Critical Race Theory

[Veritas Aequitas]

If one take statistics at face valued without looking at the detail and contexts, they are indeed "lies" and are very misleading.

That's my point, really. As you have taken statistics, you will already know that one serious problem in gathering them is "too large a sample size." (That's in every basic statstics textbook, so you can hardly have missed it.) I suggest to you that blaming the entire globe equally for the existence of racism is using too big a sample size: you need to sample from China, from the Middle East, from Africa and Russia, and so on, as separate entities from, say, Denmark, Canada or Australia.

You are deflecting all over.

I'll repeat; It started with this;

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:08 am
Racialism is still a big issue...

No, it's not.
We live in the most open, tolerant and racially-indifferent society in human history so far. What race problems remain are so small as to be laughable, actually. Nobody takes racists seriously anymore.

I stated 'racism' still still a problem which I meant generally, but you countered it is not and this!!
What race problems remain are so small as to be laughable, actually. Nobody takes racists seriously anymore.

The link I provided is sufficient evidence to counter your claim above.

Have you studied 'statistics' as a subject?
In statistics, the first mantra or principle is, the greater the sample size possible [but in practice it is always constraint by cost, time and convenience], the more accurate the conclusions.
If cost, time and convenience are not constraints, then physically measuring the heights of ALL US citizens would give more accurate results of height distribution [Bell Curve] and medians/averages than taking partial and smaller sample sizes.

Then a global statistic would tell us something. Otherwise, it tells us too little: it tells us only that "racism exists in the globe," but nothing at all about where it exists, and who the real perpetrators are. Worse still, it spreads blame for places like China all over the faces of those in places like Sweden or the UK, as if they owe us to give account for what China and the Middle East do in that respect.

So we owe it to those who are doing much better on racism, like the US and the UK, for example, NOT to lump them in with the places where racism is still being openly practiced and is oppressing, maiming and killing people. That would be to convict the innocent (or more precisely, the much-less-guilty) with the truly guilty.

Since I stated 'racism' [implied in general] is still a problem, thus our problem must be dealt initially on a global and generic basis, i.e. the common factors that contribute to racism within all humanity.
Then we will deal with the special circumstances specific to each nations or group.

But as I said, practicioners of CRT are really cowards with no genuine interest in dealing with real racism. They want, instead, to stay in their comfortable, Western locales, theorizing and holding rallies, safe from any real risk, using guilt-language to leverage advantages for themselves. And you can see that is true, because despite the much worse racism in places like Russia or the Middle East, they do absolutely nothing to resist all that...in fact, they accuse people of "Islamophobia" or "anti-Asian racism" for even speaking out against the sorts of racist evils those countries routinely do.

Where are the CRT "missionaries," going out into the world to spread their "gospel" of freedom to the lost? You'll never find them. They don't really care at all. They are craven, spoiled, and corrupt. And by their deeds we know them.

The practitioners of CRT are not confined to the USA but throughout the world [if you are knowledgeable of it].
For example, the blacks in, Zimbabwe, South Africa are practicing it after the abolishment of apartheid, i.e. still clinging on the idea of blackness as victims and must be protected as all costs based on their blackness.

Racism like most other serious issues [e.g. theism] emerged from a soup [minestrone] of very complex and deep human and environmental variables which the majority of ignorant of.

The most effective path to deal with CRT and racism itself is to dig into the primal factors of human nature and its psychology and the most effective is from the aspects of the neurosciences, evolutionary psychology, anthropology and the likes.

[uwot]

That is what Rufo is doing with CRT, i.e. he is arguing and giving evidences that CRT is toxic.

Rufo is not doing what you say he is doing, he is doing exactly what he says he is doing. Does this look familiar?

The goal is to have the public read something crazy in the newspaper and immediately think "critical race theory." We have decodified the term and will recodify it to annex the entire range of cultural constructions that are unpopular with Americans.

