Evil Right Wing Fascism will eventually win

[philosopher]

It is all explained in the link.
https://basicincome.org/basic-income/faq/

No it isn't. There's a lot of fluff. Lots of detail on how often and who will get it.

No clarity on where the money comes from.

Ultimately, as with everything else publicly funded, it is tax money. You work, you pay tax.
In case of Basic Income, you can decide not to work and "drain the treasury", so to speak.
Though, you wouldn't get as much money as if you decide to work and pay taxes. The Basic Income is lower than the income you get from working.
So you still have incentive to work.

The money used for Basic Income is roughly corresponding to the amount of tax money used on various social benefits (unemployment benefits, disability benefits etc.).

Only that this time, you don't have to work to get those money. In many modern welfare states, you have to work in order to get social benefits, like unemployment benefits. You work as cheap labor for the government, in todays welfare benefits. This is what I want replaced with Unconditional Basic Income.

[FlashDangerpants]

What is it with Right Wing Fascism that makes it so much more popular than say left-wing liberalism?

Why did you duck my question? As you have already mentioned yourself...

If you want to discuss ideologies, you ought to have at least a definition of those ideologies that makes them different from any other idelogy.

So get to it. I want a definition of Right Wing Fascism that makes it different from any other ideology.

Per your own list it needs to adequately contain the following ideologies...
* Trump
* Erdogan
* Orban
* the Tories
* Italy's openly Fascist-parties (I'll let you off with the league unless you are actually calling M5s fascists)
* AFD
* Sweden Democrats

It seems to me a couple of those can't seriously be described as fascist... But they are also much more influential than the others.

[gaffo]

Why do evil right wing fascists always win elections - if not now, then in the near future?

* Trump getting voted in office.
* Turkish Erdogan voted by the general turkish population in- and outside of Turkey, to become a dictator.
* Hungary's Orban abolishing several democratic institutions and principles in a EU-country.
* British vote to first leave EU, then re-electing the Tories and win no-confidence vote.
* Italy's openly Fascist-parties with veneration for Mussolini, getting in office.
* AFD-party becoming the largest opposition party in Germany - threatening to topple the current government in the near future.
* Sweden Democrats becoming the largest opposition party in Sweden, threatening tot topple the current government in the near future.

What is it with Right Wing Fascism that makes it so much more popular than say left-wing liberalism?

Or to put it in another saying:

Why do evil people always win in this god-forsaken world?

Remember that Hitler, Mussolini and Franco enjoyed enourmous popularity even after WW2.
Several polls were made in the years 1946-1960 showing that Hitler enjoyed support from 50+ % of the German population.

No wonder why fascism persists even to this day. But I do wonder, why is Fascism so popular?

because most folks are sadly trailer trash rednecks - good in nature, but petty and allow their non-good nature to rule over their good.

result is what we see all over the world ;-/.

[gaffo]

Remember that Hitler, Mussolini and Franco enjoyed enourmous popularity even after WW2.
Several polls were made in the years 1946-1960 showing that Hitler enjoyed support from 50+ % of the German population.

No wonder why fascism persists even to this day. But I do wonder, why is Fascism so popular?

I value historical accuracy.

I'm ignorant of Franco - so will not speak about him and his spanish supporters (would love to learn from any folks that know of though).

per Hitler, yes you are right sadly.

per Mussolini, not so. he never had much popular support. why/how he remained in power (I know not - welcome anyone here that knows) - i only post to clarify facts of history, and per that Mussolini never had much popular support.

[artisticsolution]

They may win the battle but they don't necessarily win the war.

[gaffo]

Why do evil right wing fascists always win elections - if not now, then in the near future?

* Trump getting voted in office.
* Turkish Erdogan voted by the general turkish population in- and outside of Turkey, to become a dictator.
* Hungary's Orban abolishing several democratic institutions and principles in a EU-country.
* British vote to first leave EU, then re-electing the Tories and win no-confidence vote.
* Italy's openly Fascist-parties with veneration for Mussolini, getting in office.
* AFD-party becoming the largest opposition party in Germany - threatening to topple the current government in the near future.
* Sweden Democrats becoming the largest opposition party in Sweden, threatening tot topple the current government in the near future.

What is it with Right Wing Fascism that makes it so much more popular than say left-wing liberalism?

Fascism is an old and stale mindset - a failed one like communism. it offers stale ideas, and will fail.

there remains more leftwing liberals in the population of the world.

[nothing]

Fascism comes from the Left-Islam.

The Muhammadans believe their Qur'an is the most superior document on the face of the planet. Adolph Hitler and Muhammad were both male central figure orator warlords who committed genocide against Jews, thus your "fascism" problem exists on the Left as it is an Islamic problem it pathologically blames on everyone else, just like "Islamophobia".

