the necessity of rights

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the necessity of rights

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If you have to owe or be owed that creates both inherent inequality and instability.

There is no way to create a long-term sustainable society without finding a balance where everyone has enough of everything and no one has too much of anything. Only then, when finances are made irrelevant, can we ever have peace.
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Advocate wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:50 pm If you have to owe or be owed that creates both inherent inequality and instability.
I don’t think so, but perhaps you can convince me that if you must be a debtor or a creditor, then that creates instability.
Advocate wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:50 pm There is no way to create a long-term sustainable society without finding a balance where everyone has enough of everything and no one has too much of anything.

It sounds as though you are saying that there’s no way to have a sustainable society without socialism. There are many who would consider your statement to be debatable at the least.
Advocate wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:50 pm Only then, when finances are made irrelevant, can we ever have peace.
Finances will never be irrelevant to humans nor to societies. Money is a placeholder for goods and services that are held relevant and valuable to human beings.
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Finances will never be irrelevant to humans nor to societies. Money is a placeholder for goods and services that are held relevant and valuable to human beings.
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Finances as they currently exist include needing to do work that is untethered from your skills and interests just as remuneration is untethered from value to society and spending power is untethered from production costs. Everything we understand about finances, economics, and currency today could be changed.
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Advocate wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:18 am
commonsense wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:48 pm Finances will never be irrelevant to humans nor to societies. Money is a placeholder for goods and services that are held relevant and valuable to human beings.
Finances as they currently exist include needing to do work that is untethered from your skills and interests just as remuneration is untethered from value to society and spending power is untethered from production costs. Everything we understand about finances, economics, and currency today could be changed.
Changed yes, irrelevant never.
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