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Re: American Marxism

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henry quirk wrote: Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:03 pm With no state to be bought, Capitalism mutates into Free Enterprise. t.
nope vis versa, we start out with Free Entherprise, then some enterrprised via monoply buyout (the nature result of free enterprize) - they buy out the State to enshure latter Coprorate welfare.

thuse free enterprise ends, and capitalism becomes State suopported (Socialsism!!!) - soclail coproprate welfare.


thats the reality bubba.
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Walker wrote: Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:41 pm
Sculptor wrote: Mon Aug 09, 2021 7:23 pm
QED: Your failure "to scratch the surface of understanding of half the ideas that Marx had."
The thing is, Levin wrote the book, and you don't know what he scratched, because you haven't read it. In fact, you don't even know who Levin is, by your own admission, whereas I know that Marx was a crackpot.


American Marxism
by Mark R. Levin

Check it out.

He proves that a Marxist revolution is in process, American style.
spare me the bullshit - the small fish alyways get boughtout by the bigger fish - in 20 yrs result is monlopy of media/oil/coal/etc.........oligarchs - then they have the power to buy govertnment to not alloow them to be broken up as monolies = corp welfare 1-percenters.

save your lomon stand bullsit to teh naive!


you think a true democracy via the poeple and for the people with a said gov would allow 4 companies to own all your mide/info!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

or you just on one the sheople "gov bad. capitalism good" types - bow to rush and your levin bot.
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Walker wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:26 pm
It’s a well-researched book, not just someone spouting off.
lol - that thug has ben ranitng on am rado for 2 decades - he just anothr Micehal Wiener (Mike Savage) - with a higher vioce - think that twit Ben Shapiro.

just antoher grifter trying to cash in on the naive.

go ahead and give the grift money - one born a minute.
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Re: American Marxism

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Walker wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:28 pm
henry quirk wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:09 pm
I missed this earlier...all true...is his assessment of what needs doin' buried in there?
Levin calls himself a conservative activist
looks like talks like walks like....he is a NAZI.
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Walker wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:28 pm
henry quirk wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:09 pm
I missed this earlier...all true...is his assessment of what needs doin' buried in there?
Levin calls himself a conservative activist
looks like talks like walks like....he is a NAZI.

thate is noting conservative aboutr him. he hate the ACLU - so against personal liberty. he is pure pro Polic State - as long as the 1-percenter have their copr wlefare -a dn fuck the rest of the pleab.
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henry quirk wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:25 am
Walker wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:28 pm
henry quirk wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:09 pm
I missed this earlier...all true...is his assessment of what needs doin' buried in there?
Levin calls himself a conservative activist and he shares practical knowledge about how to pressure the system, and he's well-qualified. The first six chapters explain why this is a turning point in history.
Yeah, I know who Levin is, and I know what's goin' down.

Since you mentioned it upthread, I'm just curious what he, in his book, sez needs doin', is all.
whats your opinion on Mr Levin? you think he is a Conservative or a NAZI? - i think the latter.

only the former - a real conservatvie would affirm the goals of the ACLU and view the US Constitution's Bill of Right as defending the individual vs the collective majority. i know you value the individual and have my view of our Constitutiion.

do you think Levin does? - lol - no he don't he is a grifter out fo make coin on a book he wrote and has 20 yr ranting agains individual liberty - via chamoining the 1-percenters as "work hard so got rich" - so lets buy out gov so as not be be borken up though a monopoly")


AT BEST LEvin is a Libertarin economically (but tha tis just charity imo) - I don't think he is Libertarian nor Conservatvie - i think he is just an opportunist with no actual philosophy (outside of "I hop to make Walker and the other millions of vaive pleabs to buy my book") - I know his kind, he's like this guy who was once a Radical Liberal, until it got hot then he became an FBI informer then did a 180 and became an ardent conservaitve and showed up on Libby's Rant NAZi radio show - Brandon Dardy.

Levin is just another Barby schmuck cashing in on the wak minded for some coin (coin is their priniciple they have no other - not conservatvie nor liberal - they are all about ego and coin - nothing more).

looks like Walker is just another weak minded pleab, welcoming the fleecing.
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gaffo wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:07 am
Sculptor wrote: Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:00 pm
Walker wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:48 pm Levin makes the point that Marx was not a philosopher.

Neither was he an economist.

He was a journalist.
He was all three, and at levels way beyond the capacity for you or Levin (whever the fuck that is) to scratch the surface of understanding of half the ideas that Marx had.
i personally think Marx was full of shit.

as i think Levin is.
And I personally think you havn't got the foggiest idea what he was talking about; either of them
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Walker wrote: Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:22 pm
Sculptor wrote: Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:00 pm
Walker wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:48 pm Levin makes the point that Marx was not a philosopher.

