ENOCH POWELL WAS RIGHT

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Re: ENOCH POWELL WAS RIGHT

Post by Dachshund » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:25 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:55 pm



Kindest Regards


It's only idiotic so-called 'Western' cultures (the ones that have become beholden to the dictatorial PC virus) like Irish and English and much of Europe that will disappear for good.

White/European Western culture was the greatest culture that ever existed in the entire 6000 years history of human civilization.

It is now being rapidly destroyed by socialism. Postmodernism, multiculturalism, neo-Marxism, political correctness, LGBTI, the push for equity (equality of outcome Identity Politics, moral relativism, big government and the bloated Welfare State, social justice, etc are all poison fruit from the same tree - SOCIALISM.

And that tree was planted in the garden of Western civilisation on the day women were given the vote. That was the most fatal blunder the West ever made in its 1000 year history. Despite the lesson we should have heeded from history going all the way back to the ancient Greeks, then through the middle ages, the Renaissance, the Scientific Revolution, the Enlightenment, the Industrial Revolution, warning that no SANE Western society has ever, for a moment, seriously contemplated allowing women to vote or participate in government in the 20th century we thought we knew better. Now we are reaping the bitter harvest. The West is now in a state of terminal decline and it all going to end in a VERY ugly way.

You can understand it like this...

1. Women in the US, UK, Australia, Canada, Western European nations get given the vote in the late 19th/early 20th centuries.

2. Women instinctively tend to vote for the Left, i.e. SOCIALISM (because its all caring and sharing and full of brotherly - and - sisterly love and equality for all, and "peace not war" and women's liberation)

3. This eventually (by around the mid-20th century) gave socialist parties in the West, like the US Democrats, a huge "shot in the arm." They soon became too powerful; big government and big Welfare States steadily became the norm.

4. But socialism is pure poison, wherever it gains a foothold in a human society it DESTROYS everything of value, everything worthwhile.This is a proven FACT.

That's all I've got to say on the matter.


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Re: ENOCH POWELL WAS RIGHT

Post by vegetariantaxidermy » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:10 am

Blah blah blah...............

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Re: ENOCH POWELL WAS RIGHT

Post by Dachshund » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:05 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:10 am
Blah blah blah...............
A very intelligent rebuttal, I must say, Vegetable !

Hitler said that women should confine their activity to three domains only: "Kinder, Kuche und Kirsch" (KKK). That's German for "Children, Kitchen and Church." I'm not a Nazi, but I have to admit the Fuhrer was dead right on that score !! You'd do well to take his advice, Vegetable !!




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PS: Still waiting for your reply re Enoch Powell ??!! :D Haw, Haw, Haw !!

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Re: ENOCH POWELL WAS RIGHT

Post by vegetariantaxidermy » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:53 pm

Dachshund wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:33 am
[quote=vegetariantaxidermy post_id=415869 time=1562909916 user_id=8006


Large numbers of doctors recruited from India and Pakistan, encouraged by health minister Enoch Powell in the early 1960s, also played a key role in the establishment of the NHS health service.''

Well what do ya know? Your really are an ass (and an arse).



Dear Vegetable,


You really should check your facts before you open your mouth; if you don't what tends to happen it that you will end up talking shit and people will lose respect for your views. They will think that you really are an ass (arse).



What you have said above about Enoch Powell is false. The allegation that he encouraged Indian, West Indian and Pakistani immigration to staff the NHS is spread across the internet by his leftist detractors, by Liberal Luvvies and socialist scum in the academy who seek to portray Powell as inconsistent with respect to what was his uniformly strong stance on immigration in the "Rivers of Blood" speech (1968) and throughout the years before and after that speech. But all socialists are liars and scoundrels, they have to be in order to defend their support of a political ideology that is not only profound flawed in the sense of being irrational, but is also evil. If ever you wish to dispute this with me, please feel free, girlie. There's nothing I enjoy more than publicly crucifying a socialist. :D



The primary source of the notion that Enoch Powell encouraged non-white (West Indian, Pakistani, etc) immigration to staff the British NHS during the time he was Minister for Health (1960 - 1963) in Harold MacMillan's government is article written by a woman called Ruth Brown entitled "Racism and Multiculturalism", and you'll never guess where it was published (!) - a journal called "International Socialism" (a political "Bible" for dickheads). Brown's article is nothing but propaganda masquerading as an academic paper. Here is what Ms Brown said about Powell in her piece...



