NOTICED. 'you', posters here, REALLY do seem to STRUGGLE just to CLARIFY what 'it' IS, EXACTLY, that 'you' REALLY MEAN here.

For example, someone has SAID and CLAIMED that, personally, they; "hope Putin just pulls out of Ukraine as we did with Afghanistan and Iraq. It's not the ideal state of affairs but at least it would show a human side to him."

And, the one who SAID and CLAIMED 'this' is Truly UNABLE to just CLARIFY 'this'.

Don't worry about it, Age.

But i am NOT worried about ANY thing AT ALL.

I'm sure we're on the same side on this issue.

I KNOW 'we' ARE.

Give it a rest.

Is this in relation to EVERY one here, or just you?

Would you like when people SAY and CLAIM 'things' here, then I just 'let it be', no matter what is SAID or CLAIMED?

You're as draining as hell.

This is because when I REFUTE what 'you', human beings, SAY and CLAIM 'you' ALL TIRE TO QUICKLY 'trying to' fight and argue YOUR POSITION.

Or, there are some like 'you', "gary childress", who do NOT even 'try'. You just SEE what I SAY and CLAIM, through QUESTIONING or CHALLENGING IS IRREFUTABLE, so just LEAVE IT ALONE, but just 'try to' DEFLECT from 'IT'. Which, AGAIN, becomes just too 'draining' for you.

It is IMPOSSIBLE to DEFLECT from the WORDS, which are HERE in PRINT, for ALL to LOOK AT, DISCUSS, and SEE (thee Truth OF).

And this is WHY I keep suggesting that 'you', human beings, MAKE SURE that 'you' can back up and support YOUR BELIEFS and CLAIMS, BEFORE you make the BELIEF and CLAIM 'public', like in a forum like this one.

[Age]

"Why would Ukraine want to join NATO anyway? It must have known it would provoke him."

So who is behind all this?

What IS 'all this'?

What are you referring to, EXACTLY?

[Age]

"Why would Ukraine want to join NATO anyway? It must have known it would provoke him."

So who is behind all this?

1) Answer 1 Putin is evil. He's like Hitler and wants to expand.

"putin" is just a name or label given to one of MANY 'human beings'.

EVERY adult human being does things that are SEEN AS being 'evil', 'bad', or 'wrong', as well as things that are seen as being 'good' or 'right'.

The 'human being' known as "vladimir putin" is NO DIFFERENT in this regard.

It is just that some human beings are SEEN TO do MORE 'evil', MORE 'bad', or MORE 'wrong' than "others" DO.

BUT, then again, 'you', adult human beings, individually, do LOOK AT 'things' from a VERY SKEWED, DISTORTED, and JUDGMENTAL 'way'. And, so do NOT SEE 'things' for how they REALLY ARE.

'you', adult human beings, do NOT even 'try' to LOOK AT and SEE 'things' from "another's" PERSPECTIVE, which only ADDS TO the DISTORTED VIEWS 'you' ALREADY HAVE.

2)
There is no one thing or one person behind all this.

'Dishonesty'; is the ROOT CAUSE of ALL Wrong or 'evil' in the world.

'Child abuse'; is the SECOND CAUSE of 'all this' Wrong and evil.

'Greed/selfishness'; or 'love-of-money' is the THIRD ROOT of ALL the Wrong and evil, in the world.

And, it is ALL of 'you', adult human beings, in the days that this is being written WHO ARE;

Dishonest,

Were ABUSED

ABUSING now, and

Greedy and selfish.

They are the 'things' and the 'ones' BEHIND ALL of the Wrongs and evils in this world.

ALL of the ills of the word are and were CAUSED by these 'things' and these 'people'.

