Why is nazism popular today?

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Re: Why is nazism popular today?

Post by gaffo » Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:28 am

Justintruth wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:18 pm
gaffo wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2019 12:39 am
yes, you do him him honour in providing the link and his name.

i personally honour him for having a mind of his own in a time when it was easier to just be a robot.

he save millions IMO.

not being hypoberipic(sp) here.

IMO than man deserves a statue in "Moscow Square".
Or at the United Nations
yes, both! would be fine too.

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Re: Why is nazism popular today?

Post by -1- » Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:37 am

Gary Childress wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:02 pm
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Fri May 31, 2019 6:08 pm
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Found the Goethe quote: “Beauty is a manifestation of secret natural laws, which otherwise would have been hidden from us forever.”
Maybe the trend of deep thought in the classicist period of the 19th century Germany was to think that our world partly derives from worlds that are beyond our comrehension or sensation... not a bad idea, I tend to think.
I think the Goethe quote sort of invokes feelings of reverence for what is beautiful; that the beautiful is something that deserves to be or ought to be appreciated or understood in a way not given to ugliness. I think an alternative perspective would be to treat beauty as purely accidental or ultimately inconsequential. However, the latter view seems maybe somewhat unfulfilling to me.
I think beauty serves a survival purpose in mate selection, so beauty and ugl both are consequential and very important.

The rest of the things that some call beautiful and some call ugly are not inconsequential, but individually decided. If it were inconsequential, beauty would not create joy in me. That's a consequence all right. I would not want to deprive myself of the enjoyment in my life of the things I consider beautiful.

It's just that not all people in mankind can agree what beautiful is, and what components of a creation make it beautiful or ugly.

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Re: Why is nazism popular today?

Post by nothing » Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:47 pm

Male central figure orator military leader who amassed power via public oration, weaponized the state against any/all political adversaries, expanded militarily while violating peace treaties and subsequently used the power of the state to commit genocide against Jews.
This statement applies to both Adolph Hitler and Muhammad of Islam.

Nazism is just as popular as it was when it started 1400 years ago: at least 270 000 000 (known of) dead and counting so far.

https://www.politicalislam.com/tears-of-jihad/

it's the Jews! it's the Christians! it's the Atheists! etc.
blame others, blame others, blame others
it is the religion of Islam.

The House of Islam is thus the root of fascism, they hide behind any/all proxies they can and turn people into "believers" because, as is required by Islam, it takes a believer to believe evil is good and thus you have the ignorant who believe the opposite of what is true: such as 'Islam is peace', war is peace, abuse is mercy or even Muhammad was somehow not an infidel (in the actual practical meaning of the word, for Muhammadans having no respect for language) for abandoning the Edenic 1x1=1 ad infinitum state and taking to polygamy while instructing his followers to do the same. Now in Islam: man blames woman for his own iniquity (original sin of Adam) and covets woman thus treats her as an expendable piece of property (as women are collected as war spoils in jihad). The 'state' of Islam is thus itself infidel: patriarchal swinery that defines the dark ages of swine men abusing women for a living.

Islam is certainly perpetuating the conflict viz.
"believer vs unbeliever"
and certainly the root of Nazism.

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Re: Why is nazism popular today?

Post by Belinda » Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:36 pm

Nothing, do you think Muslims actually go about disliking non-Muslims? You need to look at a reliable statistical analysis of Muslim religiosity.

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Re: Why is nazism popular today?

Post by nothing » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:16 pm

Nothing, do you think Muslims actually go about disliking non-Muslims? You need to look at a reliable statistical analysis of Muslim religiosity.
I prefer to stick to reading the doctrine of the ideology itself.
"believer vs. unbeliever"
(ie. "us" vs. "them")

is a religious ideologically fixed component until all have either:
i. actively pays taxes to the 'state' via jizya / extortion of non-Muslims
ii. convert to Islam
iii. be executed

so Sharia-based law works in stages: create migrant crises,
export "migrants" and invade non-Muslim nations.

It happens to be a global warfare strategy
contained in the Sunnah of Muhammad
and is in the Qur'an. Islam takes Muhammad
as an idol for all of humanity, thus Islam
is idol worship, not unlike Christianity
both "mercy upon mankind" idols
serving as objective standard
contrary to:

GENESIS 2:17
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

It takes a "believer" to ever "believe" evil is good, without the need to define them (ie. eat from the tree).
Satan thus requires belief for a believer to believe:
i. Belief-in-and-of-itself is a virtue, instead of a vice,
ii. evil is good
iii. satan is god (ie. re: "Allah")
"Allah" requires belief-in-and-of-itself.
All Muslims are believers.

Where it leads: hundreds of millions of people are dead since Adam tries to blame his own sins onto the woman, hence "original religion of Adam". Adam got kicked out of Eden for choosing to blame others for his own iniquities. This is the same pathology of Islam:
the accuser is the accused.

