The Capitol building is breached by the Retrumplicans NOW!

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Belinda wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:20 am There was no need for Trump to lead an insurrection because the social conditions that cause dissatisfaction with the ruling regime and the intellectuals will not be going away until and unless there is a huge shift towards social equality in the US.

Unemployment, racism,certain excesses of capitalism such as American prisons, and lack of basic social welfare and health care for all at point of need, need to be addressed with great efficiency. If this is not done the mob will remain dissatisfied and look to a dictatorship to bring about change.

Trump is not such a fool that he does not know this. He will bide his time.
tillingborn wrote: Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:42 amDonald Trump is simply the GOP without the subtlety. When democrats pushed for voting reform earlier this year Trump said:“The things they had in there were crazy. They had things, levels of voting that if you’d ever agreed to it, you’d never have a Republican elected in this country again.” The GOP has a decision to make. Either it can broaden its appeal which would involve redistributing wealth in ways that would slow down corporate funding and alienate the rabid free marketeers they have courted, or go full on totalitarian. Trump has persuaded quite a lot of people to choose option B. Probably not enough, though; at least for now.
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Age wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:20 am
Walker wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 2:16 am
It is a Lie. A Big Lie. And like all Big Lies,
This sounds like words straight out of your "leader's" mouth. Are they?
- Rabbi Dov Fischer, Esq., is not "your leader."
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tillingborn wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:46 am
Walker wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:20 pm
tillingborn wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:20 pmSome of that is true, but you say "I'm bright enough know who the Big Guy is." You don't know who the Big Guy is, and you are not bright enough even to follow your own logic.
Joe Biden.
Again:
tillingborn wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:24 pmThe evidence is compelling, but not conclusive. You have jumped to a conclusion; that is why people like you don't make it through law school.
Walker wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:20 pmI'm not bound to your misunderstanding of logic.
Indeed, first you would have to escape your own misunderstanding.
You have to figure out the purpose of critical thinking.

It's not to twiddle your thumbs.
It's so you know when to pull the trigger.

Perhaps the Big Guy is a Pooka.
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Walker wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:33 pmYou have to figure out the purpose of critical thinking.

It's not to twiddle your thumbs.
It's so you know when to pull the trigger.
Spoken like a true Marxist. As it says on his gravestone: "The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it."
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tillingborn wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:54 pm
Walker wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:33 pmYou have to figure out the purpose of critical thinking.

It's not to twiddle your thumbs.
It's so you know when to pull the trigger.
Spoken like a true Marxist. As it says on his gravestone: "The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it."
Only in your twisted thinking.

The point of knowing when to pull the trigger is knowing when to take action.

Everyone takes action.

As much as the actionless, fence sitting philosophy appeals to some, no one can twiddle forever, because circumstances shake the fence at some point and force a balancing action.

In an intellectual realm, which is all this is rightcheer, action means ... naming the Big Guy.

I say there's nothing to that because to Hunter, the Big Guy is a Pooka, and in your world of relativism, who can possibly say that's not correct?
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Here’s an industrious writer who has assembled details and facts into an easy to read format.

The tech monopolies have sprung into action
By Andrea Widburg
American Thinker
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/20 ... ction.html

On Friday, although President Trump is still President of the United States, Twitter officially and permanently banned him from the site. The other media sites were not far behind. Indeed, they’re systematically banning anyone associated with Trump’s contention that there was election fraud. Moreover, they’re doing so by erasing Trump’s actual words in order to present him as a vicious agitator. They’re also erasing the more than half a million peaceful supporters in D.C. to focus only on a small cohort.

On Wednesday, more than half a million peaceful people showed up in D.C. to support President Trump. A minute percentage of that group ended up in the Capitol and the police killed an unarmed Air Force veteran. (Defund the Police has been silent about this killing.) Debate will rage about whether Trump supporters were set up. For the purposes of this post, the only thing that matters is that it was the justification the tech monopolies needed to start a purge.

The tech companies contend that Trump instigated violence and his supporters can no longer be trusted. And no, it doesn’t matter that for much of 2020, Black Lives Matter and Antifa rioted, burned, looted, and threatened, beat, and murdered people. Not only did they stay on social media, but they were also lionized on social media and mainstream media for their thrilling, empowering exploits.

Trump did not instigate violence. The tech tyrants have systematically deleted Trump’s words and the search engines will not help you find them, but you can, with difficulty, discover what he said on January 6:

We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated. I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard. (Emphasis mine.)

After the day’s events, Trump was clear:

I know your pain. I know you’re hurt. We had an election that was stolen from us. It was a landslide election and everyone knows it, especially the other side. But you have to go home now. We have to have peace. We have to have law and order. We have to respect our great people in law and order. We don’t want anybody hurt. It’s a very tough period of time. There’s never been a time like this where such a thing happened where they could take it away from all of us–from me, from you, from our country. This was a fraudulent election, but we can’t play into the hands of these people. We have to have peace. So go home. We love you. You’re very special. You’ve seen what happens. You see they way others are treated that are so bad and so evil. I know how you feel. But go home. And go home in peace.

Twitter and Facebook deleted the video and locked Trump out.

Having erased facts so they could claim Trump incited violence, the tech monopolies were set. To date, this is the purge, in chronological order, all predicated on Trump “promoting violence”:

Believe it or not, it started with Pence unfollowing Trump on Twitter.

Zuckerberg personally banned Trump from Facebook.

Snapchat locked Trump’s account.

Shopify removed Trump’s organization and campaign store.

Michelle Obama called on all tech companies to ban President Trump.

Facebook deleted the Walk Away movement page, including 500,000 Walk Away testimonials.

Twitter banned General Flynn.

