Skip wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:06 am
gaffo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:26 am
and why i have been a registered Independant thouugh Libertarian minded.
The Libertarian Party has moved too far to the Right post Iraqnam, so while they and i were in accord 20 yrs ago - we no longer are sadly.
Good. Stay away from them - they're only woefully, illogically, pigheadedly wrong now, but soon they'll be fascist. The fascists will gobble up all the right wingnut parties, fraternities and fellow travelers, even if they can't take over the GOOP.
Independent is okay as a position, but your vote will never count.
"independant" just means the 2 (1) party fix is in ans so "none of the above = independant.
in the ideal America we would have 3-6 viable parties, so the Greens and Libertarians would have 10-20 percent of the populations (as the Progressives did 120 yrs ago). we did have the Reform (perot) party - but it was a vanity project via Perot and had no actual platform.
there is the extreme right Constitution Party, but it is smaller than the Greens and in the 15 since it formed the Republican party moved ot where they are and so the Constitution Party has become near extinct - toug never more than 1-pecent - now 1/100th of a percent.
as for the Libertarians, i view myself as a liberal libertarian - fully affirm the view that the Bill of Rights were written to protect the individual from the Gov/Mob rule, and affirm Jury Nullification/Jury Pardon (and Lysander Spooner's view on the matter) - as a power as a person to judge the accused per your conscince and to ignore the law they violated if you thinkt he law is wrong (i.e. like in the case of fugitiv slave laws 150 yrs ago - drug laws today).
i breaks my heart that the Libertarian party in 15 short yrs moved from condeming Bush jr for his illgal occupation of Iraq, to now affirming rumpinaism.
I guess i am like one of those Soccer Mom Republcan's who's party left them behind - only my Libertarin party never med up more than 2-percent so not huge nbiggi if it leaves me.
i did vote for Ron Paul in 88 for pres. he was/is a good man and he and agree on most stuff - scially, not economically - his son though is a shit and no libertarian - he is full bore rieichug.
Cuddows to Justin Amash, i noted him in the hearings last years BTW to Cowen, and noted he left his Reich party to reg is a libertarian - michingan congressman - did he loose this time around? (i've not heard - i suspect he did - i like his character - hope tope to see him in the future).
thanks for reply!
there is only one REpubican i respect - Ben Sasse - noted hin these last 4 yrs - he played pussy during impeachment aso failed in not voting with Rmney - but otherwise he seems to affirm the same principls i do - though a tricklown republican ;-/.