Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 7:34 pm
RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 3:01 pm
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:49 pm
And capitalism is not going to sustain the poor.
Nothing is or ought to sustain anyone who does not work to produce what they need to live. The poor are poor because they refuse to do that--and have a million excuses for why they, "can't."
Only partly true, RC.
Certainly there are poor people who are poor by their own stupidity or laziness. And we owe them no indulgence at all, I agree. However, there are also the mentally ill, or the abused. They do get some of my sympathy. And most of the poor I know personally are "developing-world" poor, who are quite different.
So what? life is tough and some are born with defects that kill within the first few hours of birth, of before they ever become adults. Other have accidents that kill them, or become the victims of plagues, natural disasters, or famine.
But for every excuse anyone uses for their poverty, I know someone with the same, "disatvantages," who made a success of their life. I grew up with a boy who lost an arm and a leg. (A trolley car ran over them.) He was from a poor family, but became a successful business man.
Nothing prevents you, or anyone else, helping anyone you choose to, but to promote the idea anyone is obligated to, "help," others is wrong. If there is any virtue in helping others, any such virtue is lost if one's help springs from a sense of, "guilt," or, "duty," and not a genuine desire to be benevolent.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 7:34 pm
... last year, some of the folks were rained out in hurricanes and monsoons...they did nothing to deserve it, and are ordinary, decent folks who will work hard if you put something in their hands...but they, too, have no options.
Most of these supposed disasters blamed on, "nature," are really ignorance, and
it is not innocent ignorance. Most of the places where there are destructive floods, mudslides, tsunamies, and famines, the, "natural disasters," are perennial. They happen in the same places over and over again, and the idiots close their eyes to the evidence, hoping their God or nature will prevent the next flood or famine or that it just will not happen are, "surprised," when the inevitable does. It's always too late to fix that kind of problem when the event has already occurred, and of course they'll promptly forget it when it's over.