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Post by Dachshund » Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:28 pm

Could someone with more knowledge of the American legal system than I have please explain to me how it is that several Muslim Senators have recently been elected to the House ? Muslims are followers of Islam and with respect to its legal, cultural and social aspects, Islam is TOTALLY incompatible with, and actively hostile toward the American system of government (in general) as well as the fundamental tenets of the U.S. Constitution and the U.S. Bill of Rights
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Post by Impenitent » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:28 pm

freedom of religion doesn't mean freedom of christian denomination or atheism...

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Post by henry quirk » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:01 pm

It's the glory and grace of the American system: we'll hire any old piece of crap to serve, allow 'em to be utter assholes while in service, and then we'll send 'em packin' if they get too uppity.

If any of these Islamists go beyond bad mouthin' America, if any stray into the land of actual subversion, they'll have their keisters handed to them by way of the ballot box.

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Post by Dachshund » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:53 pm

Impenitent wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:28 pm
freedom of religion doesn't mean freedom of christian denomination or atheism...

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Imp,

Yes, Know that. The problem I have with Muslims is that they believe Islam is the only true religion. They believe that all other religions are false. This, in itself, is not too different from most religions. Where you find the difference, however, is that Islam teaches all other religions and beliefs are not to be TOLERATED. They believe that everyone must commit to Islam or die.


The primary goal of Islam is the complete domination of Islam over all other religions. The final goal is the eventual elimination of all other religions.


I am saddened to hear that America now has Muslims in Congress. They have already made anti-semitic statements and said that they will not assimilate into American society/culture. They took their oath of office on the Koran, not the Bible. This means that their loyalty is to the god of Islam, Allah, and not to the God of the Bible. I know that there can be no religious test for the holding of political office in the U.S., but there is a great danger in allowing people to be sworn into office on a book that advocates the overthrow of any government that is not Islamic


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Post by Kayla » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:33 pm

Dachshund wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:28 pm
Could someone with more knowledge of the American legal system than I have please explain to me how it is that several Muslim Senators have recently been elected to the House ?
we have freedom of religion and no religious test for holding public office

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Post by Impenitent » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:42 pm

henry quirk wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:01 pm
It's the glory and grace of the American system: we'll hire any old piece of crap to serve, allow 'em to be utter assholes while in service, and then we'll send 'em packin' if they get too uppity.

If any of these Islamists go beyond bad mouthin' America, if any stray into the land of actual subversion, they'll have their keisters handed to them by way of the ballot box.
actual subversion? like becoming a socialist utopia?

ballot box? no my friend... you know that's why we have the second...

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Post by henry quirk » Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:27 pm

"actual subversion? like becoming a socialist utopia?"

Yep. Theocracy, utopia: the price for either is 'me' and 'you'.

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"ballot box? no my friend... you know that's why we have the second..."

Absolutely. But the ballot box comes first and the guns come last. That is: we react peaceably till 'peace' is no longer an option.

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Post by Arising_uk » Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:08 pm

Dachshund wrote:...
Yes, Know that. The problem I have with Muslims is that they believe Islam is the only true religion. They believe that all other religions are false. This, in itself, is not too different from most religions. Where you find the difference, however, is that Islam teaches all other religions and beliefs are not to be TOLERATED. They believe that everyone must commit to Islam or die.


The primary goal of Islam is the complete domination of Islam over all other religions. The final goal is the eventual elimination of all other religions. ...
You quite clearly have not read the Christian Bible nor the Koran.

Islam teaches it's adherents to obey the laws of the country they are in and the Bible ends with Christians killing all those who disagree with them and enslaving whoever's left.
This means that their loyalty is to the god of Islam, Allah, and not to the God of the Bible. ...
The Islamic 'God' is the same one as in the Bible it's just that they recognise Jesus as a Prophet not the Son of 'God', much like the Jews except they don't even recognise him as a prophet, would you also ban Jews from your Congress?
I know that there can be no religious test for the holding of political office in the U.S., but there is a great danger in allowing people to be sworn into office on a book that advocates the overthrow of any government that is not Islamic
Where does it say this?

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Post by Arising_uk » Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:35 am

henry quirk wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:27 pm
"actual subversion? like becoming a socialist utopia?"

Yep. Theocracy, utopia: the price for either is 'me' and 'you'.