This is CRT as defined by a fairly reliable source:

Critical race theorists hold that the law and legal institutions in the United States are inherently racist insofar as they function to create and maintain social, economic, and political inequalities between whites and nonwhites, especially African Americans.

This is CRT as Rufo would wish us believe:

Critical race theorists hold all laws even those on freedom of speech, equality for all and the likes are racist.

According to the Encyclopaedia Brittanica, advocates of CRT argue that US law is racist. The logical step that all US laws are therefore racist is invalid. It may be that your own critical thinking arrived at that poor logic independently, but it is precisely the sort of error that right wing media are happy to exploit, and in some cases actively promote.

[Veritas Aequitas]

That is what Rufo is doing with CRT, i.e. he is arguing and giving evidences that CRT is toxic.

Rufo is not doing what you say he is doing, he is doing exactly what he says he is doing. Does this look familiar?

The goal is to have the public read something crazy in the newspaper and immediately think "critical race theory."
We have decodified the term and will recodify it to annex the entire range of cultural constructions that are unpopular with Americans.

Note the whole context of Rufo's tweet is related to Critical Race Theory.

When Rufo mentioned this;
"the entire range of cultural constructions that are unpopular with Americans."
What is unpopular with Americans is related specifically to Critical Race Theory.

Surely there are loads of cultural constructions that are unpopular with Americans, e.g. drugs, homelessness, poverty, covid19, China-hatred, etc. which Rufo do not have expertise in and thus he would not connect or recodify with Critical Race Theory.

Critical Race Theory at present is quite a loose terms even when there are the so-called main ideas and range of views, books, articles out there.
What Rufo wants is to recodify and annex to the term 'critical race theory' those disguised views and subliminal activities that are related to Critical Race Theory as specifically Critical Race Theory.

For example, at present there are many programs to promote the appreciation of diversity and American past history on the treatments of minorities, but the CRTists are stealthily infecting their extremists ideologies into this supposed innocent programs to brainwashed children and adults with their extremist ideas.
Rufo provided many examples of such incidents.

Note the very recent released of the sex predator Bill Crosby who is black.
With detailed analysis this recent judgment is likely to be influenced by CRT ideologies.

One of the main strategy of CRT is radical activism which has resulted in riots and violence and these had already effected the judgment of juries in various criminal cases involving blacks.
What Rufo is trying to do is to nail such events as the results of Critical Race Theory activisms.
The point here is Rufo must give credible arguments and evidence to support his views and he has done so.
I believe he is starting to create a website with the list supported by the arguments and evidences from his research and whistle-blowers.

This is CRT as defined by a fairly reliable source:

Critical race theorists hold that the law and legal institutions in the United States are inherently racist insofar as they function to create and maintain social, economic, and political inequalities between whites and nonwhites, especially African Americans.

This is CRT as Rufo would wish us believe:

Critical race theorists hold all laws even those on freedom of speech, equality for all and the likes are racist.

According to the Encyclopaedia Brittanica, advocates of CRT argue that US law is racist. The logical step that all US laws are therefore racist is invalid. It may be that your own critical thinking arrived at that poor logic independently, but it is precisely the sort of error that right wing media are happy to exploit, and in some cases actively promote.

The Encyclopaedia Brittanica is a general view written by a selected author and it has no greater authority than WIKI [which is opened to different voices].
I would not rely too much on The Encyclopaedia Brittanica.

To understand CRT-proper given there is none at present, one will have to do deeper research to understand what CRT represent. I have done so, and have a good idea what CRT is about.
I am reading the books written by the people quoted by The Encyclopaedia Brittanica.

Reading the WIKI article would also give one a reasonable views, especially note the criticisms;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_ ... #Criticism
Note also the references and the Further Reading list and one has to make sure one read some of the main books and articles listed therein. I have done so. You?

[uwot]

The goal is to have the public read something crazy in the newspaper and immediately think "critical race theory."
We have decodified the term and will recodify it to annex the entire range of cultural constructions that are unpopular with Americans.

