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gaffo
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Gideon Livy and Ian Pappe(sp) - tow great guys!

one state is the only solution - since 15 yrs ago - and it will be so in 20 40 or 400 yrs - Israel will be dragged kicking and screeming to a one state Republic where the jews might not be the majority - deal with it Israel - sooner would be better than later - but assume it will be the latest possibl - 50 yrs hense - after much blood and oppresion - like south afirca before her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5zw3Yz-yas

the march of histroy is inexerable - not if but when On State bcomes reality there.

BTW the Battle of Algiers is a fabulous movie and is what Isral is now - a French colonial war - where the french win the battles and still lose the war and lose Algeria to the Algerians.
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The King's Torah - written by two Rabbis from Kiryat Arba - is a lovely work:


https://www.dohainstitute.org/en/Resear ... nians.aspx

https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,734 ... 92,00.html
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gaffo wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:11 am
RCSaunders wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:02 pm Justice is people getting what they vote for.

No, folks vote for injustice all the time from germany in 1933 and israel today.
Justice is not getting what you'd like. Justice is getting the consequences of your own choices. If you make dumb choices that consequences will not be what you like, but that is what justice is.

You are talking about some kind of, "man-made," Utopian view of justice.
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RCSaunders wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:39 pm
gaffo wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:11 am
RCSaunders wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:02 pm Justice is people getting what they vote for.

No, folks vote for injustice all the time from germany in 1933 and israel today.
Justice is not getting what you'd like. Justice is getting the consequences of your own choices. If you make dumb choices that consequences will not be what you like, but that is what justice is.

You are talking about some kind of, "man-made," Utopian view of justice.
i think we are talking about the same ting. we get what we deserve. justice is not what we usually deserve.


so i think we agree - if not - welcome clarification. on the matter.
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RCSaunders wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:39 pm
Justice is not getting what you'd like. Justice is getting the consequences of your own choices.

yes, my reply was per the vote.

RCSaunders wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:39 pm If you make dumb choices that consequences will not be what you like, but that is what justice is.
yep

RCSaunders wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:39 pm You are talking about some kind of, "man-made," Utopian view of justice.
nope. just reality and the sad history of.
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