THought for the Day: Nuclear Deterent

[Sculptor]

In other words Trump has told he friend Putin, now would be a good time to embarrass Biden.

Right, more sensible to take Ukraine when your butt boy isn't in office to run interference for you. No, wait till someone who isn't your butt boy has the Big Chair...so you can embarrass them.

That's your story?

It no more stupid than your story

[henry quirk]

In other words Trump has told he friend Putin, now would be a good time to embarrass Biden.

Right, more sensible to take Ukraine when your butt boy isn't in office to run interference for you. No, wait till someone who isn't your butt boy has the Big Chair...so you can embarrass them.

That's your story?

It no more stupid than your story

Well let's weigh the stupid...

You say Trump was Putin's lil ORANGE cheerleader but can't explain why Putin didn't do diddly for the 4 years his lil ORANGE cheerleader coulda run interference for him. Further, you say Trump gave Putin the go-ahead simply to embarrass Biden.

I say ORANGE MAN, our sociopath, countered the KBG Agent for 4 years. Further, I say Smokin' Joe, the House Plant, Biden, attemptin' to wag the dog, essentially challenged Putin to invade Ukraine, and Putin obliged (knowin' no one would stop him...which they haven't).

[Sculptor]

Right, more sensible to take Ukraine when your butt boy isn't in office to run interference for you. No, wait till someone who isn't your butt boy has the Big Chair...so you can embarrass them.

That's your story?

It no more stupid than your story

Well let's weigh the stupid...

You say Trump was Putin's lil ORANGE cheerleader but can't explain why Putin didn't do diddly for the 4 years his lil ORANGE cheerleader coulda run interference for him. Further, you say Trump gave Putin the go-ahead simply to embarrass Biden.

You are not thinking this through are you. Trump was too busy swalowing bear cum, and did not want Putin to embarass him, so he asked him to wait uhtil uncle joe was at the helm so joe could look stupid.
Obvious really

I say ORANGE MAN, our sociopath, countered the KBG Agent for 4 years.

Countered his cock up his arse exchanging precious bodily fluids, and paying off his debt for Putins help in the election victory

[promethean75]

R u saying bank accounts and back room deals transcend national interests?

[henry quirk]

fever dreams

I hear cold showers help.

[Sculptor]

fever dreams

I hear cold showers help.

You seem to have conceded the argument

[henry quirk]

fever dreams

I hear cold showers help.

You seem to have conceded the argument

Nope. As soon as you've exhausted your sex fantasies we can get back to it, but not before.

[Sculptor]

I hear cold showers help.

You seem to have conceded the argument

Nope. As soon as you've exhausted your sex fantasies we can get back to it, but not before.

QED

[Gary Childress]

What about the ethnic Russians living as Ukrainians that the Ukrainian deth squad have been killing since 2014?
Why have you never spared a thought for them? Is it because your media never bothered to mention the separatists war that led to this current situation?
Why did the Ukraine not follow the Minsk accords?

Ukraine and Russia are both behaving like arses. But why would they take advice from the USA which is the biggest arse of them all. DO you want the list of countries ruined by American aggression since WW2?

I haven't heard anything about Ukrainian death squads killing Russians. Is that coming from Russian media sources?

You haven't heard?
Since the west backed coup(2014) ethnic russians in Ukraine have been trying to separate from the country - you know that?

OK. So where is this "genocide" occurring? And does killing thousands of Ukrainians in an invasion make it any better or more righteous than the US invading Iraq on the pretense that Saddam Hussein was a monster to certain groups of people under his sovereignty?

[Dontaskme]

And does killing thousands of Ukrainians in an invasion make it any better or more righteous than the US invading Iraq on the pretense that Saddam Hussein was a monster to certain groups of people under his sovereignty?

The two main nuclear armed superpower countries can do whatever they like to other less equipped countries.

I'm talking about committing acts of evil terror upon human beings. The reign of any terror inflicted upon others is allowed to happen. Why is that? it's because two superpowers at war runs parallel to a bank robber armed with a Kalashnikov, the plan to rob the bank would be allowed to happen because who could stop the terror spree from happening?

