DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

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Dachshund wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:06 am
Frank N Stein wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:44 am


However, you hide your fear and hatred of women behind a desire to them women and deny them any kind of rights or independent value in life based on a spurious ideology entirely lacking any kind of actually basis beyond "the Bible said so" (never mind the ambiguities).

We know the ancients' idea of male and female energies - the male completely and utterly dominates and controls the female in every aspect of life aside from a tiny sliver of independence in doing what you would call "women's work" - cleaning toilets, servicing men like prostitutes and char-ladies 24/7 on demand, cleaning up garbage and excrement left by men, preparing food and cleaning up after mens' eating, making simple handicrafts and looking after babies.

Meanwhile, men - even the very stupid ones - may do all of the thinking, philosophising, learning that women must not be permitted, unless traitors to their gender. Nick's men make all decisions in all areas with zero input from women who, to you, are like children who should be seen and not heard.

Basically yours is it's a dream of empowerment to make up for a sense of impotence and weakness due to regular rejection by women. So you find an ancient ideology that fits with your fear and hatred of women to use as justification, to fight back and punish them by always advocating against any rights for them.

Greta,

Greta now that you've had your little rant against the evil, white, misogynist Western patriarchy, perhaps you could enlighten my male ignorance by giving just one example of a successful human civilization from the past 6000 years that was matriarchal?

Then you could explain to me why when women got the vote they all cast their ballot for the left and the bloated Nanny State.

And also, could you tell me why gender feminism in the US, for example, intentionally decimated the traditional nuclear family, which even Daffy Duck knew was an essential foundation for any civilized, orderly human society, by destroying the institution of marriage with "no fault" divorce legislation.

Why , exactly did so many Western Women naively swallow the cultural Marxist/hard-left gender feminist ideology (which, BTW, is probably the most absurd, hair-brained, antisocial doctrine I have ever encountered) and stop having children? Was it to purposively slash the white birth rate, so that white Americans could look forward to enjoying all the wonderful benefits of becoming a reviled and despised demographic minority in their own country and having Mexicans/Blacks tell them what they are, and are not, allowed to do?. Why would these women do something so incomprehensibly "suicidal"? Is it because, basically, they're just really STOOPID (like you, Greta?).

Western feminists who attacked, and continue to attack, the traditional patriarchy, consign countless thousands of young children from broken homes to worlds of tremendous suffering and not uncommonly, serious psychiatric illness induced by trauma. Why do they do this ? I thought women were supposed to be the kinder, gentler more compassionate sex?

How come so many feminists and women who hate men in the West, ended up on welfare (paid for by hard-earned, male tax dollars), struggling to make ends meet.

Oh yeah, and how come so many feminists turn themselves into ugly, fat slobs with green or blue hair, "Hammer and Sickle" T-Shirts and lots bad taste tattoos? They are enough to put any normal man off sex for months !!

Thanks if you can help with these queries.

Regards

Dachshund
Idiot. Why are you 'quoting' me when it's not my post?
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Re: DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

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Dachshund wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:19 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:53 am
Dachshund wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:13 am Now, The East End, for example, has become a no-go zone for native,white English (including the police) where Muslim radicals have openly declared Sharia law
That's inconvenient for me given I'm white and I live there. Am I not permitted to go home tonight?
Last year I got a BR train to Liverpool street Station from where I was living in Herts, got on the tube there and walked out of Aldgate East Tube Station with my son. Then we walked all the way the Whitechapel Rd to "The Blind Beggar" to have a pint for a lark because that's where one of the Kray twins (Reggie, I think?) shot and killed some gangster he had a row with inside the pub.. All the way up the Whitechapel Road EVERY lamp post was plastered in bright red: "WARNING YOU ARE NOW ENTERING A SHARIA LAW ZONE" stickers and there were large banners set up in fluoro orange along the Rd and everywhere in the vicinity saying the same thing. (The big East London Mosque is about halfway up the W Rd).

There are still Muslim vigilante groups roaming through the area at night, hassling whites who are doing anything that Islamic scripture/Sharia disapproves of like drinking beer, chatting up tarts, or, if you are a white female wearing mini-skirts or other sexy Western clothing, etc.

