Bidon is Senile

[gaffo]

I read your earlier reply about Reagan not being senile until out of office, and Veg's reply to you. I value objectivity, and will state Veg IMO is correct and you are wrong in this particular.

Well, aren’t you the fact checker without a sense of context or meaning.

Well i do value the Rule of Law, so that means i champion the letter of it.

why i affirm Trial by Combat is still legal in the US

why i affirm right to revolution - affirmed in the NH State Constitution

why i affirm the right of jury pardon/nullification....a right affirmed by the First Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court John Jay (and by President Madison too) - the former a signatory of the British surrender to the Americans in the treaty that ended the War of Independence...................in spite of the 230 yr war by the US judiciary since that time to make Judy Pardon illegal-void.

If Reagan was in Biden’s current condition when Reagan was running for office, he would not have been elected.

not so, Reagan in 84 is where Bidon is now. only reason Reagan got elected was becuase of his prior term.

If Biden ran in 2016 i think he would have beaten Trump, and we would be re-electing Bidon with no problem (other than he and reagon were no longer fit for the office) - but it would be a shoe in regardless due to the prior term of office.

Reagan gets shot in the chest. When taken to the ER he looks around at the staff … and then he looks at his wife for prompting? No, I don’t think so.

He says to the staff, all on his own, without prompting or coaching or a focus group, “I just hope you’re Republicans.”

That’s character, gaffo. Reagan had it.

Biden does not.

I never said Reagan had no character, i like the guy myself, just did not agree with his politics in 1980 (at 69 i thought he was fully able then too be my president). I liked him in 84 and 88 too. but no longer thought he as able to sit in that chair due to senility.

as for Bidon, i personally allways like the man (maybe you didn't - if so i like to know your views as to why not). I REALLY wanted him to run in 2016 (is son died and he decided not to - instead we got the bitch billary). Biden if 16 is not the Biden of today (same with Reagan (why you think i did not like Reagan's Character throws me for a loop (I do not judge one's character by thier political views - my best friend of 20 yrs is as far right politically (and uber christian) as one can be! - he thinks i a commie just for being a registered independant athiest that usually votes for the dems. he and i except we are on opposties sides politically (and religiously!) - but we have the same character - good characters both of us - and that all that matters.

that is why i personally include character of the man or woman running for president when i concider voting for them. I 84, i deemed both Mondale and Reagan of equally good character and voted for the one more in line with my politics.

as stated in a prior reply i did not think Bill Clinton had character (I liked Songas in the dem primary - he lost to Clinton). I thought Ron Paul had character and i like his views, i was wrong about George SR (my anti-republican bias blinded me) - i;ve since re-essed SR and think he was a good man and good president and should have won re-election.

peace Sir.

[gaffo]

Biden isn't senile...

Well, what's very clear is that he's a man way, way past his cognitive prime. I've got a genuine feeling of sympathy for him; I think he's a victim here. The Democrats are pushing him into the spotlight, and he's a obviously man not strong enough to stand at a podium, or to remember basic facts. That's truly cruel.

I can't believe they couldn't find a better candidate, or that they would care so little for him as to push him, in his frailty, into the meat-grinder of politics to be humiliated. What are they thinking? Doesn't anybody care for this man?

I agree its sad to see, i feel for the guy. I have scorn for the DNC operatives who not having thier darling Kamala win decided thier fear of Bernie was too great to allow him to win, so called on the soldiers Pete/Klobichar/ and shortly after Bloomburg to fall on thier swords to corronate a man that has no chance to win the general.

my greatest scorn is toward Biden's wife! only an evil heart would incourage a spouse in mental decline to run of the presidency.

[gaffo]

Hmmm.

You forget...I'm not a Trumpist or a Democrat. I'm not even American.

What I'm trying to say is only that I have genuine sympathy for this man who is being set up for abuse and humiliation by his "handlers." I wouldn't want that to happen to anyone.

agreed and i'm only 2 of the 3 you are - i am an american of course.

[gaffo]

Hmmm.

You forget...I'm not a Trumpist or a Democrat. I'm not even American.

