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Re: Why are More Blacks Killed by Police Than Others?

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Veritas Aequitas wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:45 am In contrast, the African ... will be less "civilized" than those above.
Doesn't look like your freedom to spout your racist doctrine is being the least bit repressed. I'm delighted to see it. Now no one can doubt exactly where this hateful nonsense is coming from.
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Re: Why are More Blacks Killed by Police Than Others?

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Veritas Aequitas wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:45 am Evolutionary wise, therefore those whose civilization that are older >1500 years or thereabout will have a greater time to be civilized. [there are exceptions]
Thus they will have a greater time opportunity to have a greater average of people who are civilized with extremes on both sides of the curve.

The correlation between the above civilization is VERY evident by the progress of the greater average of India[n]s, Chinese, Persians, Iraqian [Sumerians], Egyptians and the likes. Note the Europeans has their Enlightenment.

In contrast, the African civilizations [middle and South] on average progressed slower than the rest of people around the world since a few hundred years ago. As such, relatively their average will be less "civilized" than those above.

Less civilized means the average are more inclined to criminality, violence and other negatives.
This is what happened with police brutality and killings within the African Americans whose evolutionary state on average are relatively and fundamentally less civilized.
It is because of their inherent 'lesser civilized' state that on average there are more African-Americans who are prone to criminality and violence, the greater exposure to accidental killings by police.
Even on this mad, stupid, shit forum, that is some of the maddest, stupidest shit I've ever read.
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Re: Why are More Blacks Killed by Police Than Others?

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Veritas Aequitas wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:45 am Here are some points for discussion:
Note I am using 'civilize' in a very academic sense, not meant to be derogatory.

One fact most want to ignore or is ignorant of is the evolutionary, civilizational and cultural factors.

Note the Bell Curve i.e. Normal Distribution for any large group.
In a normal distribution, there will be say 1% extreme on both side and the majority [75-80 %] are the median, i.e. average.

This is fact re the 10 oldest civilizations in reverse order;
https://www.ancienthistorylists.com/anc ... r-existed/
  • 10. The Incan Civilization
    9. The Aztec Civilization
    8. The Roman Civilization
    7. The Persian Civilization
    6. The Ancient Greek Civilization
    5. The Chinese Civilization
    4. The Maya Civilization
    3. The Ancient Egyptian Civilization
    2. The Indus Valley Civilization
    1. The Mesopotamian Civilization
Evolutionary wise, therefore those whose civilization that are older >1500 years or thereabout will have a greater time to be civilized. [there are exceptions]
Thus they will have a greater time opportunity to have a greater average of people who are civilized with extremes on both sides of the curve.

The correlation between the above civilization is VERY evident by the progress of the greater average of India[n]s, Chinese, Persians, Iraqian [Sumerians], Egyptians and the likes. Note the Europeans has their Enlightenment.

In contrast, the African civilizations [middle and South] on average progressed slower than the rest of people around the world since a few hundred years ago. As such, relatively their average will be less "civilized" than those above.

Less civilized means the average are more inclined to criminality, violence and other negatives.
This is what happened with police brutality and killings within the African Americans whose evolutionary state on average are relatively and fundamentally less civilized.
It is because of their inherent 'lesser civilized' state that on average there are more African-Americans who are prone to criminality and violence, the greater exposure to accidental killings by police.

In the present case [2021], it is not the case of blackness and whiteness as the CRTists would insist to claim.
Many of the India[n]-Americans originating from South India are also black but they don't complain of police brutality, killings and blatant racial discriminations.

So the complains by the blacks and their CRT apologists are barking up the wrong tree in blaming skin color as the factor in police brutality and killings.

Instead they should look within themselves and acknowledge their anthropological, evolutionary and civilizational background and work around these factors to optimize their well being rather than blaming outsiders.

Note I am dealing with averages.
There are exceptions, i.e. even within the least civilized [time based] people, there could be exceptional 1% of savants and geniuses. The most civilized will have idiots at the extremes.

Also, the average from the longer civilization can also be suppressed or regress if influenced by evil ideologies, e.g. the impact of evil Islam on those from the older civilizations, e.g. the Iraqians, the Egyptians, etc.
But having the inherent potentials they can rebound easily, e.g. China.

My point:
It is not the case of blackness and whiteness as the CRTist would insist to claim.
So the complains by the blacks and their CRT apologists are barking up the wrong tree in blaming skin color as the factor in police brutality and killings.