"In the early 1960's (in Britain) government ministers, as well as private employers, started to recruit directly in the West Indies. These included Enoch Powell who actively encouraged the migration of medical staff from India and the West Indies during his time as Minister for Health."



No source/s are provided by Brown for this claim and there is nothing that exists in ANY existing government records to substantiate it. It is pure fabrication, pure bullshit, but because it is being used to discredit Powell, the left immediately presumed it was true and you will find the lie repeated on countless internet website (like the one you blundered onto looking for dirt to ditch against Powell).



The truth about Enoch Powell and his involvement with non-white immigration into the British NHS while he was Minister for Health can be found in Hansard, as follows....



* Mr Sydney Bidwell (Ealing, Southall)

I do not disagree with the Right Honourable Gentleman's historical narrative, but he must accept the responsibility, which he appears to deny, for recruiting medical staff during 1960 to 1963 when he was the successful Minister for Health. He recruited doctors from the subcontinent and nurses from the West Indies.

RESPONSE: * Mr Enoch Powell (South Down)

The Honourable Gentleman feels that my activities are inconsistent with the opinions I express now (i.e; anti-immigration) - and which I have expressed for many years since the dimensions of the problem became visible ...When the books are opened it will be found that, until July 1962 as a member of the government, I strongly supported the measure taken to introduce such a possibility of control (on the entry of British subjects into the UK) by the Commonwealth Immigration Act, and that I argued persistently for the narrowest possible use of the available scope for immigration under the 1962 Act. The honourable Gentleman knows very well, and can confirm, that the vast majority of those recruited during these years into the NHS, not just among British Subjects from the Commonwealth, but among aliens - which is very relevant to the point - came to Britain for short periods of time to obtain training that they put into effect elsewhere. The Honourable Gentleman is finally aware THAT THE MINISTER for HEALTH HAS AT NO TIME BEEN THE RECRUITING AUTHORITY FOR STAFF IN THE NHS.

(Hansard 11/11/1982)



Pay particular attention to the last sentence of Enoch Powell's reply, make sure it sinks into your tiny brain.



Now, I could go on quoting Hansard (i.e. the TRUTH of what really went down) to show you what an ill-informed, stupid, little Kunt you are; if you'd like me to do so, please say. There's a shitload of it.


Finally, Enoch Powell was a brilliant man both as a scholar and as a politician. He was, sadly, the greatest Prime Minister Britain never had. Whereas today's generation of politicians in the West- people like your own Prime Minister in NZ are just 3rd-rate clowns- Enoch Powell was, in every way- a class act (Something I doubt you'd understand)



Kindest Regards

Der Uberweiner WOOF WOOF
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England has got exactly what it deserves. Shouldn't have gone around attacking other people's countries (and it's still at it).
Can't wait to see London's name changed to Londamabad.

pssst. You are making a dog's arse of the posts because you are too much of a retarded fuckturd to use the quote function properly.

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Re: ENOCH POWELL WAS RIGHT

Post by vegetariantaxidermy » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:06 pm

Dachshund wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:33 am
[quote=vegetariantaxidermy post_id=415869 time=1562909916 user_id=8006


Large numbers of doctors recruited from India and Pakistan, encouraged by health minister Enoch Powell in the early 1960s, also played a key role in the establishment of the NHS health service.''

Well what do ya know? Your really are an ass (and an arse).



Dear Vegetable,


You really should check your facts before you open your mouth; if you don't what tends to happen it that you will end up talking shit and people will lose respect for your views. They will think that you really are an ass (arse).