There are factors that can be traced way back to the end of WW2 and beyond.
If you want you can look at the psychology of Russia back to Napoleon's attempt at Moscow. The "west" has always been a big threat to Russia and that has been clear since Napoleon and Hitler.
The West has found a new way to advance Eastward and the is through economic imperialism rather than military.
Take the causality back to Glasnost and Perestroika. Gorbachez disbanded the Soviet Union and decided to adopt trade with the West. The question a Russian might ask is why did not NATO also disband? Even When Russia was negotiating nuclear disarmament especially those Ukrainian nukes - so why did NATO persist?
Take a look at EU and NATO expansionism since ww2
https://www.facebook.com/seven.kaboom.3 ... 4909171941
[NB if you can't watch it all skip to 5:40 and listen to Clare Daly}
I do no think it takes much imagination to see that the West remains a massive threat to Russia.
So who did this? Who allowed this to happen?
There is no plan, there is just one set of leaders after another motivated by the interests of their own parties - voters - backers.

It is, after all, 'you', adult human beings, who VOTE IN these "leaders" to take 'care of' SOLELY of what 'you' EACH BELIEVE is "yours". That is; 'you', adult human beings, VOTE IN 'people' who WILL FIGHT FOR and DEFEND those 'parcels of lands' within those RIDICULOUS 'border lines' drawn on maps.

Right now the war is looking GREAT for the US. The EU is buying more gas from the US and that is justifying more fracking. This is an environmental disaster waiting in the wings. But we can be sure that asking Cui Bono might allow us to figure out why the US is not that interested in peace talks.

[henry quirk]

What's wrong with accomplishing revolutionary tasks in self-abnegation every once in a while, tho?

Cogs of the world! Unite!

[Age]

"So who is behind all this?"

Karl Marx and Bernie Sanders. What the world needs is a solid fifty years of capitalism - even the fake mixed economy type would work - to correct all the problems communism has allowed the world to have.

That is it, create MORE GREEDY and SELFISH human beings, and this will create a 'better world', correct?

Clearly Putin and his oligarchs are goddamn Marxist revolutionaries, and it is communism that has allowed them to have and wield so much financial, political and military power in the first place.

How did the 'people', "at the top", of capitalist countries get to wield so much financial, political, and military power, in the first place?

If Russia was a capitalism instead of a goddamn communism, the opinions and values of the majority of the Russian working people that this attack on Ukraine is unjustified, would actually have political relevance and power.

But when "capitalist countries", like the one called "united states of america", goes into 'other countries' and BOMBS the hell out of them, while KILLING DEAD the woman and children in those countries, instead of the majority of the "american working people" thinking that this is 'unjustified' they actually BELIEVED, even when how Truly ABSURD this OBVIOUSLY is, that it was 'justified'.

So, people, through "capitalism", have OBVIOUSLY become MANIPULATED to BELIEVE what is Truly ABSURD and UNJUSTIFIABLE.

And, the people in those "capitalist countries" who KNOW 'war' and 'killing' is Wrong, which DEEP DOWN EVERY one DOES, had absolutely NO political relevance NOR power.

The current versions of 'capitalism', 'socialism', and 'communism' are ALL just PLAIN OLD Wrong and OUT DATED.

NONE of them WORK for the BETTERMENT of ALL. And, they each create an 'us' verse 'them' attitude and society, while also creating a 'rich' verse 'poor' DIVIDE.

There'd be a genuinely democratic decision to invade or not.

Do you REALLY want to SAY and CLAIM that the INVASION, and KILLING DEAD of absolutely INNOCENT 'human beings', in countries like "vietnam", "iraq", and "afghanistan", to name but just a few, was perfectly all right, because it was a so-called "genuinely democratic decision"?

If yes, then 'you' are only arguing AGAINST 'capitalism' here.

The whole goddamn country would decide this... not a handful of industrialists and gangsters.

Since when have ALL the people of a country come to the EXACT SAME DECISION?

Did the so-called "whole goddam country" DECIDE to INVADE and KILL human lives in countries like "vietnam", "iraq", and/or "afghanistan"?

If you BELIEVE or SAY, "Yes", then I think you might find that you are absolutely Wrong.

