THought for the Day: Nuclear Deterent

[Sculptor]

whilst there remains the potential for leaders like Trump to be elected that tragedy is almost certain at some point

Let me get this straight: Biden, in only his second year, resurrects the possibility of Atomic Death, but Trump is the threat?

Biden has not resurrected the possibility of Atomic Death. Maybe of Trump were not a girly cheerleader and bum-boy for his buddy Putin we'd not be in this mess right now?
The Orange Baby Man will aways be a threat whilst there is Fox News and his cheerleaders willing to overthrow democracy in thier own country.

[Sculptor]

I don't think there's anything any sane person can do about Russia invading Ukraine other than the economic sanctions that are being put into place.

Exactly how is the so-called invasion of the Ukraine by Russia anyone else's business except the Ukranians and Russians? What's it to you?

I understand why all the war-mongers want to stick their hateful noses in everyone else's business, but not anyone who is a rational, decent, productive individual.

Because Ukrainians are dying for their country against a foreign invader.

What about the ethnic Russians living as Ukrainians that the Ukrainian deth squad have been killing since 2014?
Why have you never spared a thought for them? Is it because your media never bothered to mention the separatists war that led to this current situation?
Why did the Ukraine not follow the Minsk accords?

It takes a village (an international one) to keep the peace. International opinion will decide things in the end. Any country that wishes to behave like an asshole has the same things happen to it as any person who wishes to behave like an asshole. In the end, karma is real. I'm convinced of it.

Ukraine and Russia are both behaving like arses. But why would they take advice from the USA which is the biggest arse of them all. DO you want the list of countries ruined by American aggression since WW2?

[Gary Childress]

Exactly how is the so-called invasion of the Ukraine by Russia anyone else's business except the Ukranians and Russians? What's it to you?

I understand why all the war-mongers want to stick their hateful noses in everyone else's business, but not anyone who is a rational, decent, productive individual.

Because Ukrainians are dying for their country against a foreign invader.

What about the ethnic Russians living as Ukrainians that the Ukrainian deth squad have been killing since 2014?
Why have you never spared a thought for them? Is it because your media never bothered to mention the separatists war that led to this current situation?
Why did the Ukraine not follow the Minsk accords?

It takes a village (an international one) to keep the peace. International opinion will decide things in the end. Any country that wishes to behave like an asshole has the same things happen to it as any person who wishes to behave like an asshole. In the end, karma is real. I'm convinced of it.

Ukraine and Russia are both behaving like arses. But why would they take advice from the USA which is the biggest arse of them all. DO you want the list of countries ruined by American aggression since WW2?

I haven't heard anything about Ukrainian death squads killing Russians. Is that coming from Russian media sources?

[jayjacobus]

Exactly how is the so-called invasion of the Ukraine by Russia anyone else's business except the Ukranians and Russians? What's it to you?

I understand why all the war-mongers want to stick their hateful noses in everyone else's business, but not anyone who is a rational, decent, productive individual.

Because Ukrainians are dying for their country against a foreign invader.

What about the ethnic Russians living as Ukrainians that the Ukrainian deth squad have been killing since 2014?
Why have you never spared a thought for them? Is it because your media never bothered to mention the separatists war that led to this current situation?
Why did the Ukraine not follow the Minsk accords?

It takes a village (an international one) to keep the peace. International opinion will decide things in the end. Any country that wishes to behave like an asshole has the same things happen to it as any person who wishes to behave like an asshole. In the end, karma is real. I'm convinced of it.

Ukraine and Russia are both behaving like arses. But why would they take advice from the USA which is the biggest arse of them all. DO you want the list of countries ruined by American aggression since WW2?

The countries that were damaged by our military attacks were not destroyed. Once we left, they recovered and some recovered extremely well.

Our economic power was not used for aggression. It built up economies around the world. It did not ruin economies.

[RCSaunders]

Because Ukrainians are dying for their country ....

Every warmonger has that mindset. Everyone who fights in a war believes they are fighting and "dying," for their country, and so long as everyone in the world believes that anything is more important than their own life--their country, their God, their ideology, or anything else, and are willing to risk or sacrifice their own life for the sake of it, there will be wars. If everyone in the world refused to risk their own life for the sake of anything that was not of direct interest or value to their own life, there would be no wars. Individuals do not start wars, only governments do, and the bigger the government, the more warlike they become.

[jayjacobus]

Because Ukrainians are dying for their country ....