So yeah, of course you can go home to your digs in the East End, mate, but if you do happen to well and truly get the shit beaten out of you (or worse) just for being white and on the streets at night, then in my opinion you only have yourself to blame, - and, BTW, don't expect the Old Bill to patrolling the area and keeping an eye on any dodgy-looking local mujihadeen. You see, as a white man, you are not welcome in the East End of London anymore, buddy, not at all, because it is pretty much all radical Muslim turf now - ( esp the general region that includes: Aldgate, Shoreditch, Whitchapel, the residential housing around the A11 and the Commercial Road, Mile End, the Brick Lane Mosque and the back streets around it, the general area around the Old Spitalfields Market, ETC) ;as far as the "Jihadi Joes" are concerned you are a Kaffir (an Infidel) lower than a dog. To them you life is worth NOTHING, that's what they get taught every F**king at their Mosques.

Regards ( and Allah u Akbar !!)

Dachshund
Good. A deserving fate for America's little bitch. Karma is a wonderful thing. Didn't that little toe-rag Prince Harry 'serve' in Afghanistan? Perhaps you could write to Tony Blair about it. He must have been having some really great sex with Bush that it was worth destroying the ME over.
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Re: DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

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Frank N Stein wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:17 pm
Dachshund wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:06 am
Frank N Stein wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:44 amHowever, you hide your fear and hatred of women behind a desire to them women and deny them any kind of rights or independent value in life based on a spurious ideology entirely lacking any kind of actually basis beyond "the Bible said so" (never mind the ambiguities).

We know the ancients' idea of male and female energies - the male completely and utterly dominates and controls the female in every aspect of life aside from a tiny sliver of independence in doing what you would call "women's work" - cleaning toilets, servicing men like prostitutes and char-ladies 24/7 on demand, cleaning up garbage and excrement left by men, preparing food and cleaning up after mens' eating, making simple handicrafts and looking after babies.

Meanwhile, men - even the very stupid ones - may do all of the thinking, philosophising, learning that women must not be permitted, unless traitors to their gender. Nick's men make all decisions in all areas with zero input from women who, to you, are like children who should be seen and not heard.

Basically yours is it's a dream of empowerment to make up for a sense of impotence and weakness due to regular rejection by women. So you find an ancient ideology that fits with your fear and hatred of women to use as justification, to fight back and punish them by always advocating against any rights for them.
Greta,

Greta now that you've had your little rant against the evil, white, misogynist Western patriarchy, perhaps you could enlighten my male ignorance by giving just one example of a successful human civilization from the past 6000 years that was matriarchal?

Then you could explain to me why when women got the vote they all cast their ballot for the left and the bloated Nanny State.

And also, could you tell me why gender feminism in the US, for example, intentionally decimated the traditional nuclear family, which even Daffy Duck knew was an essential foundation for any civilized, orderly human society, by destroying the institution of marriage with "no fault" divorce legislation.

Why , exactly did so many Western Women naively swallow the cultural Marxist/hard-left gender feminist ideology (which, BTW, is probably the most absurd, hair-brained, antisocial doctrine I have ever encountered) and stop having children? Was it to purposively slash the white birth rate, so that white Americans could look forward to enjoying all the wonderful benefits of becoming a reviled and despised demographic minority in their own country and having Mexicans/Blacks tell them what they are, and are not, allowed to do?. Why would these women do something so incomprehensibly "suicidal"? Is it because, basically, they're just really STOOPID (like you, Greta?).

Western feminists who attacked, and continue to attack, the traditional patriarchy, consign countless thousands of young children from broken homes to worlds of tremendous suffering and not uncommonly, serious psychiatric illness induced by trauma. Why do they do this ? I thought women were supposed to be the kinder, gentler more compassionate sex?

How come so many feminists and women who hate men in the West, ended up on welfare (paid for by hard-earned, male tax dollars), struggling to make ends meet.