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Re: Why is nazism popular today?

Post by Belinda » Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:48 am

Nothing wrote:
I prefer to stick to reading the doctrine of the ideology itself.
Okay. But aren't all ideologies bad such that the more they are prescriptive the more bad they be?

You quote from Genesis about The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.

That tree is the tree that bears the fruit named Certainty. Men are doomed forever to seek the good and fight the bad. Satan saddled us with the duty to seek the good and fight the evil and that duty is why we are not children in the Garden.

I agree Islamic doctrine is prescriptive. Fortunately Muslims are generally practical people, and much of Muhammad's rules and regulations are good if you remember Muhammad was a man of his time.

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Re: Why is nazism popular today?

Post by Ansiktsburk » Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:04 pm

Belinda wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:48 am
Nothing wrote:
I prefer to stick to reading the doctrine of the ideology itself.
Okay. But aren't all ideologies bad such that the more they are prescriptive the more bad they be?

You quote from Genesis about The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.

That tree is the tree that bears the fruit named Certainty. Men are doomed forever to seek the good and fight the bad. Satan saddled us with the duty to seek the good and fight the evil and that duty is why we are not children in the Garden.

I agree Islamic doctrine is prescriptive. Fortunately Muslims are generally practical people, and much of Muhammad's rules and regulations are good if you remember Muhammad was a man of his time.
Problem here is "generally". It takes one rotten egg to spoil a class in school, like. In my scandinavian home country, Islam is not an asset even though I know loads of nice muslims.

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Re: Why is nazism popular today?

Post by Belinda » Wed Nov 13, 2019 3:48 pm

Problem here is "generally". It takes one rotten egg to spoil a class in school, like. In my scandinavian home country, Islam is not an asset even though I know loads of nice muslims.
Yes, well I think we should not be prejudiced against a class because of one rotten egg, although if the egg is bad enough the temptation is there to assign a popularised cause for it.

I say 'popularised' . There are increasing numbers of uncharming people who condemn minorities just because they are minorities.

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Re: Why is nazism popular today?

Post by nothing » Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:30 pm

Okay. But aren't all ideologies bad such that the more they are prescriptive the more bad they be?
No. The problem is (degree of) belief-in-and-of-itself: it is required to confuse good/evil viz. believing the opposite of what is true. This relates to:
You quote from Genesis about The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.

That tree is the tree that bears the fruit named Certainty. Men are doomed forever to seek the good and fight the bad. Satan saddled us with the duty to seek the good and fight the evil and that duty is why we are not children in the Garden.
ABC'S of GOOD and EVIL
A believes B is evil.
B believes A is evil.
C knows neither know from which tree they eat...
A & B annihilate
...merely believing to certainly know good/evil while being dead wrong.

"BELIEVER" vs. "UNBELIEVER"
I agree Islamic doctrine is prescriptive. Fortunately Muslims are generally practical people, and much of Muhammad's rules and regulations are good if you remember Muhammad was a man of his time.
Muhammad is the elaboration of the original sin, thus anti-Christ. He violated every single one of the ten commandments and establishes a global precedent for polygamy (necessarily infidel according to pre-fall Edenic 'state') and pedophilia (viz. sex-sex-sex mind-heart-action, mark of the beast).

In the same way it takes a believer to believe evil is good,
it takes a believer to believe perpetual war is peace.

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Re: Why is nazism popular today?

Post by gaffo » Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:26 am

Belinda wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:36 pm
Nothing, do you think Muslims actually go about disliking non-Muslims? You need to look at a reliable statistical analysis of Muslim religiosity.
Muslims are stuck in the earlier Christian "War" = prots vs Catholics.

there war is Shia vs Sunni moreso that agianst the rest of us pagans.

per the small minded amoung them.

........... the irony is that the diff bet the shai and sunni is literally small stuff theologically (eating seafood), and the rightful heir of the Caliphate (the former a blood decendant of Mohammed, the latter not so required).


but in truth the division bet the prots and catholics are no more nor less - i.e. quite small.

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Re: Why is nazism popular today?

Post by Belinda » Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:39 am

gaffo wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:26 am
Belinda wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:36 pm
Nothing, do you think Muslims actually go about disliking non-Muslims? You need to look at a reliable statistical analysis of Muslim religiosity.
Muslims are stuck in the earlier Christian "War" = prots vs Catholics.

there war is Shia vs Sunni moreso that agianst the rest of us pagans.

per the small minded amoung them.

........... the irony is that the diff bet the shai and sunni is literally small stuff theologically (eating seafood), and the rightful heir of the Caliphate (the former a blood decendant of Mohammed, the latter not so required).


but in truth the division bet the prots and catholics are no more nor less - i.e. quite small.
Yes, I remember an educated Muslim a pharmacist telling me that about twenty years ago.

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