What I'm trying to say is only that I have genuine sympathy for this man who is being set up for abuse and humiliation by his "handlers." I wouldn't want that to happen to anyone.

I know you are fond of saying such things. But you are noticably reluctant to apply the same standards to persons of the right wing persuasion that you do to those of the other side. So you won't recognise that Trump is at least as senile as Biden. Trump is a rambling old man who misspeaks often.

Trump is in mental decline, but not as much as Bidon.

[gaffo]

So you won't recognise that Trump is at least as senile as Biden. Trump is a rambling old man who misspeaks often.

He does. But not like Biden. Trump's a showman, a media creature, a chameleon...or as Henry says, a "hand grenade". But Joe Biden's genuinely confused, genuinely lost, and has an increasingly volatile and incoherent temper. Put him on stage with Trump, and I'm certain it will become starkly clear who has control of the situation, and who is genuinely in distress.

agreed.

it over, 4.5 more years of rump.....................all because "Bernies a commie"

so be it. ;-(.

[gaffo]

Reagan also had friends.

At the end of his tenure, when he experienced early signs of dementia, he was allowed to leave the public stage with dignity. He wrote a letter of thanks to the American people, bowed, and went off home. Nobody hauled him back into the spotlight, and he was allowed to die privately, and to be remembered for his better years.

But the Democrats are, for some political advantage they imagine, forcing poor old Joe Biden to stay the course and expose himself to the inevitable humiliation of falling apart in public, in slow motion, while the nation watches.

Now, just how is that a moral thing to do?

Are you saying that Trmp is more ethical than the Democrats? Or did you not intend to imply so?

Well, not "Trump," per se, obviously...he wasn't even in politics when Ronald Reagan was president.

Rather, I'm saying that whoever took care of Ronald Reagan at the end of his time in office did the right thing for an aging politician who was slipping...they helped him go out with his dignity. But whoever is "taking care of" Joe Biden is clearly not looking to his best interests, but to something else.

agreed. Obama (sadly a sellout to Corps/Special interests/lobbyists) was/is a good man IMO (ya "The system beat corrupted him" (maybe it does all even if Jesus was elected - sad thought but maybe true) said to Biden (several tmes) "Joe you do not need to do this" - i.e run for the presidency.

why would Obama say this?

well............prob because he is his friend and saw his mind going in the latter half of Obama's second term and did not wish for his friend to humiliate himself (this is what i think).

for whatever reason Biden did not take Obama's council sadly. ;-/.

there is also a reason Obama to date has not endorsed Biden.

why?

"because Obama is a dick!!!!!"

no not why

why?

"because Obama cares about our country and has honest and serious reservations as to whether Biden is up to the job to serving and protecting the nation we all love.

that is why!

I'm sure it hurts Biden that his friend Obama has not endorsed him - and vise versa!

but sometime duty hurts folks you love/call friends.

[Immanuel Can]

my greatest scorn is toward Biden's wife! only an evil heart would incourage a spouse in mental decline to run of the presidency.

Well, who knows how much mental acuity she has, at the moment? She's got to be about his age, so maybe it's not her fault. But his other handlers, well, what they're doing is betraying him.

Not nice.

[gaffo]

the Democrats are, for some political advantage they imagine, forcing poor old Joe Biden to stay the course and expose himself to the inevitable humiliation of falling apart in public, in slow motion, while the nation watches.

It's just to blunt Bernie. The old guard in the party (elected, appointed, and in the DNC) aren't ready to openly, with purpose, back a naked, bold socialist. Mebbe in '24, or '28, but not in '20.

Biden is safe (moderate [relative to Bernie], controllable). His loss to Trump is survivable.

If Bernie loses to Trump the damage is profound, forcin' a redirectin' of the party (which ain't gonna happen) or a diminishment of the party (which is intolerable).

They want Bernie, but understand AMURICA isn't ready for full-blown socialism.

you are 100 percent correct - until the last sentence.

