Scandinavian Democracy is the only democracy that works

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philosopher
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Scandinavian Democracy is the only democracy that works

Post by philosopher » Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:47 pm

The parliamentary democratic system in Scandinavian countries (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland) are by far the only democracies which forms governments representing the people they are about to govern.

In the U.S. when electing representatives, ie. the president or senate members, you vote for candidates but the candidate with the most votes take it all.

Same shit happens in just about every other country. For example in many countries (like Greece) if you have 3 parties A = 45 %, B = 46 % and C = 9 % the winner takes it all. It means the B-party gets all the votes or bonus resulting in total majority even though they only got 46 % of the votes.

In Scandinavian countries votes are distributed according to percentage. We have many parties and in Denmark any party that gets above 2 % of the votes are represented in the parliament. It also means that the governing parties usually never gets the majority alone. They have to form coalition governments and they are forced to have dialogue, discussions and agreements with other parties in order to obtain majority.

This is not the case in the U.S. You have virtually a 2-party system with some few other smaller parties nobody cares about.

Also in Scandinavian countries, criminals are allowed to vote, even when in jail. They are still part of society in some way and it is considered a human right to vote over here.

Our Prime Minister effectively acting as head of state (on behalf of our monarchs never using their power) also don't have as much power as your presidents. They don't even match the French president. They still have to make laws through the parliament.

So how come nobody who claim to be "democrats" wants to copy the Scandinavian parliamentary system?

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Re: Scandinavian Democracy is the only democracy that works

Post by FlashDangerpants » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:50 pm

That's not some special Scandinavian political system you doofus, it's just proportional representation, loads of places use it. Israel, Iraq and Italy all use it. So that's 3 countries just beginning with the letter I.

For "philosopher's" next trick: "In Scandinavia we eat food, why don't the rest of the world learn to eat food through their mouth holes for sustenance?"

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Re: Scandinavian Democracy is the only democracy that works

Post by vegetariantaxidermy » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:13 pm

Proportional representation is even more undemocratic. You have people becoming MPs who might not have got a single vote, simply because they were high enough on the Party List or because their party reached the 5% threshold. It's a sitting duck for nutty extremists. It's also nororiously unstable. The only proper democracy is Switzerland.

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