Advocate wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:50 pm
I do not conflate the scale of the universe with the scale within which authoritarianism resides and there is no reason to suppose so. Chaos v. authoritarianism is Earth-bound
He says he doesn't conflate scale and then he bounds chaos (THE UNIVERSE) to Earth.
You know that the universe is significantly larger than Earth, yea?
Advocate wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:50 pm
, and so the chaos i'm discussing is that within the sphere of influence of Earth.
Q.E.D you are discussing the universe in the context of Earth. That totally makes sense!
Not.
Advocate wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:50 pm
IF the authoritarianism was broader, my contentions would apply on a broader level.
Authoritarianism isn't broader. Authoritarianism is about as local as it gets. It's about Earth!
Chaos is broader! A lot broader! Chaos is about the ENTIRE UNIVERSE.
Advocate wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:50 pm
The scale-shifting going on here is not my own. Authoritarianism doesn't allow chaos by intent..
What do you mean "allow" chaos? In what universe do humans (authoritarians) allow the universe (CHAOS!!!) anything?
Advocate wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:50 pm
The whole point is to anti-chaos whatever it can. Whether and how or on what scale it is successful are very different questions. You can't simply switch arbitrarily back and forth between the theoretical and the practical and hope to have an intelligent conversation.
The theoretical (CHAOS THEORY) exists in service of the practical. When you adopt the language of chaos theory, I would reasonably expect you to be using the language for some practical purposes.
You haven't told me what those are yet.
Advocate wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:50 pm
"Authoritarian does not allow chaos" to the extent it has that power. You're conflating universals and particulars, theory and pragmatic application.
I am not conflating them. I am USING the language of Chaos theory for practical purposes for the purposes of interpreting/understanding reality as a chaotic system. It is a useful interpretation for very many practical purposes!