DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

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Re: DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

Post by Dachshund » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:11 pm

Walker wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:24 pm
Climate could be the significant factor for achievement.

Northern climes require and promote tenacity.

Equatorial tropics are more mañana oriented.
Yes, exactly. In the case of the Vikings, for example, the harsh coldness of the Nordic climate and the rugged, barren Scandinavian landscape forged a warrior people who were extremely tough and filled with tremendous vitality and tenacity.The unrelenting hardness of the conditions of life, the often freezing temperatures, the constant adversity helped mould a rugged race, a people and culture that truly had "iron in it's soul", and, an intellect sharpened to the most extreme degree. The Vikings possessed the cold fervour of a restless, irrepressible passion for struggling, daring, striving and driving forward. This explains why they were such prolific and accomplished colonisers, setting sail in their long boats on voyages of exploration and adventure in search of new lands to conquer and riches to plunder. The Norsemen were endowed with a great energy and vitality and an adamantine "will to power". Having set his sight on achieving a great goal, the Viking would, using what ever mean to took -force, if necessary - overturn or destroy any barrier or obstacle that stood between himself and the successful accomplishment or attainment of his goal.

The Barbarians (Germanic tribes) who were predominantly based in Northern Europe like the Saxons, Angles and the Jutes also lived in a pretty cold climate (in addition to this, they all originally descended from the proto-Germanic speaking peoples of Scandinavia, so I would say they had some of the Viking traits above already wired into their personality trait "DNA")

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Re: DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

Post by Frank N Stein » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:42 pm

Dachshund wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:11 pm
Walker wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:24 pm
Climate could be the significant factor for achievement.

Northern climes require and promote tenacity.

Equatorial tropics are more mañana oriented.
Yes, exactly. In the case of the Vikings, for example, the harsh coldness of the Nordic climate and the rugged, barren Scandinavian landscape forged a warrior people who were extremely tough and filled with tremendous vitality and tenacity.The unrelenting hardness of the conditions of life, the often freezing temperatures, the constant adversity helped mould a rugged race, a people and culture that truly had "iron in it's soul", and, an intellect sharpened to the most extreme degree. The Vikings possessed the cold fervour of a restless, irrepressible passion for struggling, daring, striving and driving forward. This explains why they were such prolific and accomplished colonisers, setting sail in their long boats on voyages of exploration and adventure in search of new lands to conquer and riches to plunder. The Norsemen were endowed with a great energy and vitality and an adamantine "will to power". Having set his sight on achieving a great goal, the Viking would, using what ever mean to took -force, if necessary - overturn or destroy any barrier or obstacle that stood between himself and the successful accomplishment or attainment of his goal.

The Barbarians (Germanic tribes) who were predominantly based in Northern Europe like the Saxons, Angles and the Jutes also lived in a pretty cold climate (in addition to this, they all originally descended from the proto-Germanic speaking peoples of Scandinavia, so I would say they had some of the Viking traits above already wired into their personality trait "DNA")

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Oh FFS. ALL humans were 'tough' back then. What's with the bullshit 'Viking-worship'?
Nazi propaganda doesn't belong on here.

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Re: DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

Post by Greta » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:06 pm

Each culture has its own soul?

I would say that most nations have a two quite distinct souls - conservatives and progressives. I would say that progressives from, say, Africa and Europe would get along just fine. By contrast, conservatives of variant cultures tend to dislike each other intensely :lol:

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Re: DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

Post by FlashDangerpants » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:10 pm

Walker wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:24 pm
Climate could be the significant factor for achievement.

Northern climes require and promote tenacity.

Equatorial tropics are more mañana oriented.
Sp is this you explicitly endorsing a racialist agenda Walker?

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Re: DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

Post by Walker » Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:44 pm

Heavens no. Your projections do not define understanding.

It means a human must keep moving to keep warm. Of course these days technology has outstripped evolution. People just stay indoors and have the heat delivered.

In olden days when people moved to keep warm, things got built. Things got done.

Always look to the climate and to the silver lining, which is perhaps an oxymoron for a Prog.

Of course way up north where it gets really cold the Vikings were like the polar bears, all take and no building. Farther north into ludicrous cold, the igloos are polar bear brunch, crunchy on the outside with a soft chewy center*.

*credit Gary Larson

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Re: DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

Post by FlashDangerpants » Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:13 pm

Walker wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:44 pm
Heavens no. Your projections do not define understanding.

It means a human must keep moving to keep warm. Of course these days technology has outstripped evolution. People just stay indoors and have the heat delivered.

In olden days when people moved to keep warm, things got built. Things got done.

Always look to the climate and to the silver lining, which is perhaps an oxymoron for a Prog.

Of course way up north where it gets really cold the Vikings were like the polar bears, all take and no building. Farther north into ludicrous cold, the igloos are polar bear brunch, crunchy on the outside with a soft chewy center*.