Every warmonger has that mindset. Everyone who fights in a war believes they are fighting and "dying," for their country, and so long as everyone in the world believes that anything is more important than their own life--their country, their God, their ideology, or anything else, and are willing to risk or sacrifice their own life for the sake of it, there will be wars. If everyone in the world refused to risk their own life for the sake of anything that was of direct interest or value to their own life, there would be no wars. Individuals do not start wars, only governments do, and the bigger the government, the more warlike they become.

Ukrainians are fighting against tyranny. They are fighting for freedom which all Ukrainians want.

The Russian soldiers are fighting for their warmongers who sit in Moscow and don't want to sacrifice their own lives.

[RCSaunders]

Because Ukrainians are dying for their country ....

Every warmonger has that mindset. Everyone who fights in a war believes they are fighting and "dying," for their country, and so long as everyone in the world believes that anything is more important than their own life--their country, their God, their ideology, or anything else, and are willing to risk or sacrifice their own life for the sake of it, there will be wars. If everyone in the world refused to risk their own life for the sake of anything that was of direct interest or value to their own life, there would be no wars. Individuals do not start wars, only governments do, and the bigger the government, the more warlike they become.

Ukrainians are fighting against tyranny. They are fighting for freedom which all Ukrainians want.

The Russian soldiers are fighting for their warmongers who sit in Moscow and don't want to sacrifice their own lives.

"Fighting for freedom," is an oxymoron. Those who know what freedom is and love it do not start or participate in fights. Thugs and bullies, "fight," for what they want. The virtuous earn what they want.

You are just a war monger making excuses for the wholesale killing of people and the destruction of their property--a pawn of the military/defence/industry and the government it finances.

[henry quirk]

Biden has not resurrected the possibility of Atomic Death.

As I say: when ORANGE MAN had the Big Chair Putin didn't do diddly.

In fact, durin' his 4 years, a whole whack of the sociopaths in power didn't do diddly.

Now? Russia takes Ukraine (and preps his atomics); China moves toward Taiwan; Islamists are gettin' noisy again.

What's different? Certainly not Putin's aspirations (he's wanted to reconstruct the Soviet Union for years); certainly not the overall composition and skew of world governments. No, the one difference is we no longer have our sociopath in the Big Chair to counter all the other sociopaths. We traded ORANGE MAN for the House Plant.

It's ridiculous that one old fart should control so much of what happens in the world. It's ridiculous we have to counter their sociopath with our sociopath just to keep the Bomb in a silo.

Most ridiculous of all: that this absurdity is normal, that we not only accept it as normal but that we'll fight tooth & nail to keep it as normal.

[Sculptor]

Because Ukrainians are dying for their country against a foreign invader.

What about the ethnic Russians living as Ukrainians that the Ukrainian deth squad have been killing since 2014?
Why have you never spared a thought for them? Is it because your media never bothered to mention the separatists war that led to this current situation?
Why did the Ukraine not follow the Minsk accords?

It takes a village (an international one) to keep the peace. International opinion will decide things in the end. Any country that wishes to behave like an asshole has the same things happen to it as any person who wishes to behave like an asshole. In the end, karma is real. I'm convinced of it.

Ukraine and Russia are both behaving like arses. But why would they take advice from the USA which is the biggest arse of them all. DO you want the list of countries ruined by American aggression since WW2?

I haven't heard anything about Ukrainian death squads killing Russians. Is that coming from Russian media sources?

You haven't heard?
Since the west backed coup(2014) ethnic russians in Ukraine have been trying to separate from the country - you know that?

[Sculptor]

Because Ukrainians are dying for their country against a foreign invader.

What about the ethnic Russians living as Ukrainians that the Ukrainian deth squad have been killing since 2014?
Why have you never spared a thought for them? Is it because your media never bothered to mention the separatists war that led to this current situation?
Why did the Ukraine not follow the Minsk accords?

It takes a village (an international one) to keep the peace. International opinion will decide things in the end. Any country that wishes to behave like an asshole has the same things happen to it as any person who wishes to behave like an asshole. In the end, karma is real. I'm convinced of it.

Ukraine and Russia are both behaving like arses. But why would they take advice from the USA which is the biggest arse of them all. DO you want the list of countries ruined by American aggression since WW2?

The countries that were damaged by our military attacks were not destroyed. Once we left, they recovered and some recovered extremely well.

Words of complete ignorance.
Loas never had a formal declaration of war, but the US dropped more bombs on Laos that was dropped by all countries on all countries during WW2.
Despite a pityful effort at reparations people, mostly children are still to this day getting injured and maimed by unexploded bombs.
But I guess you have never heard of Laos?

Our economic power was not used for aggression. It built up economies around the world. It did not ruin economies.

You are desperately ignorant.
What has happened to Afghanistan?