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"ballot box? no my friend... you know that's why we have the second..."

Absolutely. But the ballot box comes first and the guns come last. That is: we react peaceably till 'peace' is no longer an option.
This is so funny! The only people in America who will overthrow your democracy will be the far right and your second will just be gun-toting militias killing and terrorising citizens who don't agree with them.

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Post by henry quirk » Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:44 am

"The only people in America who will overthrow your democracy will be the far right and your second will just be gun-toting militias killing and terrorising citizens who don't agree with them."

1-America is not a democracy. America is a constitutionsl republic.

2-The only folks currently lookin' to dis-embed America from its foundation are on the 'Left'.

So: 1 + 2 = you, not knowin' squat.

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Post by Dachshund » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:23 am

Arising_uk wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:08 pm
Dachshund wrote:...
Yes, Know that. The problem I have with Muslims is that they believe Islam is the only true religion. They believe that all other religions are false. This, in itself, is not too different from most religions. Where you find the difference, however, is that Islam teaches all other religions and beliefs are not to be TOLERATED. They believe that everyone must commit to Islam or die.


The primary goal of Islam is the complete domination of Islam over all other religions. The final goal is the eventual elimination of all other religions. ...
You quite clearly have not read the Christian Bible nor the Koran.

Islam teaches it's adherents to obey the laws of the country they are in and the Bible ends with Christians killing all those who disagree with them and enslaving whoever's left.
This means that their loyalty is to the god of Islam, Allah, and not to the God of the Bible. ...
The Islamic 'God' is the same one as in the Bible it's just that they recognise Jesus as a Prophet not the Son of 'God', much like the Jews except they don't even recognise him as a prophet, would you also ban Jews from your Congress?
I know that there can be no religious test for the holding of political office in the U.S., but there is a great danger in allowing people to be sworn into office on a book that advocates the overthrow of any government that is not Islamic
Where does it say this?

Dear, Oh Dear,


So, Tosspot, "the Islamic god is the same as the God of the Bible", is that right?! I didn't know that you were such an erudite theologian? Have you published this breakthrough discovery in the literature yet? It will certainly send shock waves through the Western academy and the Vatican, because everyone in the West, and not just the our religious/theological scholars and clergy but every day-day, ordinary man and his dog have always assumed over the countless generations that the Biblical God (YAHWEH) was a very different kind of God indeed from the god of the Islam (ALLAH).


Seriously, Tosspot, I think your claim that the god of the Koran, Allah, is the same entity as the Biblical God, Yahweh, is probably the most astonishing (and frankly alarming) display of brute ignorance I have yet encountered on this forum - and that's saying something because there is one hell of a lot of bullshit and stupidity published on this site virtually every day. But to declare that God (Yahweh) and Allah are identical - man, that sure takes the cake for kookiness.

It actually reminds me of the time I was in Ingerlund in the late 1980's and went up to my local Sainsbury's to get a copy of "The Telegraph". When I walked over to the newspaper area my eye was caught by the front page of "The Sunday Sport" tabloid shouting in large bold print: "WORLD WAR 2 BOMBER FOUND ON MOON." I bought a copy of the "Sport" and when I got home I read it. I learned that a team of intrepid "Sport" reporters had uncovered the fact that a Second World War Lancaster Bomber was indeed lying on the lunar surface. It seemed that this Lancaster bomber was part of a top secret government project that began in 1940. In 1941, a prototype Lancaster bomber had been refitted with special rocket engines that were powered by a fuel comprised of equal parts of kerosine and hydrogen peroxide.This modification had allowed the Lancaster to blast into space and its pilot to steer it to the moon where he succeeded in eventually landed the plane. The idea was that a fleet of these modified Lancasters would be built to transport all of the members of the British government to the moon if Hitler won the war. (I should have kept that copy of the "Sunday Sport", because today it is a valuable collectors piece)

The tragic difference between the "Sunday Sport" claiming that there was a Lancaster Bomber on surface of the moon and your claim that Allah is the Biblical God is that the "Sport" was taking the piss, while you are serious (!)

So, to cut to the chase, here are some of the important differences between the God of the Bible (Yahweh) and the Islamic god of the Koran, (Allah)

(1) Yahweh's only begotten Son is Jesus; Allah has no begotten son.