*credit Gary Larson
Uh huh. So you are of the opinion, shared with Daschund the white supremacist, that white people are more vigorous and industrious than brown people. And what you are doing is discussing the reasons with him for why that might be.

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Re: DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

Post by Walker » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:20 am

FlashDangerpants wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:13 pm
Walker wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:44 pm
Heavens no. Your projections do not define understanding.

It means a human must keep moving to keep warm. Of course these days technology has outstripped evolution. People just stay indoors and have the heat delivered.

In olden days when people moved to keep warm, things got built. Things got done.

Always look to the climate and to the silver lining, which is perhaps an oxymoron for a Prog.

Of course way up north where it gets really cold the Vikings were like the polar bears, all take and no building. Farther north into ludicrous cold, the igloos are polar bear brunch, crunchy on the outside with a soft chewy center*.

*credit Gary Larson
Uh huh. So you are of the opinion, shared with Daschund the white supremacist, that white people are more vigorous and industrious than brown people. And what you are doing is discussing the reasons with him for why that might be.
I am of the opinion of what I wrote, asshole, not what you wrote. Now fuck off. You're still a nasty little germ.

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Re: DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

Post by Dachshund » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:08 am

FlashDangerpants wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:13 pm
Walker wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:44 pm
Heavens no. Your projections do not define understanding.

It means a human must keep moving to keep warm. Of course these days technology has outstripped evolution. People just stay indoors and have the heat delivered.

In olden days when people moved to keep warm, things got built. Things got done.

Always look to the climate and to the silver lining, which is perhaps an oxymoron for a Prog.

Of course way up north where it gets really cold the Vikings were like the polar bears, all take and no building. Farther north into ludicrous cold, the igloos are polar bear brunch, crunchy on the outside with a soft chewy center*.

*credit Gary Larson
Uh huh. So you are of the opinion, shared with Daschund the white supremacist, that white people are more vigorous and industrious than brown people. And what you are doing is discussing the reasons with him for why that might be.
These days, the term "white supremacist" is a term of abuse chiefly used by the political left in America to portray anyone who is critical of multicultural ideology or non- white immigration as an irrational extremist. Labelling someone a "white supremacist" essentially means you are putting them in the same category those people who are members of violent, hate groups like the KKK or any of the various American neo- Nazi organizations. Even though the Second World War ended over 70 years ago, when an American hears the words "white supremacist" today, the horrific imagery of Hitler and his Holocaust are still brought rapidly to mind either explicitly or implicitly. Thus, to brand someone a "white supremacist, is basically to condemn them an evil and insane criminal psychopath.

If you were to ask me, "Do you think that Western culture is objectively superior to the cultures of all other ethnic/racial groups that have existed in the entire history of human civilisation?" I would have to say that I do think this , because it is a claim that can be confirmed EMPIRICALLY as a matter of FACT by using objective standards like: EFFICIENCY; INFLUENCE; EMULATION and POWER. I can illustrate this in detail for you if you would like?

Before I go on I would just like to clarify some terminology that is often confused, namely the terms: "culture" and "civilisation" as follows...

A certain racial group X has its own distinctive culture ,"X-culture", this refers to all of the manifestations of intellectual achievement that the "X" race have produced: arts, literature, science, technology, cosmology, philosophy, fine arts, as well as all of the "X" race's customs, institutions, social mores and manners. It is only when the people of racial group "X" start to construct big, SUBSTANTIAL THINGS THAT ARE INTENDED TO LAST that they can be said to have begun building a civilisation. For example, things like stone Cathedrals (such as Canterbury and St Alban's Cathedral in medieval England), the giant pyramids ( of the ancient Egyptian culture)the many large, permanent bridges, road systems, aqueducts and entertainment venues like the Colosseum that were constructed in the ancient Roman Empire, large stone temples ( for example, the large marble Doric temples of ancient Athens or those built by the Aztec culture in Mexico or the ancient Khmer culture in Cambodia), mausoleums (like the immense Taj Mahal in India)) and so on. Basically I'm talking about what we today call physical infrastructure. Our racial/ethnic group "X" will only have created an "X" civilisation, when their culture has managed to construct a substantial quantity of physical infrastructure ( palaces temples, churches, government buildings, water-supply systems, bridges, sanitation system, grain storage silos and so on). The Vikings of Scandinavia, for instance, developed a very strong and unique culture, but there never was a Viking civilisation , simply because the Vikings never did set down any permanent physical infrastructure that was designed to endure over time. ( They were far too busy setting sail in their longboats and roaming the seas in search of coastal settlements where they could run "bezerk", i.e; slaughter, rape, destroy, pillage and plunder to their heart's content !) around in their longboat looking for if Western culture is objectively superior to all other cultures, and if we say that Western civilisation began around 1000 AD in Western Europe ( which is what most mainstream historians would argue).