[Age]

See Plato has got you all fucked up.

FAR MORE people that just that one person have got ALL of 'you', adult human beings, so-called "fucked up".

In fact only the Truly IMMATURE would BLAME someone ELSE for the way 'you' are ALL now, when this was being written.

That bit in the ship of state about the talent and character of the ruler type has led you to believe 'governing' is a specialized skill that only an aristocrat can have.

When those VERY OLD ways of living, through "communism" or "capitalism", for example, have ENDED and REPLACED with the a MUCH BETTER way, then EXACTLY HOW 'governing', from thee Truly so-called 'aristocratic' One who it is BEST to LISTEN TO and ADHERE TO, CAN BE and WILL BE 'followed'. Which, in turn, brings about the 'world' in which EVERY one WANTS to live in anyway.

This NEW WAY of living WILL BE and IS just a 'Self-governing society'.

But, in the days when this was being written, 'you', adult human beings, are still a LONG WAY of LEARNING and DISCOVERING 'this way'.

Bazooka Henry alludes to this old sentiment with his aversion to what he called 'mob rule'. He's thinking of society in terms of a platonic ship. But society isn't a ship. Sa'bad metaphor. Society is an open process of the exchange of things and ideas between people. This activity itself is a governing activity and becomes naturally democratic and more informed over time through a massive distribution of decision making power.

VERY True. WHEN EVERY one is EQUAL and just SHARING their VIEWS/IDEAS, THEN what is thee ACTUAL Right and True VIEW can be LOOKED AT, as well as being SEEN.

If there IS to be law and public policy - and no real anarchy could exist on the scale of a country, much less the world, so there will be - those laws and policies should be actively changing and accessible to as many people as possible in a direct form; less delegates, more immediate representation, the individual as legislator. And this can be done with today's digital communications.

There is ONLY one so-called 'rule', A 'lore', which is NEEDED for EVERY one to live Truly peacefully TOGETHER.

And, 'it' is the SAME One that EVERY one AGREES WITH and ACCEPTS, unanimously and just WANTS to follow voluntarily ANYWAY.

Fortunately the best ideas, or at least the ideas representative of the majority of people, will emerge out of the open discourse between people about the subject. A kind of survival of the fittest of ideas happens, and the most rational, most effective, decisions are made. The whole autopoietic organism governs and corrects itself like a Wikipedia article.

'That' view or idea, which EVERY one individually HAS, and which is AGREED UPON by EVERY one anyway, is what leads to THE 'Self-governing society'.

But why would it matter 'who' made laws that you don't agree with? If you never wanted law Y to pass, but it did because a) twenty or so law makers passed it, or b) a majority of citizens voted for it, would it make any difference that a 'mob' rather than a few platonic philosopher kings, is/are who passed it?

Plato created a false dichotomy when he taught that ruling was an earned privilege, and that not everyone, not the entirety of the ruled, in other words, could do it. He basically just said that you are not smaht enough to rule yourself.

Had ANY one YET, hitherto when this was being written, said 'things' that were IRREFUTABLY True, Right, AND Correct?

if no, then WHY does it seem you were expecting the human being named or labeled "plato" was somehow EXPECT to?

Has EVERY 'thing' 'you' have SAID "promethean75" NOT been False, Wrong, or Incorrect in SOME WAY?

If 'you' have EXPRESSED views or ideas that have NOT been True, Right, or Correct, then WHY seem so surprised that "another" has done the EXACT SAME?

Are you under some sort of ILLUSION that NO one, forever more, will ever FIND and SEE a 'false dichotomy' in what you say and try and teach here?

But this is not an existential problem when laws are still passed that you don't agree with.

If a man wants your bazooka, does it matter whether he's a genius or an imbecile?

[Age]

Bazooka Henry alludes to this old sentiment with his aversion to what he called 'mob rule'. He's thinking of society in terms of a platonic ship.