The House of Islam sank all of its jihad resources into attacking Trump because Trump knows about the global jihad (why he ran against Islam's wh*re couple the Clintons) and poisons the minds of ignorant "believers" into hatred and divisiveness: the same illness that defines Islam which is infecting the entire planet, hence China designating Islam a global humanitarian crisis.

[Immanuel Can]

Fascism is National Socialism. Its symbols are collectivist, as is its ideology.

It's Leftism with a nationalist focus, instead of Leftism with an international focus...which would be Communism.

So the "right wing" isn't even involved in Fascism.

[IvoryBlackBishop]

Why do evil right wing fascists always win elections - if not now, then in the near future?

* Trump getting voted in office.

What are his fascist policies?

* Turkish Erdogan voted by the general turkish population in- and outside of Turkey, to become a dictator.

Dictators aren't automatically "fascist" or "right-wing", such as Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc.

* Hungary's Orban abolishing several democratic institutions and principles in a EU-country.

What was abolished?

* British vote to first leave EU, then re-electing the Tories and win no-confidence vote.

How is leaving the EU "fascist"? That's governmental downsizing, and as far as I'm aware of historically, doesn't have anything specifically to do with a political ideology (e.x. Quebec nearly voted in referendum to leave Canada, for example, and I don't believe it had anything to do with "facsim").

So you're saying a "Tory" or conservative is the same as a "fascist"?

What is it with Right Wing Fascism that makes it so much more popular than say left-wing liberalism?

How are you defining "left-wing liberalism", and what's the difference between it and "right wing liberalism", as opposed to "right wing fascism"?

Or to put it in another saying:

Why do evil people always win in this god-forsaken world?

If they actually did in reality, which I'm confident they don't, then everything "good" would already be gone; since your concerns are about things you believe to be "good" potentially being gone, but not already gone, then obviously they don't always "win", or fascism would not be a "potential" scenario, it would already be the status quo.

Remember that Hitler, Mussolini and Franco enjoyed enourmous popularity even after WW2.
Several polls were made in the years 1946-1960 showing that Hitler enjoyed support from 50+ % of the German population.

No wonder why fascism persists even to this day. But I do wonder, why is Fascism so popular?

Most likely because it's an abused term that has lost any meaning or significance (e.x. if, to the "radical left", anyone an inch to the right of Maximillian Robespierre is automatically a "fascist", then no remotely sane or well-adjusted normal person will take the term seriously anymore, nor "Nazi").

[bahman]

You cannot get ride of fascism unless you become a fascist yourself. It is genetic.

[commonsense]

Which of Trump's policies are 'right wing'?

His alliance with Putin is enough.
Putin's government is right wing. He wants to restore the Tzarist Empire.

Trump also handed out tax cuts for the wealthy, hate immigrants, is a nationalist amongst other stuff that really do belong to the right wingers.

He also refuse to do anything about the climate changes and pollution in general. Support the arms lobby and the big corporations + private oil companies.

So it's guilt by association? He's a nationalist? Aren't all Americans? What you are describing is 'business as usual', American style.

No, yes, no and false.

The guilt is by definition. A person who supports right wing policies at the expense of left wing policies is a right wing person. It is also incidentally true that this person will associate predominantly with others of similar thinking.

Yes, he’s a nationalist (and a populist, too).

Not all Americans are patriotic. Some consider Americanism to be a subset of humanism. Some consider their immediate family to be more important than anything else. Some are apathetic.

What is being described is normal right wing interest.

[commonsense]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification

A majority in the years 1945–49 stated National Socialism to have been a good idea

Source:
Judt, Tony (2007), Postwar: a History of Europe since 1945, Pimlico, p. 58, ISBN 1446418022

The majority of those polled said HIllary would win also.

But the majority of those who voted chose Hillary.

[commonsense]

Even if you could interview a representative sample you can't get from "X was good idea badly implemented" to "we support Hitler".

True, definitely true.

[commonsense]

Several polls were made in the years 1946-1960 showing that Hitler enjoyed support from 50+ % of the German population.

None of the polls show that.

Some of the polls support "A majority in the years 1945–49 stated National Socialism to have been a good idea but badly applied".

That is agreement with policies, disagreement with implementation.
That is not the same as supporting Hitler.

Yes.

[commonsense]

None. The ones answering in the U.S. conducted surveys we must assume were also the ones electing Hitler in the first place.

And one must also assume that the people who voted for Hitler in 1930 are also the same people who said National Socialism was a good idea, badly implemented in 1946.

You are equating supporting National Socialism with supporting Hitler.

I agree.