Neither was he an economist.

He was a journalist.
He was all three, and at levels way beyond the capacity for you or Levin (whever the fuck that is) to scratch the surface of understanding of half the ideas that Marx had.
From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
In Acts of the Apostles the lifestyle of the community of believers in Jerusalem is described as communal (without individual possession), and uses the phrase "distribution was made unto every man according as he had need" (διεδίδετο δὲ ἑκάστῳ καθότι ἄν τις χρείαν εἶχεν)

I did not know you were an atheist.
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gaffo wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:14 am
henry quirk wrote: Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:03 pm With no state to be bought, Capitalism mutates into Free Enterprise. t.
nope vis versa, *we start out with Free Entherprise, then some enterrprised via monoply buyout (the nature result of free enterprize) - they buy out the State to enshure latter Coprorate welfare.

thuse free enterprise ends, and capitalism becomes State suopported (Socialsism!!!) - soclail coproprate welfare.


thats the reality bubba.
*Yeah, I said that up-thread.
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gaffo wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:49 am
henry quirk wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:25 am
Walker wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:28 pm
Levin calls himself a conservative activist and he shares practical knowledge about how to pressure the system, and he's well-qualified. The first six chapters explain why this is a turning point in history.
Yeah, I know who Levin is, and I know what's goin' down.

Since you mentioned it upthread, I'm just curious what he, in his book, sez needs doin', is all.
*whats your opinion on Mr Levin? you think he is a Conservative or a NAZI? - i think the latter.

only the former - a real conservatvie would affirm the goals of the ACLU and view the US Constitution's Bill of Right as defending the individual vs the collective majority. i know you value the individual and have my view of our Constitutiion.

do you think Levin does? - lol - no he don't he is a grifter out fo make coin on a book he wrote and has 20 yr ranting agains individual liberty - via chamoining the 1-percenters as "work hard so got rich" - so lets buy out gov so as not be be borken up though a monopoly")


AT BEST LEvin is a Libertarin economically (but tha tis just charity imo) - I don't think he is Libertarian nor Conservatvie - i think he is just an opportunist with no actual philosophy (outside of "I hop to make Walker and the other millions of vaive pleabs to buy my book") - I know his kind, he's like this guy who was once a Radical Liberal, until it got hot then he became an FBI informer then did a 180 and became an ardent conservaitve and showed up on Libby's Rant NAZi radio show - Brandon Dardy.

Levin is just another Barby schmuck cashing in on the wak minded for some coin (coin is their priniciple they have no other - not conservatvie nor liberal - they are all about ego and coin - nothing more).

looks like Walker is just another weak minded pleab, welcoming the fleecing.
*Don't have one.
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Sculptor wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:04 pm In Acts of the Apostles the lifestyle of the community of believers in Jerusalem is described as communal (without individual possession), and uses the phrase "distribution was made unto every man according as he had need" (διεδίδετο δὲ ἑκάστῳ καθότι ἄν τις χρείαν εἶχεν)
It's descriptive, not prescriptive. It was also voluntary, not mandatory. And it was a matter of individual choice, not institutional arrangement, and certainly not of political fiat.

Consequently, there is no suggestion at all from that, that the world is obligated to become Socialistic. In fact, there is no indicator there that just because the early Jewish disciples did that, at that time, and under those circumstances, it was mandated for anyone else...far less as a comprehensive political order governing unbelievers. So no, that's not Communism. It's voluntary sharing...which is quite the opposite of Communism, in fact.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:08 pm
Sculptor wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:04 pm In Acts of the Apostles the lifestyle of the community of believers in Jerusalem is described as communal (without individual possession), and uses the phrase "distribution was made unto every man according as he had need" (διεδίδετο δὲ ἑκάστῳ καθότι ἄν τις χρείαν εἶχεν)
It's descriptive, not prescriptive. It was also voluntary, not mandatory. And it was a matter of individual choice, not institutional arrangement, and certainly not of political fiat.
I'd not pegged you for a Marxist too.
SInce when has Christianity even been "voluntary" ? ask the victims of the Reformation; of the Inquisition, the so-called witches burned at the stake; ask them!
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Sculptor wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:32 pm SInce when has Christianity even been "voluntary" ?
Forever. If something was ever done in the name of "Christianity" that was NOT voluntary, then it wasn't Christianity. Christianity is premised on faith, and faith cannot be a product of force.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 1:12 am
Sculptor wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:32 pm SInce when has Christianity even been "voluntary" ?
Forever. If something was ever done in the name of "Christianity" that was NOT voluntary, then it wasn't Christianity. Christianity is premised on faith, and faith cannot be a product of force.
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Sculptor wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 11:25 am Idiot
Ah. Your eloquence and wisdom is its own rebuttal. 8)
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