(2) Yahweh made salvation possible by sacrificing His Son and promises salvation by grace to those who believe. Allah sacrificed nothing, and only saves if sufficient works are done.

(3) Yahweh has a payment for sins - Jesus Christ - Allah has no payment for sins.

(4)Yahweh's Christ paid for the sins of mankind. Allah paid for nothing, and all men pay for their own sins.

(5) Yahweh's salvation is through Christ's work, Allah's salvation is through other people's work.

(6) Yahweh's saving work is, "Come to Christ". The major part of the Muslim's salvation is to believe in Mohammed (a bloodthirsty psychopath and paedophile) was the sum and seal of all prophets.

(7) Yahweh's book is very different from Allah's book. The contradict each other and so cannot both be true. For example, the Bible says Christ was resurrected from the dead. The Muslim rejects this as a lie.

(8) Yahweh made man and woman equal, Allah does not.

(9) Yahweh says that his Son is the Way, the Truth and the Life. Allah says that Christ is "only a messenger."

(10) Yahweh says marriages today (Christian) are to be monogamous. Allah allows men to own more than one wife.

(11) There is no marriage in Yahweh's Paradise, but in Allah's men are given many virgins to enjoy as sex objects (DISGUSTING !)

(12) Yahweh says it is not necessary to have special days. Allah does, for instance Ramadan, the holy month through which Muslims must fast.


This list is far from exhaustive, though as a final point let me say that as far as I am aware, Muslims do not say that Allah and the God of the Jews and Christians are the same being. This is the major reason why Muslims regard Christians as "INFIDELS". Why on Earth would they say this if they sincerely believed we were worshipping the same God ?


People in the West like you are a worry, Tosspot. While you are literate and ostensibly intelligent, your complete ignorance of a major political issue that focuses on a direct threat facing the West, namely Muslim immigration, is astounding. You are, I believe, one of those cossetted, callow, left-leaning liberal-progressive types who think: "Yeah, sure it's OK for the UK to welcome more Muslim immigrants/refuges to the UK, because they don't represent any real threat to our culture and lifestyle, do they ? Only racists (like dachshund) think stuff like that, and racism is evil, dude. In any case, diversity is a good thing for British society, that's what they taught me at the Postmodern/Marxist university where I got my degree in social science ( or whatever humanities, literary, political studies, languages field it happened to be, so it must be right. Also you just have to look at America to see that encouraging diversity is a very good idea, I mean, the US is just one great big happy melting pot and that's what we need in the UK, therefore I'm going to vote for the political party that has the most robust pro-immigration policies at the next election."



Because you are wholly ignorant of Islam on every level, you do not understand how very dangerous the idea of accepting more Muslims into the UK and other Western countries really is. But, of course when it all went pear-shaped, you would be the first little piggy to squeal blue murder about violations of human rights in your society as Sharia law began to spread across the nation That is why, for me, it is precisely issues like this that irremediably shatter my faith in Western democracy. That's because it reminds me that there is only one way that democracy can ever deliver a satisfactory form of government to a state, and that is if the majority of the public are (factually) well-informed individuals who also possess a good quantity of prudential wisdom. But the majority of the public in the West are NOT like this and so the result is - as Winston Churchill and Thomas Jefferson would say - nothing more than "mob rule."


Let me finish by saying that there is NO CASE that can be argued against the urgent need for ALL MUSLIM IMMIGRATION IN THE WEST to be TOTALLY PROHIBITED right now. Ideally all MUSLIM residents in the WEST should also be promptly deported to their country of origin or whatever Muslim-majority state will accept then. (This, unfortunately is not politically possible in 2019).


If you wish to object, go ahead. But let me warn you , you'll only end up with lots of embarrassing egg on your face, Tosspot !


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PS: I have to admit it was prudent of you not to take up my offer of a bet (a few months back) that Boris Johnson would seize the Tory Crown, and the Conservatives would win the next UK General Election. Because that's exactly what's going to happen. You saved yourself £200 pounds there TP. Ha, Ha. It's funny how whenever "push come to shove" lefty-liberals like you (big girls) always bottle it ( they never have the courage of their BS convictions) Ha, Ha; what a laugh !!


PSS: I will not cease from mental fight
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand
Till we have built a Muslim- free Jerusalem
In Ingerlund's green and pleasant land

Hurrah ! Hurrah!