OK, so returning now to the point I was making about the superiority of Western culture. Western CIVILISATION (as I defined the term "civilisation above) began about 1000 AD in Western Europe, because this was was when large -scale, distinctively Western infrastructure like big Cathedrals, etc, started to pop up all over Western Europe.(Most expert, mainstream historians agree with , BTW) So, Western civilisation is around 1100 years old. In that time the cultural achievements of Westerners have totally eclipsed those of any other racial/ethnic cultural group, and, as I said to you above, I can prove this for you using empirical evidence and objective standards/criteria of evaluation that no reasonable person could possibly argue were in any way biased or prejudiced. It therefore follows, if one is happy with the objective standards that were used that, the Western European race who are the embodiment of Western culture are a superior race of human beings when compared to all other non -White (non - Western European descended) racial or ethnic groups.

What my beef is with the whole race issue is this. If I were to go on national television in the US and say: "I can prove that white, West European descended race is objectively superior to any of the world's coloured races." I would promptly be denounced by every major newspaper and electronic media outlet in America as a crazy, hate-fuelled white supremacist. I would also probably be charged with breaking some kind of racial discrimination or hate speech law and end up in court. I would be labelled a fascist, a Nazi, a KKK sympathiser, a violent hate-monger - just about every vile insult one could imagine would be hurled at me.

Obviously, I would never do anything so foolish; but the point is that if you are a white American ( i.e. an American of white Northern/Western European descent) it is essentially forbidden in the US today to affirm a sense of pride in your own racial identity. It is not OK, to openly say "I'm proud of my white European (Western) race and culture; and I am proud of my people. I am proud, as well, of what The West has achieved and of everything that The West has ever stood for. Saying things like this will also get you branded an anti-social "white supremacist". In fact the only thing that Whites in America are allowed to do is feel "white guilt" for the past crimes of their civilisation (like the genocidal depopulation of native Indian peoples in the Americas by Western colonisers after 1492, the slave trade in the United States etc;) beg forgiveness and confess how inherently vile and evil their own race is, or, feel ashamed of their unjustifiable "white privilege" (i.e; the claim that White Americans enjoy special rights, advantages and immunities that are not available to non-Whites).

When the Founding Fathers created the republic of the United States they explicitly intended that their new nation should remain a white European state, and until 1965 it was. Then, In 1965, radical leftist immigration legislation was passed by Democrat President Lyndon Johnston, this legislation opened America's borders to mass immigration from non-white foreign nations (including third world state). AS a result, LBJ had just signed a death warrant for his own nation. American was increasingly swamped with non-white/ European migrants over the following decades.Today, there are something like 50 million "mixed-race Afro-Americans", 40 million Mexicans and ^6 million Muslims living in the US. Population studies have predicted that by the year 2042 white -European will become a demographic minority group. To put it bluntly America has past the point of no return, unless they take some action to preserve themselves, white-European American can their Western culture will inevitably become extinct in North America due to miscegenation. Some experts forecast that this elimination of the White race and its Western cultural traditions and norms could be completed in about 200 years time.

As I said at the start of this post, I am not a white supremacist; rather I would define myself as a white "advocate". I believe that the white-European race is worth preserving and that American white must face up to the fact that "demography is destiny." If white Americans wish to preserve their unique Western cultural traditions and values and be able to pass on the best of what this culture has produced over the centuries to their children and their grandchildren and future generations there is only one option I can see. White Americans must start to understand they will need to build a white ethnostate for themselves somewhere in North America; it's either that, or - as they say in the football - it's "Goodnight Vienna."

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Re: DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

Post by Dachshund » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:14 am

Please ignore the last sentence in paragraph 4 of my post above; it should have been deleted !

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Re: DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

Post by Frank N Stein » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:06 pm

Dachshund wrote:
Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:08 am
FlashDangerpants wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:13 pm
Walker wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:44 pm
Heavens no. Your projections do not define understanding.

It means a human must keep moving to keep warm. Of course these days technology has outstripped evolution. People just stay indoors and have the heat delivered.

In olden days when people moved to keep warm, things got built. Things got done.

Always look to the climate and to the silver lining, which is perhaps an oxymoron for a Prog.

Of course way up north where it gets really cold the Vikings were like the polar bears, all take and no building. Farther north into ludicrous cold, the igloos are polar bear brunch, crunchy on the outside with a soft chewy center*.

*credit Gary Larson
Uh huh. So you are of the opinion, shared with Daschund the white supremacist, that white people are more vigorous and industrious than brown people. And what you are doing is discussing the reasons with him for why that might be.
These days, the term "white supremacist" is a term of abuse chiefly used by the political left in America to portray anyone who is critical of multicultural ideology or non- white immigration as an irrational extremist. Labelling someone a "white supremacist" essentially means you are putting them in the same category those people who are members of violent, hate groups like the KKK or any of the various American neo- Nazi organizations. Even though the Second World War ended over 70 years ago, when an American hears the words "white supremacist" today, the horrific imagery of Hitler and his Holocaust are still brought rapidly to mind either explicitly or implicitly. Thus, to brand someone a "white supremacist, is basically to condemn them an evil and insane criminal psychopath.