Views?
There is a lot of shallow nonsense here. According to you, muslims are the worst people on the planet, yet they come from the most ancient civilisation--the 'cradle of civilisation'. It would be hard to find anything more civilised than the American civil rights marches of the 1960s, and LESS civilised than the public and police reaction to them. What about the 'nanny killers'--the British mercenaries who went to Africa and specialised in slaughtering women and children? The 'civilised' military thugs who have been committing atrocities in the ME for decades (the exposure of which has seen Julian Assange being tortured for years)? Africans have had their own sophisticated civilisations throughout history. The ancient Egyptians weren't exactly 'white'....
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Re: Why are More Blacks Killed by Police Than Others?

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mickthinks wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:40 pm
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:45 amViews?
So you believe African Americans are racially inferior. in my view that makes you a neo-Nazi, VA.
You are too hasty.
I have to say you lack intelligence [aka s...] on the above.
Where did I assert that?
You are racist in viewing the discussion from the racial lens.

I wrote this in my post;
  • So the complains by the blacks and their CRT apologists are barking up the wrong tree in blaming skin color as the factor in police brutality and killings.
deliberately to steer away from racism.

Note my approach is anthropological, civilizational and evolutionary from the academic perspective.
Can you prove me wrong?
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RCSaunders wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:00 pm
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:45 am In contrast, the African ... will be less "civilized" than those above.
Doesn't look like your freedom to spout your racist doctrine is being the least bit repressed. I'm delighted to see it. Now no one can doubt exactly where this hateful nonsense is coming from.
It takes a racist to see racism everywhere.

You are so stupid that when you read the term "African Americans" it is always in racial tone but never in other perspectives, e.g. evolutional, anthropological, civilizational, and other fields of knowledge.

It is only when one recognize and acknowledge the fact that real progress can be made.
Recognition of such facts is where affirmative actions and positive discriminations in some degrees are effective.
From the recognition of such facts, in future we may be able to come up with accelerated learnings to expedite those 'lesser' to be on par with the average.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 11:11 pm
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:45 am Here are some points for discussion:
Note I am using 'civilize' in a very academic sense, not meant to be derogatory.

One fact most want to ignore or is ignorant of is the evolutionary, civilizational and cultural factors.

Note the Bell Curve i.e. Normal Distribution for any large group.
In a normal distribution, there will be say 1% extreme on both side and the majority [75-80 %] are the median, i.e. average.

This is fact re the 10 oldest civilizations in reverse order;
https://www.ancienthistorylists.com/anc ... r-existed/
  • 10. The Incan Civilization
    9. The Aztec Civilization
    8. The Roman Civilization
    7. The Persian Civilization
    6. The Ancient Greek Civilization
    5. The Chinese Civilization
    4. The Maya Civilization
    3. The Ancient Egyptian Civilization
    2. The Indus Valley Civilization
    1. The Mesopotamian Civilization
Evolutionary wise, therefore those whose civilization that are older >1500 years or thereabout will have a greater time to be civilized. [there are exceptions]
Thus they will have a greater time opportunity to have a greater average of people who are civilized with extremes on both sides of the curve.

The correlation between the above civilization is VERY evident by the progress of the greater average of India[n]s, Chinese, Persians, Iraqian [Sumerians], Egyptians and the likes. Note the Europeans has their Enlightenment.

In contrast, the African civilizations [middle and South] on average progressed slower than the rest of people around the world since a few hundred years ago. As such, relatively their average will be less "civilized" than those above.

Less civilized means the average are more inclined to criminality, violence and other negatives.
This is what happened with police brutality and killings within the African Americans whose evolutionary state on average are relatively and fundamentally less civilized.
It is because of their inherent 'lesser civilized' state that on average there are more African-Americans who are prone to criminality and violence, the greater exposure to accidental killings by police.

In the present case [2021], it is not the case of blackness and whiteness as the CRTists would insist to claim.
Many of the India[n]-Americans originating from South India are also black but they don't complain of police brutality, killings and blatant racial discriminations.

So the complains by the blacks and their CRT apologists are barking up the wrong tree in blaming skin color as the factor in police brutality and killings.

Instead they should look within themselves and acknowledge their anthropological, evolutionary and civilizational background and work around these factors to optimize their well being rather than blaming outsiders.

Note I am dealing with averages.
There are exceptions, i.e. even within the least civilized [time based] people, there could be exceptional 1% of savants and geniuses. The most civilized will have idiots at the extremes.

Also, the average from the longer civilization can also be suppressed or regress if influenced by evil ideologies, e.g. the impact of evil Islam on those from the older civilizations, e.g. the Iraqians, the Egyptians, etc.
But having the inherent potentials they can rebound easily, e.g. China.

My point:
It is not the case of blackness and whiteness as the CRTist would insist to claim.
So the complains by the blacks and their CRT apologists are barking up the wrong tree in blaming skin color as the factor in police brutality and killings.