Twitter banned Sidney Powell.

Google’s YouTube terminated Steve Bannon’s War Room podcast while 500,000 were watching in real-time.

Twitter permanently banned President Trump’s personal account.

The Gateway Pundit says that Twitter banned hundreds, perhaps thousands, of other lesser-known sites that challenged election results.

The Trump campaign's email service has banned the campaign from its platform.

Twitter deleted the official President of the United States account (@POTUS)

At this point, some might be thinking that a lot of people have said for a long time that conservatives should leave those hostile, censorious platforms. There are free speech alternatives, most notably Parler (a Twitter alternative), Me-We (a Facebook alternative), Gab (another Twitter alternative), and Rumble (a YouTube alternative). Considering that we are the product, why in the world were we giving ourselves away for free?

And finally, on Friday, Trump apparently did go to Parler. The tech giants, though, were ready. Because Parler is a bulletin board, not a publisher, it does not moderate “parleys.” Google has therefore removed Parler from the App store for “user safety.” Apple is threatening to do the same unless Parler starts acting like the other tech companies and censors speech Democrats find offensive. Amazon is also making noises about deplatforming Parler.

This is what happens when private enterprise becomes the town square. It seemed to make sense in a time when the mainstream media was manifestly biased. It never occurred to people that the tech corporations would be just as biased, only with even more power. We currently have a situation in all the President has no avenues of communication because corporations have silenced him. Joseph McCarthy was a piker compared to today’s Democrats.
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Walker wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 1:14 pmIn an intellectual realm, which is all this is rightcheer, action means ... naming the Big Guy.
Which part of this do you not understand?
tillingborn wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:24 pmThe evidence is compelling, but not conclusive. You have jumped to a conclusion; that is why people like you don't make it through law school.
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At this point, some might be thinking that a lot of people have said for a long time that conservatives should leave those hostile, censorious platforms. There are free speech alternatives, most notably Parler (a Twitter alternative), Me-We (a Facebook alternative), Gab (another Twitter alternative), and Rumble (a YouTube alternative). Considering that we are the product, why in the world were we giving ourselves away for free?

various platforms have been suspendin' & bannin' for a looong time...the owners/operators of these private enterprises can do that...our side needs to stop kvetchin' and walk away from 'em...our side shoulda walked away four, five, six years ago

now, what these owners/operators ought not be allowed to do is advertise themselves as neutral outlets...if they skew in a certain direction, they ought to market their service with that in mind

here, at twitbook, we believe X: if you find X unappealing, then we're not the platform for you

and: they enjoy certain protections that they ought not...if I slander or libel, or act as conduit fur slander or libel, my keister might very well be held accountable...these owner/operators ought be held liable, as conduits, as well

on a related note: much ado is made about these platforms directin' elections by way of what the owner/operators allow and don't allow to be published on their sites...if we recognize them for what they are (not free speech alleys but conduits for a particular skew) this is not a problem, especially if truth in advertisin' is invoked and these owner/operators are obligated, up-front & plainly, to declare themselves and their services as skewed

here, at twitbook, we support candidate/legislation X: opposition to candidate/legislation X will not be entertained

as aside, everything I'm sayin' here about all these social platforms applies to all news outlets too...these conduits, print, broadcast, electronic, are not, never have been, never will be neutral, and -- despite vaunted journalistic ethics -- they aren't obligated to be...the 1st safeguards freedom of the press, it doesn't obligate the press owner to be objective, neutral, or fair

man as product: we are product, commodity, instrument, if we allow it...recognize this and don't allow it
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I do so like that "Twitbook" :lol: ! Did you make that up yourself?
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Belinda wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:11 pm I do so like that "Twitbook" :lol: ! Did you make that up yourself?
yes...I'm currently caffeinated & nicotinized, in just the right balance, to be creative
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Here at Twitbook we are a private enterprise guided by profit. Our advertisers give us money to publish what they approve of.
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commonsense wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:28 pm Here at Twitbook we are a private enterprise guided by profit. Our advertisers give us money to publish what they approve of.
yes, this too

recognize this

if possible: make the owners fess up to it, up-front & plainly

there's no damn reason to kvetch about it
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“Ayatollah can tweet, but Trump can’t”

- Lindsey Graham

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Those who make that so determine what is heard.
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Walker wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:02 pm “Ayatollah can tweet, but Trump can’t”

- Lindsey Graham

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Those who make that so determine what is heard.
It's not by accident the media oligarchs are cutting off Trump. He was exposing what they were doing, and threatening to break up their monopolies on each of the three major media sources. No way were they going to sit still for that.

The absurd thing is that the "middle grounders" in the House still apparently imagine that the media will be their friend, and will never turn on them. But the oligarchs are off the leash now, it would seem. Do their plans stop at getting Democrats elected? Why would they?
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Immanuel Can wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:05 pm
Walker wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:02 pm “Ayatollah can tweet, but Trump can’t”

- Lindsey Graham

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Those who make that so determine what is heard.
It's not by accident the media oligarchs are cutting off Trump. He was exposing what they were doing, and threatening to break up their monopolies on each of the three major media sources. No way were they going to sit still for that.

The absurd thing is that the "middle grounders" in the House still apparently imagine that the media will be their friend, and will never turn on them. But the oligarchs are off the leash now, it would seem. Do their plans stop at getting Democrats elected? Why would they?
seems to me: ORANGE MAN was self-hobbled by that, to some extent, too

he recognized them as enemy, but courted 'em anyway

it was a mistake on his part

he didn't need 'em

even now, after bein' ousted from platforms, his has options for communicatin' (W listed some in his big ass post up-thread)

today: *they can't stop the signal, mal









*no-prize to the one who names the show, the character, the context
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