If you were to ask me, "Do you think that Western culture is objectively superior to the cultures of all other ethnic/racial groups that have existed in the entire history of human civilisation?" I would have to say that I do think this , because it is a claim that can be confirmed EMPIRICALLY as a matter of FACT by using objective standards like: EFFICIENCY; INFLUENCE; EMULATION and POWER. I can illustrate this in detail for you if you would like?

Before I go on I would just like to clarify some terminology that is often confused, namely the terms: "culture" and "civilisation" as follows...

A certain racial group X has its own distinctive culture ,"X-culture", this refers to all of the manifestations of intellectual achievement that the "X" race have produced: arts, literature, science, technology, cosmology, philosophy, fine arts, as well as all of the "X" race's customs, institutions, social mores and manners. It is only when the people of racial group "X" start to construct big, SUBSTANTIAL THINGS THAT ARE INTENDED TO LAST that they can be said to have begun building a civilisation. For example, things like stone Cathedrals (such as Canterbury and St Alban's Cathedral in medieval England), the giant pyramids ( of the ancient Egyptian culture)the many large, permanent bridges, road systems, aqueducts and entertainment venues like the Colosseum that were constructed in the ancient Roman Empire, large stone temples ( for example, the large marble Doric temples of ancient Athens or those built by the Aztec culture in Mexico or the ancient Khmer culture in Cambodia), mausoleums (like the immense Taj Mahal in India)) and so on. Basically I'm talking about what we today call physical infrastructure. Our racial/ethnic group "X" will only have created an "X" civilisation, when their culture has managed to construct a substantial quantity of physical infrastructure ( palaces temples, churches, government buildings, water-supply systems, bridges, sanitation system, grain storage silos and so on). The Vikings of Scandinavia, for instance, developed a very strong and unique culture, but there never was a Viking civilisation , simply because the Vikings never did set down any permanent physical infrastructure that was designed to endure over time. ( They were far too busy setting sail in their longboats and roaming the seas in search of coastal settlements where they could run "bezerk", i.e; slaughter, rape, destroy, pillage and plunder to their heart's content !) around in their longboat looking for if Western culture is objectively superior to all other cultures, and if we say that Western civilisation began around 1000 AD in Western Europe ( which is what most mainstream historians would argue).

OK, so returning now to the point I was making about the superiority of Western culture. Western CIVILISATION (as I defined the term "civilisation above) began about 1000 AD in Western Europe, because this was was when large -scale, distinctively Western infrastructure like big Cathedrals, etc, started to pop up all over Western Europe.(Most expert, mainstream historians agree with , BTW) So, Western civilisation is around 1100 years old. In that time the cultural achievements of Westerners have totally eclipsed those of any other racial/ethnic cultural group, and, as I said to you above, I can prove this for you using empirical evidence and objective standards/criteria of evaluation that no reasonable person could possibly argue were in any way biased or prejudiced. It therefore follows, if one is happy with the objective standards that were used that, the Western European race who are the embodiment of Western culture are a superior race of human beings when compared to all other non -White (non - Western European descended) racial or ethnic groups.

What my beef is with the whole race issue is this. If I were to go on national television in the US and say: "I can prove that white, West European descended race is objectively superior to any of the world's coloured races." I would promptly be denounced by every major newspaper and electronic media outlet in America as a crazy, hate-fuelled white supremacist. I would also probably be charged with breaking some kind of racial discrimination or hate speech law and end up in court. I would be labelled a fascist, a Nazi, a KKK sympathiser, a violent hate-monger - just about every vile insult one could imagine would be hurled at me.

Obviously, I would never do anything so foolish; but the point is that if you are a white American ( i.e. an American of white Northern/Western European descent) it is essentially forbidden in the US today to affirm a sense of pride in your own racial identity. It is not OK, to openly say "I'm proud of my white European (Western) race and culture; and I am proud of my people. I am proud, as well, of what The West has achieved and of everything that The West has ever stood for. Saying things like this will also get you branded an anti-social "white supremacist". In fact the only thing that Whites in America are allowed to do is feel "white guilt" for the past crimes of their civilisation (like the genocidal depopulation of native Indian peoples in the Americas by Western colonisers after 1492, the slave trade in the United States etc;) beg forgiveness and confess how inherently vile and evil their own race is, or, feel ashamed of their unjustifiable "white privilege" (i.e; the claim that White Americans enjoy special rights, advantages and immunities that are not available to non-Whites).