Note the whole context of Rufo's tweet is related to Critical Race Theory.

When Rufo mentioned this;
"the entire range of cultural constructions that are unpopular with Americans."
What is unpopular with Americans is related specifically to Critical Race Theory.

Right; he wants people like you to read something crazy about any of "the entire range of cultural constructions that are unpopular with Americans" and "immediately think "critical race theory."" Something most people are unlikely to do without prompting. In other words Rufo is getting people to believe something that he has made up. CRT, once a fringe theory in academic law is now responsible for all of America's craziness, because enough Americans are crazy enough to get wound up by it.

[Immanuel Can]

If one take statistics at face valued without looking at the detail and contexts, they are indeed "lies" and are very misleading.

That's my point, really. As you have taken statistics, you will already know that one serious problem in gathering them is "too large a sample size." (That's in every basic statstics textbook, so you can hardly have missed it.) I suggest to you that blaming the entire globe equally for the existence of racism is using too big a sample size: you need to sample from China, from the Middle East, from Africa and Russia, and so on, as separate entities from, say, Denmark, Canada or Australia.

You are deflecting all over.

No, it's in every textbook.

That you don't know it is surprising, since you say you've taken statistics.

I stated 'racism' still still a problem

You said it was a worldwide problem. It is: but not in that all countries individually have it; only in the sense that some countries have tons of it, and some have almost eliminated it completely. That's the truth.

And I know you know it.

The link I provided is sufficient evidence to counter your claim above.

The link is not evidence. The link shows what the perception of racism is. Perception is how guilty people in each place feel about it, not a measure of how much racism actually exists. Again, if you're a statistician, you know this.

If Americans are hypersensitive to everything that smacks of racism, and feel guilty about it, and strive to change it, what do you think people in the Middle East are like? Do you think they feel similarly concerned? How about in China? What do you suppose the perception is like in Russia or Africa? Because it's only perception that website talks about.

So prove that the US and UK have actual racism anywhere close to China and the Middle East, and maybe you'll have a point: for now, none.

...our problem must be dealt initially on a global and generic basis,...

That's an absurd claim. In the first place, nothing can be "dealt with on a generic (sic?) basis." Secondly, there is no global authority to whom you can turn to do this. Let's see you try to rein in China. Tell me how you'll do that. Or how about Saudi? Who is going to deal with Somalia's tribal racism? Let's hear your solution on those situations.

But as I said, practicioners of CRT are really cowards with no genuine interest in dealing with real racism. They want, instead, to stay in their comfortable, Western locales, theorizing and holding rallies, safe from any real risk, using guilt-language to leverage advantages for themselves. And you can see that is true, because despite the much worse racism in places like Russia or the Middle East, they do absolutely nothing to resist all that...in fact, they accuse people of "Islamophobia" or "anti-Asian racism" for even speaking out against the sorts of racist evils those countries routinely do.

Where are the CRT "missionaries," going out into the world to spread their "gospel" of freedom to the lost? You'll never find them. They don't really care at all. They are craven, spoiled, and corrupt. And by their deeds we know them.

The practitioners of CRT are not confined to the USA but throughout the world

Heh. Yes, I hear there's a vast, powerfully lobby of CRTers in China and the Middle East. I wonder why they're so completely impotent to do anything, though...

For example, the blacks in, Zimbabwe, South Africa

Ummm...I hate to tell you, but Zimbabwe and South African are different countries ...Better check your geography.

[Veritas Aequitas]

The goal is to have the public read something crazy in the newspaper and immediately think "critical race theory."
We have decodified the term and will recodify it to annex the entire range of cultural constructions that are unpopular with Americans.

Note the whole context of Rufo's tweet is related to Critical Race Theory.

When Rufo mentioned this;
"the entire range of cultural constructions that are unpopular with Americans."
What is unpopular with Americans is related specifically to Critical Race Theory.