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Post by Kayla » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:18 pm

you can use more or less the same arguments to argue that the Jews worship a different god from the christians

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Post by Arising_uk » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:50 am

Dachshund wrote: Dear, Oh Dear,


So, Tosspot, "the Islamic god is the same as the God of the Bible", is that right?! I didn't know that you were such an erudite theologian? Have you published this breakthrough discovery in the literature yet? It will certainly send shock waves through the Western academy and the Vatican, because everyone in the West, and not just the our religious/theological scholars and clergy but every day-day, ordinary man and his dog have always assumed over the countless generations that the Biblical God (YAHWEH) was a very different kind of God indeed from the god of the Islam (ALLAH). ...
:lol: Is that right twat? Well tell those 'Biblical' scholars of yours that they are then saying there are two 'God's' as Yahweh is the Jewish 'God' and Jehovah is the Christian one. If not then Allah is also Jehovah which is exactly what Islam says. As what Islam says is that the Jews, Christians and Muslims are all Children of The Book but what makes the difference is that the Jews don't think Christ was the Messiah nor the son of 'God', the Christians do and the Muslims think him just a prophet with Muhammad the last prophet before the coming of the Caliph and the instigation of Islam upon the Earth when Jesus will also return, although the Christians of course don't believe this and I have no idea what the Jews think about this matter.
Seriously, Tosspot, I think your claim that the god of the Koran, Allah, is the same entity as the Biblical God, Yahweh, is probably the most astonishing (and frankly alarming) display of brute ignorance I have yet encountered on this forum - and that's saying something because there is one hell of a lot of bullshit and stupidity published on this site virtually every day. But to declare that God (Yahweh) and Allah are identical - man, that sure takes the cake for kookiness. ...
Tell it to the Muslims twat.
It actually reminds me of the time I was in Ingerlund in the late 1980's and went up to my local Sainsbury's to get a copy of "The Telegraph". When I walked over to the newspaper area my eye was caught by the front page of "The Sunday Sport" tabloid shouting in large bold print: "WORLD WAR 2 BOMBER FOUND ON MOON." I bought a copy of the "Sport" and when I got home I read it. I learned that a team of intrepid "Sport" reporters had uncovered the fact that a Second World War Lancaster Bomber was indeed lying on the lunar surface. It seemed that this Lancaster bomber was part of a top secret government project that began in 1940. In 1941, a prototype Lancaster bomber had been refitted with special rocket engines that were powered by a fuel comprised of equal parts of kerosine and hydrogen peroxide.This modification had allowed the Lancaster to blast into space and its pilot to steer it to the moon where he succeeded in eventually landed the plane. The idea was that a fleet of these modified Lancasters would be built to transport all of the members of the British government to the moon if Hitler won the war. (I should have kept that copy of the "Sunday Sport", because today it is a valuable collectors piece)

The tragic difference between the "Sunday Sport" claiming that there was a Lancaster Bomber on surface of the moon and your claim that Allah is the Biblical God is that the "Sport" was taking the piss, while you are serious (!) ...
*Yawn*.
So, to cut to the chase, here are some of the important differences between the God of the Bible (Yahweh) and the Islamic god of the Koran, (Allah)

(1) Yahweh's only begotten Son is Jesus; Allah has no begotten son.

(2) Yahweh made salvation possible by sacrificing His Son and promises salvation by grace to those who believe. Allah sacrificed nothing, and only saves if sufficient works are done.

(3) Yahweh has a payment for sins - Jesus Christ - Allah has no payment for sins.

(4)Yahweh's Christ paid for the sins of mankind. Allah paid for nothing, and all men pay for their own sins.

(5) Yahweh's salvation is through Christ's work, Allah's salvation is through other people's work.

(6) Yahweh's saving work is, "Come to Christ". The major part of the Muslim's salvation is to believe in Mohammed (a bloodthirsty psychopath and paedophile) was the sum and seal of all prophets.

(7) Yahweh's book is very different from Allah's book. The contradict each other and so cannot both be true. For example, the Bible says Christ was resurrected from the dead. The Muslim rejects this as a lie.

(8) Yahweh made man and woman equal, Allah does not.

(9) Yahweh says that his Son is the Way, the Truth and the Life. Allah says that Christ is "only a messenger."