When the Founding Fathers created the republic of the United States they explicitly intended that their new nation should remain a white European state, and until 1965 it was. Then, In 1965, radical leftist immigration legislation was passed by Democrat President Lyndon Johnston, this legislation opened America's borders to mass immigration from non-white foreign nations (including third world state). AS a result, LBJ had just signed a death warrant for his own nation. American was increasingly swamped with non-white/ European migrants over the following decades.Today, there are something like 50 million "mixed-race Afro-Americans", 40 million Mexicans and ^6 million Muslims living in the US. Population studies have predicted that by the year 2042 white -European will become a demographic minority group. To put it bluntly America has past the point of no return, unless they take some action to preserve themselves, white-European American can their Western culture will inevitably become extinct in North America due to miscegenation. Some experts forecast that this elimination of the White race and its Western cultural traditions and norms could be completed in about 200 years time.

As I said at the start of this post, I am not a white supremacist; rather I would define myself as a white "advocate". I believe that the white-European race is worth preserving and that American white must face up to the fact that "demography is destiny." If white Americans wish to preserve their unique Western cultural traditions and values and be able to pass on the best of what this culture has produced over the centuries to their children and their grandchildren and future generations there is only one option I can see. White Americans must start to understand they will need to build a white ethnostate for themselves somewhere in North America; it's either that, or - as they say in the football - it's "Goodnight Vienna."
Of course someone can criticize so-called 'multiculturalism' and uncontrolled immigration without being a white supremacist. Anyone with half a brain can see the problems those things cause. It has little to do with colour however. eg. If a left-leaning, liberal country is suddently flooded with right-wing white South Africans, what effect is that going to have on that country's elections and way of life? If a secular country is flooded with religious exremists what then? Countries evolve their own character and personality over time. Mass immigration only transfers the problems of one country onto another. There are also the problems of infrastructure, jobs, housing etc. etc. with open-door immigration. People who have never paid a dime in taxes reaping the benefits of those who have. It's actually a form of parasitism.
My problem is with your simplistic, extreme right-wing rubbish assertions. It is cultures with vastly different values and politics that don't mix well, and that doesn't mean that any one 'colour' is any better than the others. How do you define 'white' anyway? Were the ancient Greeks 'white'? What about the Spaniards? What colour were the ancient Egyptians? They did things we can't do today. There are many examples of ancient civilizations doing things that seem impossible to us today.

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Re: DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

Post by SpheresOfBalance » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:33 pm

Dachshund wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:24 am
"Diversity is our Greatest Strength !". This is the mantra that is continuously chanted by mainstream academics, journalists, educators and politicians in the United States today, and they mean all kinds if diversity: language; religion; culture; sexuality and in particular, race. Of course, when you ask them to explain what exactly is so great about about having 40 million Mexicans living in America, or how it is that 6 million Muslims improve the lives of the American people, you wont get and answer, you'll probably just get yelled at for asking the question.
It's amazing that you believe that you can actually speak for ALL Americans. Should I call you GOD instead of DOG? Get it? Dachshund = dog! Dog is god spelled backwards! And you speak as if your diatribe is necessarily definitive of every single American. I could go on and deal with the rest of your paper, but I'm afraid that this first paragraph has set the pace/tone for the rest of it. See how that feels? Did you get it? ;-) :lol:

The reason you wont get an answer is because diversity is not a strength, it's a weakness. Without racial diversity there would be: no race riots; no dangerous inner cities; no "Black Lives Matter" protests; no prejudicial "Affirmative Action" programs; no worries about whether there are too many Asians at Harvard and not enough Hispanics on television; no racial discrimination law suits, no compulsory diversity training. There would also be no "White Guilt", no "White Privilege", in fact there would be no racial conflict or tension at all. Can you imagine such a peaceful, unified and carefree United States ! Admittedly, there would be fewer Mexican restaurant and the US might not win so many medals in the Olympic Games, but I think most Americans could live with that.

Just look at what racial diversity is doing to American politics. The Democrats have become the non- White party, 90 - 95% of Black African - American and 70% of Hispanics and Asians now vote Democrat. At the same time, the Republican party is increasing becoming the White people's party, a number of authoritative, mainstream American political analysts are now forecasting that within a decade, 80% of White (European descended) Americans will vote Republic. So it appears that racial diversity is already rendering elections in America merely a "racial headcount" and not a choice between different ways to govern a country.