Right; he wants people like you to read something crazy about any of "the entire range of cultural constructions that are unpopular with Americans" and "immediately think "critical race theory."" Something most people are unlikely to do without prompting. In other words Rufo is getting people to believe something that he has made up. CRT, once a fringe theory in academic law is now responsible for all of America's craziness, because enough Americans are crazy enough to get wound up by it.

How come you are getting SO stupid in this point.

The whole context is about CRT and its specific elements and characteristics.

In this case, the "the entire range of cultural constructions that are unpopular with Americans" is specific to CRT only.

Prove Rufo has done otherwise to the above point to other non-CRT related unpopular constructions cultural?
If he had done it would only make him very stupid and I for one would not believe in that.

As I had pointed out the CRT activists are infiltrating into various parts of society, education, etc. and embedding their CRT elements disguised as diversity and equality programs.
What Rufo implied is he wanted to decodify these hidden CRT agendas and labelled [recodify] them as what they really are.

[Veritas Aequitas]

That's my point, really. As you have taken statistics, you will already know that one serious problem in gathering them is "too large a sample size." (That's in every basic statstics textbook, so you can hardly have missed it.) I suggest to you that blaming the entire globe equally for the existence of racism is using too big a sample size: you need to sample from China, from the Middle East, from Africa and Russia, and so on, as separate entities from, say, Denmark, Canada or Australia.

You are deflecting all over.

No, it's in every textbook.

That you don't know it is surprising, since you say you've taken statistics.

I stated 'racism' still still a problem

You said it was a worldwide problem. It is: but not in that all countries individually have it; only in the sense that some countries have tons of it, and some have almost eliminated it completely. That's the truth.

And I know you know it.

The link I provided is sufficient evidence to counter your claim above.

The link is not evidence. The link shows what the perception of racism is. Perception is how guilty people in each place feel about it, not a measure of how much racism actually exists. Again, if you're a statistician, you know this.

If Americans are hypersensitive to everything that smacks of racism, and feel guilty about it, and strive to change it, what do you think people in the Middle East are like? Do you think they feel similarly concerned? How about in China? What do you suppose the perception is like in Russia or Africa? Because it's only perception that website talks about.

So prove that the US and UK have actual racism anywhere close to China and the Middle East, and maybe you'll have a point: for now, none.

...our problem must be dealt initially on a global and generic basis,...

That's an absurd claim. In the first place, nothing can be "dealt with on a generic (sic?) basis." Secondly, there is no global authority to whom you can turn to do this. Let's see you try to rein in China. Tell me how you'll do that. Or how about Saudi? Who is going to deal with Somalia's tribal racism? Let's hear your solution on those situations.

But as I said, practicioners of CRT are really cowards with no genuine interest in dealing with real racism. They want, instead, to stay in their comfortable, Western locales, theorizing and holding rallies, safe from any real risk, using guilt-language to leverage advantages for themselves. And you can see that is true, because despite the much worse racism in places like Russia or the Middle East, they do absolutely nothing to resist all that...in fact, they accuse people of "Islamophobia" or "anti-Asian racism" for even speaking out against the sorts of racist evils those countries routinely do.

Where are the CRT "missionaries," going out into the world to spread their "gospel" of freedom to the lost? You'll never find them. They don't really care at all. They are craven, spoiled, and corrupt. And by their deeds we know them.

The practitioners of CRT are not confined to the USA but throughout the world

Heh. Yes, I hear there's a vast, powerfully lobby of CRTers in China and the Middle East. I wonder why they're so completely impotent to do anything, though...

For example, the blacks in, Zimbabwe, South Africa

Ummm...I hate to tell you, but Zimbabwe and South African are different countries ...Better check your geography.

You are babbling noises above.

I meant to write 'Zimbabwe, South Africa and some other countries..'

[uwot]

How come you are getting SO stupid in this point.

The whole context is about CRT and its specific elements and characteristics.

In this case, the "the entire range of cultural constructions that are unpopular with Americans" is specific to CRT only.