Nope, commie. I'm thinkin' of The State (government) as the instrument of busy-bodies, buttinskies, and slavers...you know, folks like you.

Mob rule, and its oh-so refined sibling, democracy, is just an iteration of The State.

Society is just you and me and him and her not killin', stealin' from or slavin' one another.

So, what is going to STOP 'you', "henry quirk", from KILLING "others"?

It is, after all, YOU who HAS and OWNS 'the gun'.

What is 'the gun' FOR, if NOT to KILL "others"?

If a man wants your bazooka, does it matter whether he's a genius or an imbecile?

Nope. A thief is a thief.

What does OWNING a weapon, which was purposely made, and created, TO KILL, make the OWNER?

[Age]

We should all be hoping that the universe isn't conscious.

But 'It IS', or more correctly, 'I AM'.

Humans have fucked up so badly that earth would have to feel like an infuriating itch, or an incessant buzzing midge or mosquito that you just want to swat. We don't want to get swatted by the universe once and for all...

The 'earth', itself, is PERFECTLY FINE, exactly how 'it' IS.

'Human beings', as a collective, are "themselves, also PERFECTLY FINE.

It is ONLY 'you', adult human beings, who have so-called "fucked up" SO BADLY, and who ARE STILL "fucking up" SO BADLY.

The ONLY 'thing' that 'I' AM GOING TO so-call "swat" is just 'you', adult human beings.

But, 'I' do this in My time, and WHEN 'I' AM READY.

[Age]

"you know, folks like you."

Lies. Nothing but lies. Nobody hates 'the man' more than me.

So, WHY do 'you' HATE "your" 'self' SO MUCH?

If I have any credit at all, it's bad credit. I've got upwards of twenty grand in outstanding medical bills they're turning over to collection agencies. I've filed taxes once in over twenty years, and that was just to get the stimulus checks. I owe SunTrust a hunerd I ain't given em; the nerve to charge me thirty-fi dollars two days in a row for an accidental overdraw of fifteen dollars that the app didn't inform me of because it was glitched the fuck out. I'ont have no 401 k plan and I've never collected a cent of government aid with the exception of briefly owning a foodstamp card when I wuz trying to eat for free while living at the beach with homegirl.

I'm not a theoretical anarchist. I got a record longer than Al Capone's. I live in either complete disregard and ambivilance for the law... its uselessness to me, or in direct/indirect opposition to the law by virtue of its major negative interference in my life.

Im'da last nigga who'd want to drive slaves and tell uther niggas what to do.

It's the image of what you think Marxism is, in your head, that effects your perception of what you associate with it when you think you see something Marxist.

This condition effects millions of people daily, so don't feel abnormal.

It's really rather simple. If you have to have 'laws' in society - and you do,

But 'you' DO NOT.

This is just a MISPERCEPTION that 'you', adult human beings, have come to BELIEVE is true.

obviously - the question you should be axing is how much of an impression does the opinion of the typical citizen make on the decision to have or not have that law. I mean if yer shootin for a real democracy, obviously.

What do the words "the typical citizen" even MEAN, or REFER TO, EXACTLY?

And, Real 'democracy', depending, of course, on how the word 'democracy' is being defined here, but if 'we' are going to use this word from the "ancient greek" words, then Real 'democracy' is dependent upon or reliant upon EVERY one.

It's because political systems have been so traditionally hierarchical that people think those systems are the only possible systems that can work.

For example, some people have come to BELIEVE or SEE that the best or only possible system is the 'capitalist system', for example.

Look at how little people actually 'vote' on anything. What, once or twice a year, max. And yet so many decisions about what one is to do individually and as part of a larger 'commoonity' (shout out to Ben Crump, an OG), are made regarding one, but without one's consent, or even knowledge thereof.

Well it is 'you', adult human beings, who VOTE IN "others" to do 'your' WORK for you.

People are captives of their own State because they have been deprived of the privilege to exercise some authority over a wider range of the decision making that effects them.