The whole myth that racial diversity is a strength has been debunked by many recent research studies, perhaps the most decisive evidence comes from a research investigation conducted by eminent Harvard sociologist, Professor Robert Putnam who conducted a large study involving over 30,000 Americans from a broad range of communities, ranging from those in Southern towns of America that were essentially all White to those that were racially very racially diverse, such as the central districts of Los Angeles. When Putnam had collected all of his data, and began to look through it, he was deeply shocked what he found. He had been expecting (and indeed hoping) to find that increased levels of racial diversity has a positive effect on community life. What he found, however was robust evidence that racial diversity destroys trust in communities. The findings from his study clearly demonstrated that people who live is areas of high racial diversity, like Los Angeles don't trust their neighbours. Moreover they don't trust their politicians, they have few close friends, they don't get involved in their community, they don't do charity/volunteer work and they are less likely to vote. About the only thing that they do more of are go on protest marches and stay at home watching television. Putnam was so astonished by his research results that to begin, he simply could not believe them, he felt there there must be some other factor at work - something he had overlooked - apart from racial diversity, that would explain his results. He then spent literally years hunting for some alternative explanation that could account for research finding. Ultimately, however, after 6 years searching, Putnam could not find any social factor, apart from the degree racial diversity, to explain the variation of levels of trust in communities that his research data confirmed. He then finally published his research in 2007 in the high-impact journal, Scandinavian Political Studies as in paper entitled : "E Pluribus Unum: Diversity and Community in the 21st Century." (cf: June 2007 30(2); pp. 134 - 174) Since Putnam's paper was published, other researcher from around the world have confirmed the same phenomenon, that is. there is a direct relationship between levels of diversity racial, ethnic, religious, tribal) in a community and the level of trust that prevail. As diversity is increased, levels of trust are diminished.

Diversity destroys trust; with enough diversity in a society, people stop having much of anything in common, and ultimately diversity destroys CULTURE. Here's an example. Consider the buildings that house the three branches of American government: the US Supreme Court building; the Executive mansion or the "White House"; the legislative branch in Congress and The Senate. These buildings could have been built ONLY in a country that drew its culture directly from Western Europe ( i.e. "The West") which is a culture that has one of its primal foundations in the culture of ancient Greco-Roman antiquity. The architecture of all these three building was strongly influenced by by the Classical style of ancient Athens and from other great Western
cultural traditions such as the 16th century Palladian architectural style which is incorporated into design of the White House You will see the same thing in other American public buildings like the National Gallery and even the Department of Agriculture building, both of which bring to mind the Doric Temples of ancient Athens.

Note that these buildings were all erected before America decided that "diversity is our greatest strength". They were constructed at a time when the American people knew that they were a Western European people, and when they were very proud to identify themselves as such - as Westerners". They were very proud, as well, of their Western cultural heritage and the extraordinary achievements their of culture over the millennia. But how long will it be, I wonder, before the increasing non-White/European country that America is becoming begins to openly denounce buildings like Congress and the White House as offensive White-Supremacist architecture that must be destroyed and replaced with something more "politically correct" and "multicultural" I can see it now, the White House, Congress , the Senate, the US Supreme Court building and the National Gallery ( and public building that looks like them) being bull-dozed into the ground and replaced with buildings that are intended to suit all of the different racial/ethnic groups. What would these new building look like? I think you might get a good idea if you google up the images of building like these: (1) The Supreme Court of Brazil (2) the parliament building of Bangladesh or, say, (3) the Opera House of Taiwan and (4) the United Nations building. What we have in these buildings is a good example of the appalling ugliness and cultural vacuousness of modernist architecture. Buildings like these are the products of a soulless, "machine" architectonic. They are aesthetic eye-sores which have no roots in any distinctive cultural tradition. These buildings could be placed anywhere or nowhere, - they are what some traditional architects call "junkspace". They have no conceivable connection with unique cultural/ethnic identity of the native people in those countries. This is what architecture for a racially diverse society that celebrates multiculturalism looks like, i.e. like something a bored 4-year old could design in 30 minute at kindergarten.

On the other hand, countries that don't celebrate diversity can still have a national architecture. Take for example the swimming pool enclosure at the Ritz Carlton in Saudi Arabia. This is a space fitted with vaulted columns of glowing, polished marble and a splendid arabesque aesthetic that immediately brings to mind the exotic beauty of a niche in an medieval Islamic mosque. Even Saddam Hussein's former palaces in Baghdad had deep aesthetic foundations in his culture. These palaces are all large buildings that draw on a variety of traditional architectural styles including Moorish, Timurid (Turkistani), ancient Iraqi Mesopotamian and Ottoman. While in Asia, the distinctively styled Korean President's house, known as "The Blue House" (Cheung Wa Dee) is a striking example of a wooded building that was constructed using the traditional curving, sloped forms of the "hipped-and -gabled" architectural style. These building look like they belong in the country they were built in Meanwhile, back in the US, we have to quote Prince Charles a "monstrous carbuncle" like the Afro - American Museum in Washington DC. Here is a build that is completely divorced from the Western (European) cultural tradition; it doesn't look like anything in particular except a large nondescript , lurid, bronze/gold (?) -clad, roughly - rectangular. And this is what happens to every element of a culture when its heart is cut out.