The robbers/terrorists are able to seize their operation with little or no resistance, as no one caught up in the melee would ever dare to resist the dire situation, any attempt to resist while having a Kalashnikov pointing at their face would be foolish.

That's the situation we are in when two nuclear armed superpower nations face each other off.... it's the one's caught in the middle that are the helpless ones.

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[Sculptor]

I haven't heard anything about Ukrainian death squads killing Russians. Is that coming from Russian media sources?

You haven't heard?
Since the west backed coup(2014) ethnic russians in Ukraine have been trying to separate from the country - you know that?

OK. So where is this "genocide" occurring? And does killing thousands of Ukrainians in an invasion make it any better or more righteous than the US invading Iraq on the pretense that Saddam Hussein was a monster to certain groups of people under his sovereignty?

I did not use the word genocide.
I am just indicating some of the causa bellum for the current situation.
The US invasion of Iraq had fuck all to do with any monstrous activities, as you might want to ask why the US has not also invaded so many other countries in the world who are their friends. The US was quite able and happy to fund Saddam's war with Iran for nine years and causing the deaths of over a million people when it suited them.

I'm not taking sides; I am pointing out hypocrisy.

[jayjacobus]

Every warmonger has that mindset. Everyone who fights in a war believes they are fighting and "dying," for their country, and so long as everyone in the world believes that anything is more important than their own life--their country, their God, their ideology, or anything else, and are willing to risk or sacrifice their own life for the sake of it, there will be wars. If everyone in the world refused to risk their own life for the sake of anything that was of direct interest or value to their own life, there would be no wars. Individuals do not start wars, only governments do, and the bigger the government, the more warlike they become.

Ukrainians are fighting against tyranny. They are fighting for freedom which all Ukrainians want.

The Russian soldiers are fighting for their warmongers who sit in Moscow and don't want to sacrifice their own lives.

I found this on another board.
I think you might educate yourself by reading it.

One of the consequences of 98% only reading the first sentence on anything is vast miscontruals of Putin's motives. Endless reams of total garbage about his 'evil soul' are now appearing when he has done nothing worse then Bush II invading Ukraine.

First off, Putin has no intention of bombing all the reservoirs and power plants to reduce the nation to a virtual stone age for over a decade, like the USA did to the Iraqis. He has no intention of making 6 million people die of typhoid etc due to lack of water and power, like the USA did to the Iraqis. But you will find a lot of people in the USA now loudly clamoring about Putin's evil, who only 17 years ago loudly clamored for the unjustified invasion of Iraq on totally trumped up false accusations.

For that reason, amongst many others in a long history of US hypocrisys, Putin's not really that after the Ukriaine. He's after uns. I can only admire his superb timing. He could have done this at any time for the last 30 years, but he saved it for this moment. Exactly when the USA hit its lowest unemployment in 50 years, highest information in 70 years, and absolutely zero wiggle room on fed interest rates, he hit the USA with a worldwide oil shortage. Also as Ukraine is a major breadbasket, he is pushing food prices up. And as a result of sanctions, US exports are going to suffer. But most people will be too busy gawking at the TV to realize he just started a major recession in the USA.

Putin has by this superb act of timing made it virtually impossible for Biden to beat one of the Trump family from putting the whole lot back in the White House in 2024. They will withdraw from the Paris Accord again to increase immediate profit. When the Arctic Ice entirely melts away starting a mere three years after his second term, 2035-2045, we now know it will not only affect ocean currents that currently reverse back to the Caribbean by Greenland, and back to Peru from Alaska, but will instead go around the top of Canada, killing all fish and causing the death or virtually everything on every single American coast. We now know it will also change all the jetstreams, making life entirely uninhabitable anywhere in the USA. Of course that won't be until about 2050, so it wont be Trump's fault.

Russia on the other hand is only nation in the world which really benefits from global warming. It has no major cities at sea level and lots of landlocked freezing land. Nothing could please it more than another Trump, and unlike democracies, Russia can afford to wait and take the long term view on its eventual world domination.

You can be educated by opinions but I am educated by facts.

[jayjacobus]

What about the ethnic Russians living as Ukrainians that the Ukrainian deth squad have been killing since 2014?
Why have you never spared a thought for them? Is it because your media never bothered to mention the separatists war that led to this current situation?
Why did the Ukraine not follow the Minsk accords?