Your problem, well, among your problems, is that you are easy meat for a headfucker like Rufo. He is only saying what you want to believe. That makes it easy for you to agree with him. It is not that ""the entire range of cultural constructions that are unpopular with Americans" is specific to CRT only." It is that he wants you to associate "the entire range of cultural constructions that are unpopular with Americans" with CRT.

Prove Rufo has done otherwise to the above point to other non-CRT related unpopular constructions cultural?

He says so here:

The goal is to have the public read something crazy in the newspaper and immediately think "critical race theory." We have decodified the term and will recodify it to annex the entire range of cultural constructions that are unpopular with Americans. https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/statu ... 96352?s=20

[uwot]

Will, I admire your patience and restraint!

Thanks for that Mick. Unfortunately, I only spotted this when it had all run out.

[Sculptor]

How odd.
Veritas is the only one not "stupid".
Weird eh?

[Veritas Aequitas]

How come you are getting SO stupid in this point.

The whole context is about CRT and its specific elements and characteristics.

In this case, the "the entire range of cultural constructions that are unpopular with Americans" is specific to CRT only.

Your problem, well, among your problems, is that you are easy meat for a headfucker like Rufo. He is only saying what you want to believe. That makes it easy for you to agree with him. It is not that ""the entire range of cultural constructions that are unpopular with Americans" is specific to CRT only." It is that he wants you to associate "the entire range of cultural constructions that are unpopular with Americans" with CRT.

Prove Rufo has done otherwise to the above point to other non-CRT related unpopular constructions cultural?

He says so here:

The goal is to have the public read something crazy in the newspaper and immediately think "critical race theory." We have decodified the term and will recodify it to annex the entire range of cultural constructions that are unpopular with Americans. https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/statu ... 96352?s=20

You missed my point?

I asked you to show evidences and give examples of which "of the entire range of cultural constructions that are unpopular with Americans"
that Rufo wants or had convinced people [me or others] that it is related to 'Critical Race Theory'
when they really has nothing to do with race in the first place.

Note at present the "unpopular" spread of opioids, the southern wall, wearing of masks, lockdowns and the likes are within "the entire range of cultural constructions that are unpopular with Americans,"
did Rufo relate or want people to think the above are related to Critical Race Theory?

What Rufo is referring are those activities within diversity programs that are infected subliminally by CRT elements by overzealous CRTists and he want to expose them as CRT specifically as reflected in the CRT ideology.

6:15 - Critical Race Theory as Public Policy
listen to this 2.5 minute point where Rufo highlighted the subliminal CRTists activism disguised as diversity and equality programs must be labelled as CRT driven.
Don't run away from this critical point.

Note the recent case, Gwen Berry who had qualified for the Olympics and she turned her back to the American flag when the National Anthem was played. Such act drew a lot of condemnations from a wide range of people except SOME blacks.
However there is no mention of CRT in most of the reports.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTmt1AUEsMw

For Rufo and in relation his mission as in in his tweet above, he would definitely strive to link such unprofessional acts [unpopular to most Americans] to its root in Critical Race Theory. I agree such an rebellious act is fundamentally a CRT thingy as reflected in the CRT ideology as represented in the various CRT books and principles.

[Veritas Aequitas]

He says so here:

The goal is to have the public read something crazy in the newspaper and immediately think "critical race theory." We have decodified the term and will recodify it to annex the entire range of cultural constructions that are unpopular with Americans. https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/statu ... 96352?s=20

You are really responding based on blatantly ignorance of the facts regarding Christopher Rufo.

Here is his website, show me what is the mostly 'supposed' rubbish you think he is peddling in relating to Critical Race Theory;
https://christopherrufo.com/

Here is one example of his exposure and get results;
(based on what is written, I agree with it in line with CRT theories, principles and activism strategies),

Yesterday, The Walt Disney Company responded to my reporting about its divisive “diversity and inclusion” program with a statement defending the company’s commitment to “inclusivity.” The statement was riddled with errors and evasions, as I noted on social media.