Views?
There is a lot of shallow nonsense here. According to you, muslims are the worst people on the planet, yet they come from the most ancient civilisation--the 'cradle of civilisation'. It would be hard to find anything more civilised than the American civil rights marches of the 1960s, and LESS civilised than the public and police reaction to them. What about the 'nanny killers'--the British mercenaries who went to Africa and specialised in slaughtering women and children? The 'civilised' military thugs who have been committing atrocities in the ME for decades (the exposure of which has seen Julian Assange being tortured for years)? Africans have had their own sophisticated civilisations throughout history. The ancient Egyptians weren't exactly 'white'....
You missed out this point in my post??
  • "Also, the average from the longer civilization can also be suppressed or regress if influenced by evil ideologies, e.g. the impact of evil Islam on those from the older civilizations, e.g. the Iraqians, the Egyptians, etc."
In addition, you simply ignored my qualifications regarding the Normal Distribution, averages and the academic field of studies [not ideological ones like those of the CRTists].
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Re: Why are More Blacks Killed by Police Than Others?

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Veritas Aequitas wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:58 am
mickthinks wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:40 pmSo you believe African Americans are racially inferior. in my view that makes you a neo-Nazi, VA.
Where did I assert that?
It can be inferred from many of the assertions you have made, such as this one:

... African Americans whose evolutionary state on average are relatively and fundamentally [more inclined to criminality, violence and other negatives].

That is a Nazi doctrine. You are clearly and unequivocally preaching Nazism.
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mickthinks wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:35 am
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:58 am
mickthinks wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:40 pmSo you believe African Americans are racially inferior. in my view that makes you a neo-Nazi, VA.
Where did I assert that?
It can be inferred from many of the assertions you have made, such as this one:

... African Americans whose evolutionary state on average are relatively and fundamentally [more inclined to criminality, violence and other negatives].

That is a Nazi doctrine. You are clearly and unequivocally preaching Nazism.
You are insulting your own intelligence in resorting to rhetoric.

What I presented above is based on statistics of the averages.

The facts are quite obvious even without researched statistics.
The problem with Nazism is their evil and demented ideological views on such facts, i.e. they feel superior and want to exterminate them as inferior.
Where did I share such doctrines?

Note I have argued the whole issue of CRT should be diverted to the question of criminality and policing, and this must be resolved on the basis of the Philosophy of Morality with other fields of knowledge for the sake of all regardless of skin-color.

Your stance of ignoring the facts [the statistics] is worst than the Nazi where your focus is always on skin-color.

By not recognizing the stats of the averages, YOU are assuming the "African Americans" are equal to everyone in terms in cognitive abilities as such no attention need to be given in such terms.
As such they should be given equal representations in every field in respect of the numbers and % without regard to whether they have the effective competence to do the job or not.
This is what is going with the MLB [baseball association in US] at present.

Since you are into it [relying on skin color], note 60% of USA are whites while 13% are blacks, but the NBA is represented by appx 90% blacks, so by your expectations and theory, they should put more whites i.e. up to 60% in the NBA regardless of their abilities and competences?

Don't insult your own intelligence, THINK more deeply and widely.
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The problem with Nazism is their evil and demented ideological views on such facts, i.e. they feel superior and want to exterminate them as inferior.

Yes Nazism is an evil and you are espousing one of its signature doctrines: Übermensch v Untermensch.

Where did I share such doctrines?
You haven’t shared them all. Should I have waited for you to dump the whole of Mein Kampf in the thread before calling out your Nazism? I don’t think so.
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Typical wokism. Anyone who isn't part of their cult is called either 'bigot', 'racist', or 'Nazi'--the entirety of their 'argument'. That's all you ever see from them :roll:
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Veritas Aequitas wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:11 am
mickthinks wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:35 am
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:58 am
Where did I assert that?
It can be inferred from many of the assertions you have made, such as this one:

... African Americans whose evolutionary state on average are relatively and fundamentally [more inclined to criminality, violence and other negatives].

That is a Nazi doctrine. You are clearly and unequivocally preaching Nazism.
You are insulting your own intelligence in resorting to rhetoric.

What I presented above is based on statistics of the averages.

The facts are quite obvious even without researched statistics.
The problem with Nazism is their evil and demented ideological views on such facts, i.e. they feel superior and want to exterminate them as inferior.
Where did I share such doctrines?

Note I have argued the whole issue of CRT should be diverted to the question of criminality and policing, and this must be resolved on the basis of the Philosophy of Morality with other fields of knowledge for the sake of all regardless of skin-color.

