Should we stop using war as population culling of our young people?

[Greatest I am]

So: do nuthin', that's your stance, yeah?

Not at all.

I think the old should replace the young on the front lines, and help resolve the problems the we old created, and now wish to have our young die to resolve.

Yahweh did not step up.

That p**** shows us what not to do.

Regards
DL

[Impenitent]

In terms of renewal: --- What is the best natural end?

The young growing to reproduce, or the new generations being destroyed by the existing generation that no longer reproduces?

Regards
DL

the best one happens naturally...

-Imp

Correct.

Ours is unnatural.

That is why we should stop doing the stupid and immoral thing, and try to mimic our own natural ways.

Regards
DL

yet it is in human nature to make and use tools... the ends of tools are not necessarily in themselves...

-Imp

[henry quirk]

I think the old should replace the young on the front lines, and help resolve the problems the we old created, and now wish to have our young die to resolve.

But, as you say...

You do not see governments and our oligarch owners fearing us, do you?

...and who makes up the bulk of these folks who do not fear us?

Old people.

So: how are we supposed to get folks who look down on us, who don't listen to us, to put themselves, or folks like themselves, on the front line?

[Greatest I am]

the best one happens naturally...

-Imp

Correct.

Ours is unnatural.

That is why we should stop doing the stupid and immoral thing, and try to mimic our own natural ways.

Regards
DL

yet it is in human nature to make and use tools... the ends of tools are not necessarily in themselves...

-Imp

??

Moral thinking was at issue, not tools, unless you include ideology as a tool.

Regards
DL

[Greatest I am]

I think the old should replace the young on the front lines, and help resolve the problems the we old created, and now wish to have our young die to resolve.

But, as you say...

You do not see governments and our oligarch owners fearing us, do you?

...and who makes up the bulk of these folks who do not fear us?

Old people.

So: how are we supposed to get folks who look down on us, who don't listen to us, to put themselves, or folks like themselves, on the front line?

Do they not have legs and a gun?

Nothing else is required other than proximity to the fighting.

Regards
DL

[henry quirk]

I think the old should replace the young on the front lines, and help resolve the problems the we old created, and now wish to have our young die to resolve.

how are we supposed to get folks who look down on us, who don't listen to us, to put themselves, or folks like themselves, on the front line?

Do they not have legs and a gun?

Nothing else is required other than proximity to the fighting.

Regards
DL

And how do you make them -- these unfearing oligarchs and non-listening oldsters -- go, to be in proximity to the fighting?

[Greatest I am]

how are we supposed to get folks who look down on us, who don't listen to us, to put themselves, or folks like themselves, on the front line?

Do they not have legs and a gun?

Nothing else is required other than proximity to the fighting.

Regards
DL

And how do you make them -- these unfearing oligarchs and non-listening oldsters -- go, to be in proximity to the fighting?

I cannot force anyone to do anything.

All I can do is point to the right way to live and die.

Regards
DL

[henry quirk]

I cannot force anyone to do anything.

All I can do is point to the right way to live and die.

Regards
DL

So, like I said, your position is...

do nuthin'

[Impenitent]

Correct.

Ours is unnatural.

That is why we should stop doing the stupid and immoral thing, and try to mimic our own natural ways.

Regards
DL

yet it is in human nature to make and use tools... the ends of tools are not necessarily in themselves...

-Imp

??

Moral thinking was at issue, not tools, unless you include ideology as a tool.

Regards
DL

ideology as a tool? a priest would never use ideology like that... no politician would either...

wait...

-Imp

[Greatest I am]

Thanks all.

Regards
DL