Today, multiple sources have told me that Disney has completely removed its diversity and inclusion program from the company’s website—effectively scrubbing it out of existence. My reporting had generated tens of millions of media impressions and a significant backlash from the public.
https://christopherrufo.com/disney-backs-down/

And here what is Disney doing with the Diversity Programs within infections of CRT elements that was exposed as CRT by Rufo;

I have obtained a trove of whistleblower documents related to Disney’s “diversity and inclusion” program, called “Reimagine Tomorrow,” which paints a disturbing picture of the company’s embrace of racial politics. Although the intention of the program might be noble, multiple Disney employees, who requested anonymity out of fear of reprisals, told me that the Reimagine Tomorrow program has become deeply politicized and engulfed parts of the company in racial conflict.

The core of Disney’s racial program is a series of training modules on “antiracism.” In one module, called “Allyship for Race Consciousness,” the company tells employees that they must “take ownership of educating [themselves] about structural anti-Black racism” and that they should “not rely on [their] Black colleagues to educate [them],” because it is “emotionally taxing.”

The United States, the document claims, has a “long history of systemic racism and transphobia”
and white employees, in particular, must “work through feelings of guilt, shame, and defensiveness to understand what is beneath them and what needs to be healed.”

Disney recommends that employees atone by “challeng[ing] colorblind ideologies and rhetoric” such as “All Lives Matter” and “I don’t see color”; they must “listen with empathy [to] Black colleagues” and must “not question or debate Black colleagues’ lived experience.”
https://christopherrufo.com/the-wokest-place-on-earth/

There is nothing wrong in Rufo callings a spade a spade, i.e. Disney's Diversity Program is CRT laden.

The point is organization often gets and pay specialist training consultant to handle their training programs and this is where the overzealous CRTists infiltrate into the organization to brainwash their employees.

[uwot]

You are really responding based on blatantly ignorance of the facts regarding Christopher Rufo.

No sir, I really am responding based on the stated aims of Christopher Rufo:

The goal is to have the public read something crazy in the newspaper and immediately think "critical race theory." We have decodified the term and will recodify it to annex the entire range of cultural constructions that are unpopular with Americans. https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/statu ... 96352?s=20

Here is his website, show me what is the mostly 'supposed' rubbish you think he is peddling in relating to Critical Race Theory; https://christopherrufo.com/

Well whaddya know? A right wing agitator whose stated "goal is to have the public read something crazy in the newspaper and immediately think "critical race theory."" sets up a website to achieve just that.
As for your other points, you know what? There are some tedious, self righteous bores, many of whom no doubt are well meaning and sincere, but who nonetheless talk utter bollocks when it comes to race. Again, Rufo's stated goal is to get the not very bright to associate the bollocks with CRT, exactly as you are doing. Christopher Rufo 1 - Veritas Aequitas 0.

[Veritas Aequitas]

Well whaddya know? A right wing agitator whose stated "goal is to have the public read something crazy in the newspaper and immediately think "critical race theory."" sets up a website to achieve just that.

This is real stupidity on your part after having been brainwashed thus your hasty generalization from confirmation bias.

You have lost your capacity to rationalize and take contexts into consideration.

This is typical fundy theists thinking, i.e. anything not in alignment with your belief, they are all false.

[uwot]

Well whaddya know? A right wing agitator whose stated "goal is to have the public read something crazy in the newspaper and immediately think "critical race theory."" sets up a website to achieve just that.

This is real stupidity on your part after having been brainwashed thus your hasty generalization from confirmation bias.

What is certainly stupid is to have someone tell you it is their intention to brainwash you and for you not only to let them, but to defend them.

You have lost your capacity to rationalize and take contexts into consideration.

What Rufo explicitly says he is doing is to take CRT out of it's proper academic context and paste it onto any issue with a remotely racial aspect.

This is typical fundy theists thinking, i.e. anything not in alignment with your belief, they are all false.

Grow up ffs.