Your stance of ignoring the facts [the statistics] is worst than the Nazi where your focus is always on skin-color.

By not recognizing the stats of the averages, YOU are assuming the "African Americans" are equal to everyone in terms in cognitive abilities as such no attention need to be given in such terms.
As such they should be given equal representations in every field in respect of the numbers and % without regard to whether they have the effective competence to do the job or not.
This is what is going with the MLB [baseball association in US] at present.

Since you are into it [relying on skin color], note 60% of USA are whites while 13% are blacks, but the NBA is represented by appx 90% blacks, so by your expectations and theory, they should put more whites i.e. up to 60% in the NBA regardless of their abilities and competences?

Don't insult your own intelligence, THINK more deeply and widely.
Of course the NBA is racist for only having black players (not to mentiona 'sizeist' for its lack of short players), just as the Bolshoi and Royal ballet are racist for not having black ballerinas (and also sizeist for not having fat dancers in its ranks). The olympics are racist because of the lack of ..ahem.. 'diversity' in individual sports. Why so few white sprinters? So few black swimmers? Tsk tsk.

Oddly enough, Hitler had an unlikely ally in Jesse Owens who said that he had been treated with the utmost respect in Germany, in stark contrast to the way he was treated by the US and US president, and that the 'enraged Hitler' story was cooked up by the press.
All easily verifiable facts. The Nazis weren't sure how they should 'box' black people.
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mickthinks wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:52 pm
The problem with Nazism is their evil and demented ideological views on such facts, i.e. they feel superior and want to exterminate them as inferior.

Yes Nazism is an evil and you are espousing one of its signature doctrines: Übermensch v Untermensch.

Where did I share such doctrines?
You haven’t shared them all. Should I have waited for you to dump the whole of Mein Kampf in the thread before calling out your Nazism? I don’t think so.
Btw, are you certified to have some kind of mental cognitive issues e.g. Autism or the likes where one is unable to grasp the full ideas presented by others and that you can only expressed to what in confined to your mind.

What you have done is to ignore the full perspective of my presentations but merely cherry pick to suit your ideological and psychiatric position.

You don't fully understand the circumstances of Nietzsche's Übermensch
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Cbermensch
and Hitler's bastardization of the term,
and you ignorantly and stupidly associate the term Übermensch with my ideas.

I presented the 10 oldest civilization and German's civilization is not included in the list and thus Hitler's ideas has nothing to do with my views herein.

My presentation of the oldest civilization has nothing to do with superiority e.g. IQ, physical features and other egoistic claims.
My take on civilization is all about civility, i.e. in terms of cultures, Emotional Intelligence, virtues, morality, wisdom, philosophy, progress, etc.

I stated the whole issue of police brutality should be managed overall within the Philosophy of Morality and Ethics [this is critical].
I wonder you have a good grasp of Morality and Ethics [.. I am a reasonable expert on the topic] which by default is the promoting the 'good' to overcome 'evil.'

Because Hitler's thoughts and acts are evil [which you agree in contrast with my proposals of Morality and Ethics [which is good over evil], my views cannot in line with Hitler's evil doctrines.

Looks like you have some kind of cognitive defects, suggest you go for a check up.
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Author debunks critical race theory with simple explanation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2esl0yVFXE
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Why is it that it's only white people in English-speaking countries who are being forced to pretend to love everyone by patronising, wanky wokies?
Japan refuses to let any muslims into Japan and has very little immigration because it wants to protect its culture. No one ever complains about that.
Indians hate Pakistanis. Chinese hate Japanese. Canadians hate Americans. Kristians hate atheists (and pretty much everyone else). Catholics hate protestants. Different muslim sects hate each other. Fuck. Everyone hates everyone else. So what? As long as we aren't killing each other then what does it matter? Most (if not all) of the killing in the world isn't being done due to any particular dislike. It's being done by brain-washed drones at the behest of arms manufacturers and other big business interests. The rest are mostly domestic disputes and have nothing whatever to do with disliking people with different cultural bad habits.
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Everyone hates everyone else.

Nah. Like I said to Dubious elsewhere, the average schmo has no interest in persecutin' his neighbor till those in charge, who wanna be in charge, cultivate frictions, turn up the heat, set folks on edge, and get 'em goin' at one another,

The real sin of Joe schmo: he trusts too much with too little reason. Jack Glib promises solutions to problems (that don't exist till Jack creates 'em or gets Joe to believin' exists) and Joe Schmo takes him at his word, gifts Jack with authority, and gets led by the nose.

Color, creed, culture: these aren't the problem; the Jack Glibs who frame color, creed, and culture as problems are the problem.
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