What you have said above about Enoch Powell is false. The allegation that he encouraged Indian, West Indian and Pakistani immigration to staff the NHS is spread across the internet by his leftist detractors, by Liberal Luvvies and socialist scum in the academy who seek to portray Powell as inconsistent with respect to what was his uniformly strong stance on immigration in the "Rivers of Blood" speech (1968) and throughout the years before and after that speech. But all socialists are liars and scoundrels, they have to be in order to defend their support of a political ideology that is not only profound flawed in the sense of being irrational, but is also evil. If ever you wish to dispute this with me, please feel free, girlie. There's nothing I enjoy more than publicly crucifying a socialist. :D



The primary source of the notion that Enoch Powell encouraged non-white (West Indian, Pakistani, etc) immigration to staff the British NHS during the time he was Minister for Health (1960 - 1963) in Harold MacMillan's government is article written by a woman called Ruth Brown entitled "Racism and Multiculturalism", and you'll never guess where it was published (!) - a journal called "International Socialism" (a political "Bible" for dickheads). Brown's article is nothing but propaganda masquerading as an academic paper. Here is what Ms Brown said about Powell in her piece...



"In the early 1960's (in Britain) government ministers, as well as private employers, started to recruit directly in the West Indies. These included Enoch Powell who actively encouraged the migration of medical staff from India and the West Indies during his time as Minister for Health."



No source/s are provided by Brown for this claim and there is nothing that exists in ANY existing government records to substantiate it. It is pure fabrication, pure bullshit, but because it is being used to discredit Powell, the left immediately presumed it was true and you will find the lie repeated on countless internet website (like the one you blundered onto looking for dirt to ditch against Powell).



The truth about Enoch Powell and his involvement with non-white immigration into the British NHS while he was Minister for Health can be found in Hansard, as follows....



* Mr Sydney Bidwell (Ealing, Southall)

I do not disagree with the Right Honourable Gentleman's historical narrative, but he must accept the responsibility, which he appears to deny, for recruiting medical staff during 1960 to 1963 when he was the successful Minister for Health. He recruited doctors from the subcontinent and nurses from the West Indies.

RESPONSE: * Mr Enoch Powell (South Down)

The Honourable Gentleman feels that my activities are inconsistent with the opinions I express now (i.e; anti-immigration) - and which I have expressed for many years since the dimensions of the problem became visible ...When the books are opened it will be found that, until July 1962 as a member of the government, I strongly supported the measure taken to introduce such a possibility of control (on the entry of British subjects into the UK) by the Commonwealth Immigration Act, and that I argued persistently for the narrowest possible use of the available scope for immigration under the 1962 Act. The honourable Gentleman knows very well, and can confirm, that the vast majority of those recruited during these years into the NHS, not just among British Subjects from the Commonwealth, but among aliens - which is very relevant to the point - came to Britain for short periods of time to obtain training that they put into effect elsewhere. The Honourable Gentleman is finally aware THAT THE MINISTER for HEALTH HAS AT NO TIME BEEN THE RECRUITING AUTHORITY FOR STAFF IN THE NHS.

(Hansard 11/11/1982)



Pay particular attention to the last sentence of Enoch Powell's reply, make sure it sinks into your tiny brain.



Now, I could go on quoting Hansard (i.e. the TRUTH of what really went down) to show you what an ill-informed, stupid, little Kunt you are; if you'd like me to do so, please say. There's a shitload of it.


Finally, Enoch Powell was a brilliant man both as a scholar and as a politician. He was, sadly, the greatest Prime Minister Britain never had. Whereas today's generation of politicians in the West- people like your own Prime Minister in NZ are just 3rd-rate clowns- Enoch Powell was, in every way- a class act (Something I doubt you'd understand)



Kindest Regards

Der Uberweiner WOOF WOOF
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Who said anything about him being the 'recruiting authority'? It just says he 'encouraged' it. I suppose all the rest is 'lies' too. All those Pakistanis just sneaked in after WW11 when you weren't looking.

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Re: ENOCH POWELL WAS RIGHT

Post by RickLewis » Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:45 pm

Folks, Daschund is clearly just trying to wind you up, but if you must respond to his meanderings, please don't quote them in their entirety in your reply, as it makes the thread even more unreadable than it might otherwise be.

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