Dachshund wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 9:27 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 9:08 am
Do you even know what caused the Cuban missile crisis? You are such a dipshit know nothing waste of resources.
Yeah, I do Vegetable,
Nikita Khrushchev, who was a pig - ignorant, Russian peasant and lying, Kommunist Kunt (bit like ewe in a way) said to his buddy, Fidel Castro, in 1962, who was a Kuban, Komminist Kunt, "Fidel, I'm sending you some Soviet nuclear missiles on a ship and when they arrive at Kuba, I want you set set them up so that they're pointed at America and ready to be fired if we give the word to let them go, bro."
The Soviet missiles on Kuba were supposed to be a secret, but the Americans didn't trust the Soviets and they used air surveillance to sus out what was actually going on.
JFK was really pissed off when he saw aerial photo evidence of the Soviet missiles prepped for launch at sites on Kuba because Kuba was only about 90 miles from the US coast (Florida) and if the Soviets launched the Kuban ICBM missiles that Kastro had set up for them, it could mean that lots of major cities in America would be fucked (completely).
So, to cut a long story short, there was a Mexican stand-off at sea in October 1962, afterJFK said to Khrushchev, "We know you've got nukes on Kuba aimed at us, you lying piece of shit, and you'd better get those nukes off Kuba asap, and don't fuck with me, coz if you don't, I'll glassify the whole USSR." Khruschev backed down and removed the Russian ICBMs from Kuba, and that's the end of the storey ,Veggie.
I am pretty sure the strategic missiles that were to be installed in Cuba never got the nukes mounted on them and never became operational.
HOWEVER,... what I didn't read until recently was that there were tactical nukes in Cuba at the time of the crisis. Further, Khrushchev had pre-authorized their use in case of a US invasion. That means no authorization would have been required by Khrushchev to use them!!!
No intelligence was available in the USA on these nukes. If we had invaded we would have been faced tactical nukes that we did not know were there. Anyone who understands the Art of War will see the significance of these two facts. It's worst case.
Further, the military was recommending invasion and, unaware of what they faced, were predicting a quick victory. Kennedy was so concerned that the military would cause a war without his authorization, that he sent McNamara down to their command center to make sure it didn't happen.
Kennedy basically traded Castro and Cuba and the removal of some obsolete missiles aimed at Russia for an end to the crisis. Great trade as what he gave was largely hidden at the time, whereas what the Russians gave was made public. Genius because Kennedy needed to worry about the press but Khrushchev had his press under his thumb. Those two men therefore found the way out by exploiting the difference in what they needed and found common ground on which they came to a win/win in a situation that everyone thought was lost! The international press was that Kennedy had "stared down" Khrushchev. That was a great outcome for the USA from a propaganda point of view - well worth the trade - and given how much data we had on Russian targets it was great for Russia too. It was good for Castro but not necessarily for the Cuban people.
I am so glad of the life that I have had. The whole thing could very easily have been cut short at that time had the military invasion option been selected. It is a tribute to both Kennedy and Khrushchev that this did not happen.
What is most interesting is that the real standoff seems to have been between Kennedy and his military and Khrushchev and his military. Both men were as concerned about loosing control over their own country's forces. In case there had been a nuke of the US invasion forces it is possible that neither man could have prevented a strategic war being initialed by their own forces.
Now it takes a little imagination to understand what that means. Until I was in the military I thought "Nuking...good way to die...you just vaporize." After studying blast radii, and realizing that there is everything from a sunburn all the way in to those lucky ones that get incinerated, and realizing that the supply of pain killing medication would be completely overwhelmed by the demand...well...I am just so glad they successfully stopped it and I didn't have to walk around with the flesh all burnt up waiting as I died in agony of infection or radiation poisoning without medical attention. Not so bad for me but having to look around at all those other burn victims in the streets would have been disgusting!
The environmental consequences of nuclear war were not even known then. There would have been a lot of suffering all over the world - major starvation.
Until we organize a properly restrained global government with civil institutions to resolve conflict and we make these nukes obsolete we will never be safe. We have got to deal with two threats: the nukes, and the environment. And we need the resources now enslaved to create institutes on human biology so we can fix the real threat - aging and its inevitable consequences. If we fail to do this we may not be so lucky next time.
And "we"? Well that means the population of the earth.