And, WHEN 'you' WORK OUT WHY 'you' have given so much POWER to "another", then 'you' WILL SEE how to CHANGE and TURN 'things' AROUND.

The paradox is here; to eliminate government you have to extend it indefinitely into the lives of all individuals. You decentralize all power centers and distribute that power to the working, tax paying citizens

WHY ONLY 'these people'? And,

WHAT has 'money' even got to do with ANY thing here?

After all it was the love-of-money that has CAUSED and CREATED a LOT of the ISSUES that 'you', human beings, have found "yourselves" IN, in the days when this is being written.

who are called upon to organize and govern, yea... and this forces them to acclimatize to new responsibility and interests, and they pay attention... and they become smahter as a result.

Giving 'power' to 'people' does NOT necessarily make them smarter AT ALL.

Just LOOK AT the so-called "leaders" of countries, who have been GIVEN 'power'.

GIVING these people 'new responsibilities', 'interests, and/or 'more power' has CERTAINLY NOT necessarily made them ANY smarter AT ALL.

By the way why do you write the "smarter" word the way you do? Do you purposely write 'it' the way you do, or is it just a coincidence that you have spelled 'it' the same way at least twice?

Survival of the fittest of the ideas.

The words, 'survival of the fittest', once used to refer to 'that', which FITTED IN THE BEST.

So, the ideas that DO FIT IN with EVERY one/thing ELSE PERFECTLY, or the BEST, then WILL, naturally, SURVIVE.

[Age]

Putin's popularity prior to the annexing Crimea was at an all time low - afterwards - yep - Russian muppets loved him.

Guess he knows what makes him popular among the dumb ex slaves (slavs)...nothing like a war to get stupid people to get all nationalist and behind their great leader.

It works in good-ole "united states of america" so WHY NOT in "russia"?

[vegetariantaxidermy]

We should all be hoping that the universe isn't conscious.

But 'It IS', or more correctly, 'I AM'.

Humans have fucked up so badly that earth would have to feel like an infuriating itch, or an incessant buzzing midge or mosquito that you just want to swat. We don't want to get swatted by the universe once and for all...

The 'earth', itself, is PERFECTLY FINE, exactly how 'it' IS.

'Human beings', as a collective, are "themselves, also PERFECTLY FINE.

It is ONLY 'you', adult human beings, who have so-called "fucked up" SO BADLY, and who ARE STILL "fucking up" SO BADLY.

The ONLY 'thing' that 'I' AM GOING TO so-call "swat" is just 'you', adult human beings.

But, 'I' do this in My time, and WHEN 'I' AM READY.

Not my point. Stop thinking so small...

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Putin's popularity prior to the annexing Crimea was at an all time low - afterwards - yep - Russian muppets loved him.

Guess he knows what makes him popular among the dumb ex slaves (slavs)...nothing like a war to get stupid people to get all nationalist and behind their great leader.

It works in good-ole "united states of america" so WHY NOT in "russia"?

Touche...

[henry quirk]

So, what is going to STOP 'you', "henry quirk", from KILLING "others"?

Me.

It is, after all, YOU who HAS and OWNS 'the gun'.

Along side millions of other gun owners & users.

What is 'the gun' FOR, if NOT to KILL "others"?

It is a killin' machine...yep...you got that right...to date: I've killed birds, coyotes, rabbits, deer, feral dogs, and wild pigs with mine. Tomorrow? We'll see.

What does OWNING a weapon, which was purposely made, and created, TO KILL, make the OWNER?

Depends on the owner, doesn't it?

[reasonvemotion]

The world has to look through the bigger picture and just put it into perspective. 

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:

"Why would Ukraine want to join NATO anyway? It must have known it would provoke him."

It makes no obvious sense, but certainly stirs one's reasoning.

This is a global game where people are being lied to and secrecy is of the utmost importance.

It is chaos created for a specific reason and that is to get the mindset and control of the people. 

It is called New World Order.