"they (THE DNC MECHINE) DO NOT want Bernie".....you said it yourself above! His(Biden) loss to Trump is survivable


America - the people "Might" elect Sanders in the general - after knowing his character and platform (if willing to not think socialism = cuba - rather than denmark). Sanders would have had a decent shot in the general - he is likeable, sharp and not too kooky (ya he a leftie - but if likeable some vothers like me who value likeability will vote for the more likeable candidate even if the platform is off). I think he was the strongest dem candidate against trump.

but we will never know now if he could have won. The DBC machine has corronated Biden come hell or high water.

[gaffo]

DNC orders to Biden.

select Kamala Harris for VP!

mark my prediction.

around June or so.

[gaffo]

my greatest scorn is toward Biden's wife! only an evil heart would incourage a spouse in mental decline to run of the presidency.

Well, who knows how much mental acuity she has, at the moment? She's got to be about his age, so maybe it's not her fault. But his other handlers, well, what they're doing is betraying him.

Not nice.

she around 12 yr younger give for take a year - too lazy to look it up.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

He's had a lot of tragedy in his life.

[FlashDangerpants]

DNC orders to Biden.

select Kamala Harris for VP!

mark my prediction.

around June or so.

Your prediction huh?
Plenty of other people can lay claim to that one without the shitehousery of the whole "DNC orders Biden" bit there.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... ked-134256

[gaffo]

He's had a lot of tragedy in his life.

I know, he lost his wife and at least one child? in a car accident (I've know about this for a around a decade - but not sure of details - i know he lost at least his first wife - i think at least one child too - correct me it i'm wrong on the latter - unlike a few, i welcome correction/clarification.

I like Bidon (ya he's arrogant - but for me i always liked him in spite off) - and in spite of his arrogance, i assume he was devestated by the death of his wife (and child? if no child - Veg educate me on the the no child).

As said before I always like Joe - and supported him in primaries years ago and though he'd make a good enough prez, now i honestly do not think he has the mental stamina to be pres (i.e. that chair require responsibiltiy/charater/judgment - Joe has character, but i fear no longer has judgement due to dementia.

thats just my take.

at just my opinion, of course i will vote for him between two unworthies - rump and old joe - only sad that the more able Sanders will not be on the ballot.

sadly either way America is fucked ;-(. I know you hate America (ya colonialism - i know my history - Porto Rico, Guam, Philipenes - the temptations/sins of Empire (Spain/Farnce/England) also shared the same sins.

but as an American, i do love my Nation - as you do England in your way via NZ - just sayin.

thanks for reply, and all the best - sincerely.

[gaffo]

DNC orders to Biden.

select Kamala Harris for VP!

mark my prediction.

around June or so.

Your prediction huh?
Plenty of other people can lay claim to that one without the shitehousery of the whole "DNC orders Biden" bit there.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... ked-134256

whatever.

I first hear of Kamala in the last election - 16. she is a "darling" of the lib machine.

is she not?

i note your condescension.

which means two things:

1. I'm wrong and the machine does not like Kamala - and you are schooling me in my error.

2. you are just a dick and like to play troll, suspect i'm correct, but more troll than man, like to disparage me when you know i'm probably right.

- i've not bothered to check your link, depending upon your reply as to if you are 1 or 2 above, i may check it.

peace.

[FlashDangerpants]

1. I'm wrong and the machine does not like Kamala - and you are schooling me in my error.

2. you are just a dick and like to play troll, suspect i'm correct, but more troll than man, like to disparage me when you know i'm probably right.

- i've not bothered to check your link, depending upon your reply as to if you are 1 or 2 above, i may check it.

peace.

You can think of me as you like. I am not in the business of spending much time on other people's paranoid delusions. All you Bernie Bros with your talk of "the machine" think that Bernie could only lose the nomination because of some conspiracy. That's bullshit, two facts explain exactly why Bernie was always destined to come second in the nomination, and would automatically be beaten by whoever was left.
1. Bernie comes with a baked in 30% of the national primary vote among Democrats.
2. Bernie does nothing to win new voters or build coalitions, or even to persuade anyone that doesn't already agree with him. So as every candidate dropped out, none of their voters switched to Bernie.

Click the link or don't. It explains the electoral pros and cons of a number of potential running mates that Biden could choose between. But sensible political commentary doesn't help much if you are going to overlay everything with paranoia and self pity anyway.