Re: Does the positive side of tribalism/racism outshine the negative side?
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:51 pm
Trade instead of kill. That is what history has taught us. No?Age wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:19 amYou will have to argue, soundly and validly, and thus prove that there is a, so called, "positive side" first before this could be answered, properly and correctly.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:25 pm Does the positive side of tribalism/racism outshine the negative side?
Is there ANY actual EVIDENCE and PROOF that there is a, so called, "selfish gene's love bias of tribalism and racism for 'our' own kind and color", or is this just an attempt at "justifying" your ALREADY held beliefs and views?Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:25 pm The moment we follow our selfish gene’s love bias of tribalism and racism for our own kind and color, we create a hate bias for all other kinds and colors.
So, according to this "logic" EVERY human being is born with, so called, "negative racism", correct?Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:25 pm Negative racism is born in us from our love of our own kind and color. It is natural and normal for the human species.
How does a new born baby differentiate between kind and color?
The more I look into what you say the MORE ABSURD it is Truly becoming. But, you MAYBE able to CLARIFY and answer my clarifying questions sufficiently. We will just have to wait and see.
When you say 'we' here, do you mean EVERY individual?
If no, then what do you mean?
Well 'i' MUST NOT BE a part of 'Nature', Itself. As i have it another way. i do NOT think of thy 'self' as the best at all. i think of thy 'self' as just an EQUAL one as EVERY other one IS.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:25 pm It follows that nature would have it no other way for us as individual animals but to think of ourselves as the best.
Maybe so, 'us' as thee collective ONE maybe the, so called, 'best', BUT NO individual 'one' is better than another individual 'one'.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:25 pm Nature always creates for the best possible end and for each of us and our genetic line, something like us is the best.
But WHY would be, so called, "hell"? Especially as you say this is Nature and that we are born this way.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:25 pm Tribalism/racism has a dual nature. Good parts and evil parts. Mostly good but it is hell when the uglier negative racist side is in play.
Also, WHY would Nature create what is, so called, "ugly"?
What is 'ugly' to 'you' is NOT necessarily 'ugly' to "another".
I would say that 'you' are racist just because you were taught to hate "others" and/or see "others" as different races.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:25 pm We are racist because we know that reality favors the survival of the fittest.
Also, you seem to have taken the term 'survival of the fittest' and twisted it around in a very particular way, which you BELIEVE "supports" your ALREADY held views and beliefs.
But if you say EVERY individual is born the fittest, then how could there be any that are 'unfit'?Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:25 pm That is what we are in our genetic lines; even the most unfit of us, when compared to the average or above average.
"Heading", I think you are a bit LATE.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:25 pm We mostly negatively express our tribalism/racism with violence, even to war and rebellion. The less profitable way to gain the upper hand as compared to trading. Check human history.
We are heading for violence in the U.S thanks to the oppression of too many groups.
Considering that you have just, ONCE AGAIN, shown your racist views, as though they are perfectly acceptable, then I do NOT see racism, in all forms ending very soon.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:25 pm Blacks, natives, women, gays and all other groups that are oppressed unjustly are beginning to unite into a large group that will no longer be cowed.
If you BELIEVE and SEE that we MUST "live in tribes", then you are COMPLETELY and UTTERLY MISSING the True and Right perspective of things here.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:25 pm If nothing changes after peaceful means are tried, violence is bound to happen.
We must live in tribes as we are not in any way born free. That is the good part of tribalism, even as it holds the evil racism part within.
Believing that there are SEPARATE groups is EVIL, in its MOST WRONG form.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:25 pm The evil part is using violence against those who are not in our own in groups.
LOL You could NOT even begin to define 'white' in ANY true, right, nor correct way. As will be PROVEN by your INABILITY to even start doing this here now.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:25 pm That is of course what we whites have been doing to non-whites for a long time now in North America.
If you SEE 'tribes' and 'colors', then you are BLINDED to thee actual Truth of things.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:25 pm It is good to be tribal and loyal to our colors and tribes.
Placing human beings into colors and/or tribes is FOOLISH in the highest form.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:25 pm It is foolish to not have the battle of the colors not shift to acceptance instead of hating others and bringing violence to all.
This is so DISTORTED it is getting beyond complete ridiculousness now.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:25 pm Black to white, all our own genetic lines, have shown that they too are the fittest for their color.
What do you think 'you', human beings, are "competing" for, EXACTLY?Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:25 pm To kill or trade are the only ways to take advantage of each other in terms of control. Good competition without killing or oppressing each other is the ethical way forwards.
How does a 'tribe' COMPETE, peacefully?Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:25 pm I see this as what being civilized is all about, and the best way for tribes, black to white, to co-exist in peace.
You?
Regards
DL
Traditionally, we compete for resources and women.
"This is so DISTORTED it is getting beyond complete ridiculousness now."
Do you not see yourself as the fittest of your line? Why not?
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DL