What will the "Multi - Cultis" put in the Afro-American Museum, I wonder? Will it be the most beautiful art or political "Affirmative Action" or "Black Live Matter" art? Music, movies, drama, the fine arts, novels they all have to satisfy everyone, which means they wont satisfy anyone. Who listens to "Classical" music in America ? Whites and some Asians. The great fugues of Handel, Beethoven and Wagner, amongst others,are culturally speaking, quintessentially Western. A piece of music like Richards Wagner's, "Flight of the Valkyries", is, without doubt, one of the purest expressions of the true soul of Western culture to have ever been composed. There was once a world-class symphony orchestra in Oakland, (California), but it went bust when Oakland's leftist hipsters decided the town should become "vibrant"

Have you ever wondered why it is so many of today's American movies are violent, special - effects extravaganzas ? It's because they're made for a world market - the least common denominator. An important part of the world market is China and recently (last year) the Wall Street Journal was reporting (quote): "Hollywood under Pressure to put More Chinese Actors in the Spotlight."

And it's even worse when you have the whole world living in your country. Nothing survives, anything of value is ground away in the churning and mixing. Multiculturalism does not mean that authentic national/cultural traditions exist side-by-side, it means that all traditions are worn away and destroyed.

I support TRUE diversity. I want to see Japan remain distinctly and proudly Japanese. I want the same for Nigeria, England, Somalia and Denmark. Every culture, no matter how strange it my seem to us (Westerners) is beautiful to its own people and deserves to survive. Could the Buddhist way of life as it is practised in Tibet ever survive the onslaught of mass immigration, racial/ethnic diversity and multiculturalism?

What the left in America calls "diversity" is the mindless destruction of everything in their country that is rooted, that is authentic, that is judged to be of value and therefore worth preserving, that has risen out of a shared heritage over countless generations. Real diversity requires a commitment to conserving/preserving the common legacy of a distinct people and their culture. The irony is that his is something America seem to understand perfectly well when it comes to protecting the unique cultural traditions of OTHER peoples in foreign countries. When in 1965, for example, the people of Thailand were threatened with a armed communist insurgency that was absolutely intent on destroying every element of their traditional culture and way of life, the US military promptly arrive to help defend the Thai people from the communist aggressors and did leave until the threat had been neutralised in 1983. Likewise in Bolivia (1966-7), South Zaire (1978) and Cambodia (1967-75).

What America does not seem to understand is that for the past 50 odd years (since 1965), an internal Neo-Marxist insurgency has been waging an increasingly successful cultural war within its own borders; a war whose ultimate goal is to destroy the United States Western/European nation; to destroy its traditional Western (European) culture. America is now being swamped by immigration from non-Western nations, and everything that Americans cherish, everything they have striven for and built since the birth of their nation in 1776 will be lost. It will be lost if European American turn their own country over to people who are NOT Americans. Ultimately, Americans will lose themselves. If non-White (European) immigration continues at the pace it has done and every institution in the US promotes inter-marriage between races in 200 years there will be no White?European Americans in North America. There will still be Asians (Japanese, Chinese), Africans, Latinos, Amerindians etc; in the world because most of them live in countries that don't celebrate diversity. But the White American will disappear from the US and so will his culture - Western culture. Western culture, the greatest, and most objectively superior culture that has ever emerged in the entire history of human civilization will disappear from North America.


Regards


Dachshund
P.S. My favorite food is Mexican. Seriously, along with an awesome frozen Margarita on the side.

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Re: DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

Post by FlashDangerpants » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:47 pm

Walker wrote:
Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:20 am
FlashDangerpants wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:13 pm
Walker wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:44 pm
Heavens no. Your projections do not define understanding.

It means a human must keep moving to keep warm. Of course these days technology has outstripped evolution. People just stay indoors and have the heat delivered.

In olden days when people moved to keep warm, things got built. Things got done.

Always look to the climate and to the silver lining, which is perhaps an oxymoron for a Prog.

Of course way up north where it gets really cold the Vikings were like the polar bears, all take and no building. Farther north into ludicrous cold, the igloos are polar bear brunch, crunchy on the outside with a soft chewy center*.

*credit Gary Larson
Uh huh. So you are of the opinion, shared with Daschund the white supremacist, that white people are more vigorous and industrious than brown people. And what you are doing is discussing the reasons with him for why that might be.
I am of the opinion of what I wrote, asshole, not what you wrote. Now fuck off. You're still a nasty little germ.
Daschund is a white supremacist who thinks that race determines various things about persons, this much is clear and obvious. He can bullshit about being a "white advocate" and imagine his racial separatism is predicated on some sort of separate-but-equal-ism if he wants, but only a total cretin would fall for that bollocks.

When you added your two cents on that, it was simply to provide an explanation for how that happens based on geographical latitude. That is clear and obvious as well.