[Sculptor]

Biden has not resurrected the possibility of Atomic Death.

As I say: when ORANGE MAN had the Big Chair Putin didn't do diddly.

In fact, durin' his 4 years, a whole whack of the sociopaths in power didn't do diddly.

Now? Russia takes Ukraine (and preps his atomics); China moves toward Taiwan; Islamists are gettin' noisy again.

In other words Trump has told he friend Putin, now would be a good time to embarrass Biden.

What's different? Certainly not Putin's aspirations (he's wanted to reconstruct the Soviet Union for years); certainly not the overall composition and skew of world governments. No, the one difference is we no longer have our sociopath in the Big Chair to counter all the other sociopaths. We traded ORANGE MAN for the House Plant.

It's ridiculous that one old fart should control so much of what happens in the world. It's ridiculous we have to counter their sociopath with our sociopath just to keep the Bomb in a silo.

Most ridiculous of all: that this absurdity is normal, that we not only accept it as normal but that we'll fight tooth & nail to keep it as normal.

[Sculptor]

Because Ukrainians are dying for their country ....

Every warmonger has that mindset. Everyone who fights in a war believes they are fighting and "dying," for their country, and so long as everyone in the world believes that anything is more important than their own life--their country, their God, their ideology, or anything else, and are willing to risk or sacrifice their own life for the sake of it, there will be wars. If everyone in the world refused to risk their own life for the sake of anything that was of direct interest or value to their own life, there would be no wars. Individuals do not start wars, only governments do, and the bigger the government, the more warlike they become.

Ukrainians are fighting against tyranny. They are fighting for freedom which all Ukrainians want.

The Russian soldiers are fighting for their warmongers who sit in Moscow and don't want to sacrifice their own lives.

I found this on another board.
I think you might educate yourself by reading it.

One of the consequences of 98% only reading the first sentence on anything is vast miscontruals of Putin's motives. Endless reams of total garbage about his 'evil soul' are now appearing when he has done nothing worse then Bush II invading Ukraine.

First off, Putin has no intention of bombing all the reservoirs and power plants to reduce the nation to a virtual stone age for over a decade, like the USA did to the Iraqis. He has no intention of making 6 million people die of typhoid etc due to lack of water and power, like the USA did to the Iraqis. But you will find a lot of people in the USA now loudly clamoring about Putin's evil, who only 17 years ago loudly clamored for the unjustified invasion of Iraq on totally trumped up false accusations.

For that reason, amongst many others in a long history of US hypocrisys, Putin's not really that after the Ukriaine. He's after uns. I can only admire his superb timing. He could have done this at any time for the last 30 years, but he saved it for this moment. Exactly when the USA hit its lowest unemployment in 50 years, highest information in 70 years, and absolutely zero wiggle room on fed interest rates, he hit the USA with a worldwide oil shortage. Also as Ukraine is a major breadbasket, he is pushing food prices up. And as a result of sanctions, US exports are going to suffer. But most people will be too busy gawking at the TV to realize he just started a major recession in the USA.

Putin has by this superb act of timing made it virtually impossible for Biden to beat one of the Trump family from putting the whole lot back in the White House in 2024. They will withdraw from the Paris Accord again to increase immediate profit. When the Arctic Ice entirely melts away starting a mere three years after his second term, 2035-2045, we now know it will not only affect ocean currents that currently reverse back to the Caribbean by Greenland, and back to Peru from Alaska, but will instead go around the top of Canada, killing all fish and causing the death or virtually everything on every single American coast. We now know it will also change all the jetstreams, making life entirely uninhabitable anywhere in the USA. Of course that won't be until about 2050, so it wont be Trump's fault.

Russia on the other hand is only nation in the world which really benefits from global warming. It has no major cities at sea level and lots of landlocked freezing land. Nothing could please it more than another Trump, and unlike democracies, Russia can afford to wait and take the long term view on its eventual world domination.

[Sculptor]

The countries that were damaged by our military attacks were not destroyed. Once we left, they recovered and some recovered extremely well.

FYI.

https://www.maginternational.org/what-w ... work/laos/

https://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/05/asia ... index.html

http://legaciesofwar.org/legacies-library/

[Sculptor]

The countries that were damaged by our military attacks were not destroyed. Once we left, they recovered and some recovered extremely well.

FYI
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/ ... areas-iraq

[henry quirk]

In other words Trump has told he friend Putin, now would be a good time to embarrass Biden.

Right, more sensible to take Ukraine when your butt boy isn't in office to run interference for you. No, wait till someone who isn't your butt boy has the Big Chair...so you can embarrass them.

That's your story?