Ukraine and Russia are both behaving like arses. But why would they take advice from the USA which is the biggest arse of them all. DO you want the list of countries ruined by American aggression since WW2?

The countries that were damaged by our military attacks were not destroyed. Once we left, they recovered and some recovered extremely well.

Words of complete ignorance.
Loas never had a formal declaration of war, but the US dropped more bombs on Laos that was dropped by all countries on all countries during WW2.
Despite a pityful effort at reparations people, mostly children are still to this day getting injured and maimed by unexploded bombs.
But I guess you have never heard of Laos?

Our economic power was not used for aggression. It built up economies around the world. It did not ruin economies.

You are desperately ignorant.
What has happened to Afghanistan?

You are desperate. That's why you sling barbs rather than present a logical argument.

[Sculptor]

The countries that were damaged by our military attacks were not destroyed. Once we left, they recovered and some recovered extremely well.

Words of complete ignorance.
Loas never had a formal declaration of war, but the US dropped more bombs on Laos that was dropped by all countries on all countries during WW2.
Despite a pityful effort at reparations people, mostly children are still to this day getting injured and maimed by unexploded bombs.
But I guess you have never heard of Laos?

Our economic power was not used for aggression. It built up economies around the world. It did not ruin economies.

You are desperately ignorant.
What has happened to Afghanistan?

You are desperate. That's why you sling barbs rather than present a logical argument.

Thank you for your two comments.
It seems to me that you are not too bright. For that it is forgivable.
But to be ignorant of the most basic facts of political realities is less so.

[Sculptor]

Ukrainians are fighting against tyranny. They are fighting for freedom which all Ukrainians want.

The Russian soldiers are fighting for their warmongers who sit in Moscow and don't want to sacrifice their own lives.

I found this on another board.
I think you might educate yourself by reading it.

One of the consequences of 98% only reading the first sentence on anything is vast miscontruals of Putin's motives. Endless reams of total garbage about his 'evil soul' are now appearing when he has done nothing worse then Bush II invading Ukraine.

First off, Putin has no intention of bombing all the reservoirs and power plants to reduce the nation to a virtual stone age for over a decade, like the USA did to the Iraqis. He has no intention of making 6 million people die of typhoid etc due to lack of water and power, like the USA did to the Iraqis. But you will find a lot of people in the USA now loudly clamoring about Putin's evil, who only 17 years ago loudly clamored for the unjustified invasion of Iraq on totally trumped up false accusations.

For that reason, amongst many others in a long history of US hypocrisys, Putin's not really that after the Ukriaine. He's after uns. I can only admire his superb timing. He could have done this at any time for the last 30 years, but he saved it for this moment. Exactly when the USA hit its lowest unemployment in 50 years, highest information in 70 years, and absolutely zero wiggle room on fed interest rates, he hit the USA with a worldwide oil shortage. Also as Ukraine is a major breadbasket, he is pushing food prices up. And as a result of sanctions, US exports are going to suffer. But most people will be too busy gawking at the TV to realize he just started a major recession in the USA.

Putin has by this superb act of timing made it virtually impossible for Biden to beat one of the Trump family from putting the whole lot back in the White House in 2024. They will withdraw from the Paris Accord again to increase immediate profit. When the Arctic Ice entirely melts away starting a mere three years after his second term, 2035-2045, we now know it will not only affect ocean currents that currently reverse back to the Caribbean by Greenland, and back to Peru from Alaska, but will instead go around the top of Canada, killing all fish and causing the death or virtually everything on every single American coast. We now know it will also change all the jetstreams, making life entirely uninhabitable anywhere in the USA. Of course that won't be until about 2050, so it wont be Trump's fault.

Russia on the other hand is only nation in the world which really benefits from global warming. It has no major cities at sea level and lots of landlocked freezing land. Nothing could please it more than another Trump, and unlike democracies, Russia can afford to wait and take the long term view on its eventual world domination.

You can be educated by opinions but I am educated by facts.

Do you mean the "facts" about the plight of Laos about which you are utterly ignorant?