When challenged on that, you doubled down with some stuff about Vikings having to put in effort to keep warm (see above).

So either withdraw the poorly chosen writings about racial determinism and geography. Or own what you did. don't be a pissy old wanker about the fact it was noticed though.

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Re: DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

Post by Frank N Stein » Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:17 pm

FlashDangerpants wrote:
Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:47 pm
Walker wrote:
Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:20 am
FlashDangerpants wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:13 pm

Uh huh. So you are of the opinion, shared with Daschund the white supremacist, that white people are more vigorous and industrious than brown people. And what you are doing is discussing the reasons with him for why that might be.
I am of the opinion of what I wrote, asshole, not what you wrote. Now fuck off. You're still a nasty little germ.
Daschund is a white supremacist who thinks that race determines various things about persons, this much is clear and obvious. He can bullshit about being a "white advocate" and imagine his racial separatism is predicated on some sort of separate-but-equal-ism if he wants, but only a total cretin would fall for that bollocks.

When you added your two cents on that, it was simply to provide an explanation for how that happens based on geographical latitude. That is clear and obvious as well.

When challenged on that, you doubled down with some stuff about Vikings having to put in effort to keep warm (see above).

So either withdraw the poorly chosen writings about racial determinism and geography. Or own what you did. don't be a pissy old wanker about the fact it was noticed though.
They do say that necessity is the mother of invention. What's wrong with that?

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Re: DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

Post by FlashDangerpants » Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:33 pm

Frank N Stein wrote:
Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:17 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote:
Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:47 pm
Walker wrote:
Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:20 am

I am of the opinion of what I wrote, asshole, not what you wrote. Now fuck off. You're still a nasty little germ.
Daschund is a white supremacist who thinks that race determines various things about persons, this much is clear and obvious. He can bullshit about being a "white advocate" and imagine his racial separatism is predicated on some sort of separate-but-equal-ism if he wants, but only a total cretin would fall for that bollocks.

When you added your two cents on that, it was simply to provide an explanation for how that happens based on geographical latitude. That is clear and obvious as well.

When challenged on that, you doubled down with some stuff about Vikings having to put in effort to keep warm (see above).

So either withdraw the poorly chosen writings about racial determinism and geography. Or own what you did. don't be a pissy old wanker about the fact it was noticed though.
They do say that necessity is the mother of invention. What's wrong with that?
What exactly are you getting at?

I didn't particularly expect you to buy into some notion that some random black guy in London or Berlin would be lazy on account of his ancestors living somewhere warm. That is Daschund's basic claim, he'll try and spin that he means something less ban-worthy, but you and I both know it is an accurate enough summary of what he intends you to understand once you dig beneath his flabby and tedious explanations.

Is cold weather the only source of necessity you or Walker can imagine? Perhaps the Vikings would have been yet more industrious had they also had to run away from tigers when they were developing that super special character of theirs which merely coincides with their pink skins and blue eyes.

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Re: DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

Post by Frank N Stein » Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:35 am

FlashDangerpants wrote:
Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:33 pm
Frank N Stein wrote:
Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:17 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote:
Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:47 pm

Daschund is a white supremacist who thinks that race determines various things about persons, this much is clear and obvious. He can bullshit about being a "white advocate" and imagine his racial separatism is predicated on some sort of separate-but-equal-ism if he wants, but only a total cretin would fall for that bollocks.

When you added your two cents on that, it was simply to provide an explanation for how that happens based on geographical latitude. That is clear and obvious as well.

When challenged on that, you doubled down with some stuff about Vikings having to put in effort to keep warm (see above).

So either withdraw the poorly chosen writings about racial determinism and geography. Or own what you did. don't be a pissy old wanker about the fact it was noticed though.
They do say that necessity is the mother of invention. What's wrong with that?
What exactly are you getting at?

I didn't particularly expect you to buy into some notion that some random black guy in London or Berlin would be lazy on account of his ancestors living somewhere warm. That is Daschund's basic claim, he'll try and spin that he means something less ban-worthy, but you and I both know it is an accurate enough summary of what he intends you to understand once you dig beneath his flabby and tedious explanations.

Is cold weather the only source of necessity you or Walker can imagine? Perhaps the Vikings would have been yet more industrious had they also had to run away from tigers when they were developing that super special character of theirs which merely coincides with their pink skins and blue eyes.
I know exactly what 'daschund' is saying and it's not that cold weather is a catalyst for technological advancement. Walker was merely making an observation. So what? Are you the thought police? Stop looking for white supremacists where there ain't none. They aren't exactly difficult to spot.
Are you suggesting that Indians are backwards?
I don't think we really know what the vikings looked like. We just assume that they were blonde and blue eyed for some reason. I think gingers were pretty common. They can't all have had blue eyes. I have quite a bit of viking ancestry but you would never guess that.

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