(10) Yahweh says marriages today (Christian) are to be monogamous. Allah allows men to own more than one wife.

(11) There is no marriage in Yahweh's Paradise, but in Allah's men are given many virgins to enjoy as sex objects (DISGUSTING !)

(12) Yahweh says it is not necessary to have special days. Allah does, for instance Ramadan, the holy month through which Muslims must fast.
You seem to be confusing the 'God' of the OT with Jehovah? Or are you saying that the Jewish 'God' of the OT is the same as the 'God' of the NT and if so then 'it' is also the 'God of the Koran, if not then apparently we now have two 'God's' in the Bible. Me, I think you all barking mad.

Apparently the Mormons didn't get your message or do they believe in a different 'God' as well? Boy there seem to be a lot of these theist 'God's' about. :lol:

Oh! And apparently you've not heard of Lent but then you aren't much of a Christian are you.
This list is far from exhaustive, though as a final point let me say that as far as I am aware, Muslims do not say that Allah and the God of the Jews and Christians are the same being. ...
Show how aware you are then and that you are really just a piss-poor troll.
This is the major reason why Muslims regard Christians as "INFIDELS". Why on Earth would they say this if they sincerely believed we were worshipping the same God ? ...
:roll: Because we don't believe that Muhammad is the last prophet and believe that Jesus was the Son of 'God'. God how dense can you be.
People in the West like you are a worry, Tosspot. While you are literate and ostensibly intelligent, your complete ignorance of a major political issue that focuses on a direct threat facing the West, namely Muslim immigration, is astounding. ...
They aren't immigrants twat they are refugees caused by us pissing about in the ME because of Oil which has been going on since the second world war when we broke our promises to the Arabs. The latest fubar is down to the fuckwittery of right-wing twats such as yourself arming and funding the Mujahedeen whilst playing Cold-War games with the Soviets and has morphed into such things as Al Queda and ISIS thanks to once again the Yank funding and training the loons for their National Interest, personally I think it's down to Americas incessant need to have an external enemy to keep their nation together as their internal contradictions would split them up, that and that their industrial/military combine needs one to keep the dollars rolling in. You want to stop Muslims from coming, stop bombing them back to the stone-age!!
You are, I believe, one of those cossetted, callow, left-leaning liberal-progressive types who think: "Yeah, sure it's OK for the UK to welcome more Muslim immigrants/refuges to the UK, because they don't represent any real threat to our culture and lifestyle, do they ? Only racists (like dachshund) think stuff like that, and racism is evil, dude. In any case, diversity is a good thing for British society, that's what they taught me at the Postmodern/Marxist university where I got my degree in social science ( or whatever humanities, literary, political studies, languages field it happened to be, so it must be right. Also you just have to look at America to see that encouraging diversity is a very good idea, I mean, the US is just one great big happy melting pot and that's what we need in the UK, therefore I'm going to vote for the political party that has the most robust pro-immigration policies at the next election."
Personally I think the biggest fuck-up we made in this country was when both the left and the right imported that abomination of a contradiction of terms 'Multiculturalism' from the Yank, as they believed the bollocks that America was a melting-pot when it was far from being anything of the sort. It stopped the conversation in the 70's about what it was to be British dead in it's tracks and we're still stuck in the same old rut with twats like you now spouting the same old tired guff and we're doing it again with this new Yank-speak 'Progressive' when we have had a perfectly good term for a very long-time - Liberal.
Because you are wholly ignorant of Islam on every level, you do not understand how very dangerous the idea of accepting more Muslims into the UK and other Western countries really is. But, of course when it all went pear-shaped, you would be the first little piggy to squeal blue murder about violations of human rights in your society as Sharia law began to spread across the nation That is why, for me, it is precisely issues like this that irremediably shatter my faith in Western democracy. That's because it reminds me that there is only one way that democracy can ever deliver a satisfactory form of government to a state, and that is if the majority of the public are (factually) well-informed individuals who also possess a good quantity of prudential wisdom. But the majority of the public in the West are NOT like this and so the result is - as Winston Churchill and Thomas Jefferson would say - nothing more than "mob rule."
Well I have no idea what this Jefferson said and have little care for seditionists but Churchill thought nothing of the sort about Democracy. You really need to stop reading the Daily Wail and visiting your fan-boy Nazi sites as there is no intention by Muslims in this country to impose Sharia Law upon the rest of us and they are in no position to do so even if they wished. You are quite clearly one of those who wish to live under a dictatorship and good luck to you.
Let me finish by saying that there is NO CASE that can be argued against the urgent need for ALL MUSLIM IMMIGRATION IN THE WEST to be TOTALLY PROHIBITED right now. Ideally all MUSLIM residents in the WEST should also be promptly deported to their country of origin or whatever Muslim-majority state will accept then. (This, unfortunately is not politically possible in 2019). ...
So basically you're saying we should deport fifth, sixth,seventh generation British citizens whose ancestors came here under British passports? What a little nazi fascist you are.
If you wish to object, go ahead. But let me warn you , you'll only end up with lots of embarrassing egg on your face, Tosspot !
:lol: What a twat. Although I'm getting pretty suspicious of your claim to be a septic tank as you appear to not understand your own Constitution? More than likely you're just a sad little Brit troll holed up in your bedsit somewhere in the UK.
PS: I have to admit it was prudent of you not to take up my offer of a bet (a few months back) that Boris Johnson would seize the Tory Crown, and the Conservatives would win the next UK General Election. Because that's exactly what's going to happen. You saved yourself £200 pounds there TP. Ha, Ha. It's funny how whenever "push come to shove" lefty-liberals like you (big girls) always bottle it ( they never have the courage of their BS convictions) Ha, Ha; what a laugh !!
Are you mental or something? What I said was that Corbyn, et al, are appealing to the youth in a way that hasn't been seen in a very long-time as they've never heard his style of guff before as it's been Tory and Tory-Lite for nearly four decades now. This explains why Labour Party membership is now over half a million whilst the Tory Party has one hundred and twenty thousand and falling fast.
:roll: The election has not been held yet and personally I hope the Tories are in power and that Boris makes a hard Brexit(unlikely) as then the consequences will lie firmly with Tory Party and they will be destroyed for years to come along with the great irony that they will very likely also break-up the Union. :lol: And all because they ignored centuries of representative parliamentary democracy and called a referendum for tawdry party politics in fear of the ballot box as UKIP was splitting their vote and irony of ironies they now have to vote in a fat lying shyster for exactly the same reason, they are scared of the Brexit Party splitting their vote and letting Labour in. I'd cry if it wasn't so funny.
PSS: I will not cease from mental fight
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand
Till we have built a Muslim- free Jerusalem
In Ingerlund's green and pleasant land

Hurrah ! Hurrah!
Lmao! So along with plastic-paddies we now have to put-up with ersatz-englismen from the septics. What's up, no culture of your own?

I remember my grandad saying the best thing about the end of the war was that all the Yanks pissed-off back home. :lol:
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Post by Arising_uk » Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:42 am

henry quirk wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:44 am
"The only people in America who will overthrow your democracy will be the far right and your second will just be gun-toting militias killing and terrorising citizens who don't agree with them."

1-America is not a democracy. America is a constitutionsl republic.

2-The only folks currently lookin' to dis-embed America from its foundation are on the 'Left'.

So: 1 + 2 = you, not knowin' squat.
And yet it appears to only be the far right-wing who yak on about using their guns to overthrow a democractically elected government?

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Post by henry quirk » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:49 pm

"And yet it appears to only be the far right-wing who yak on about using their guns to overthrow a democractically elected government?"

That's drummed up manure: yeah, a minority of blowhards make a lotta noise, but the majority of the 'far right-wing' are workin', not conspirin'.

No, it's the openly leftist groups (OCCUPY, ANTIFA, etc.) who actually take to streets and stir crap, who actively threaten overthrow. It's elected lefties who actively promote dis-embedding the U.S. from it's foundation.

Important to note: that blowhard rightwing minority, as they grumble about the 'guvment', would like to see America adhere more closely to the Constitution (that document of principle and process), while the leftist majority want to practically toss the Constitution out the window.

The blowhard right only contemplates rebellion because they quite accurately see democratic process skewed away from the very set of codified principles that make those democratic processes possible.The left majority doesn't give a rat's dirty end about democratic process which is why they bend and break those processes all the time.

The right can be a shithole, yep, but the left 'is' a shithole all the damn time.

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