Oh yeah, and how come so many feminists turn themselves into ugly, fat slobs with green or blue hair, "Hammer and Sickle" T-Shirts and lots bad taste tattoos? They are enough to put any normal man off sex for months !!
Idiot. Why are you 'quoting' me when it's not my post?
Alas Frank, while somewhat articulate, he's not too sharp, hence the mindless emotive babble and inability to focus.

If we return to Earth from planet Dachshund, the nuclear family is actually a modern invention and a short-lived one. Today, single life and the extended family are increasingly seen as more do-able than nuclear families.

Divorce rates and marital unhappiness have made clear that the nuclear family as an institution is on borrowed time. There was a time when it seemed to work but the world has changed. Now young people today can't afford to buy a home or find a secure decent rentals, especially when many are working casually in a society that hasn't seen workers' wages rise for two decades while housing costs increased enormously.

Workers are ever more exploited by the neocons that Dachshund supports - and then he lashes the victims of his ideology for not forming nuclear families - which was never a fundamental building block of societies anyway, but a phase. What conservatives are too Dunning Krugered to comprehend is that correlation does not equal causation. Thus most of them can't understand that the nuclear family did not bring prosperity but was made possible by prosperity that allowed couples to escape the controls of extended family and be independent.

Those very good times are fading faster than expected, ironically thanks to the corruption of the religions, neoconservatives and fascists that Dachshund supports. Now the only way back to a nuclear family is a return to status and authority based on genitalia rather than merit, which is the main agenda.
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How come so many feminists and women who hate men in the West, ended up on welfare (paid for by hard-earned, male tax dollars), struggling to make ends meet.

Oh yeah, and how come so many feminists turn themselves into ugly, fat slobs with green or blue hair, "Hammer and Sickle" T-Shirts and lots bad taste tattoos? They are enough to put any normal man off sex for months !!
You must remember that the nuclear family is is only good for a society which values freedom and sustaining the inner quality necessary to preserve freedom. There are of course some women who desire to be free but they are a rarity. Since they bring children into the world their maternal instinct needs help. This is natural.

The state has become the alpha male. it has taken the place of the husband. It has feminized the husband into a money making slave afraid to be male. This is all by design. Once the state takes over the responsibility of the husband the wife will vote for whoever offers protection and guidance. Hello socialism.

Destruction of the nuclear family and having the state taking the place of the husband serves the same purpose as spirit killing in the young. The state becomes the Great God of the Great Beast and who argues with God? Not some woman who depends on her God.

Freedom requires responsibility. Men have forgotten theirs and women have also forgotten theirs in support of the nuclear family. They have sold out for the proverbial thirty pieces of silver and now even believe somehow that diversity will make matters better. Classic secular progressive education. Long live the Great God of the Great Beast. Now a BS degree has an entirely new more authentic meaning in the war against freedom.
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Frank N Stein wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:02 am
gaffo wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:14 am
Dachshund wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:24 am no "Black Lives Matter" protests; no prejudicial "Affirmative Action" programs; no worries about whether there are too many Asians at Harvard and not enough Hispanics on television; no racial discrimination law suits, no compulsory diversity training. There would also be no "White Guilt", no "White Privilege", in fact there would be no racial conflict or tension at all. Can you imagine such a peaceful, unified and carefree United States ! Admittedly, there would be fewer Mexican restaurant and the US might not win so many medals in the Olympic Games, but I think most Americans could live with that.

racism still exists sadly, it is foolish to deny that.

more important to acknowedge it strive to remove, while affirm universal humanism. no need to vilanize me being born white.

i was and have no guilt for any ancestors that own blacks, i never owned other folks nor wish to.

only a fool hates him/herself for being born white/black/etc.

i note my actions and comdem myself for those acts.
Yes, racism still exists. Unfortunately both extremes are too stupid to understand the simplest concepts. On one extreme you have the jackboot-wearing Hitler-worshippers like dachund who don't have a clue about science or social and technological evolution, and on the other you have the moral guardians like Flash who jump around like startled crickets, ready to pounce on even the most dubious hint of racism (whether justly or unjustly) in order to validate their feelings of self-worth and moral soundness.
agreed, its all about the egos of from those camps. it makes then feel impowered to call out others for slight or non-existant transgressions.

both camps are all about their Ego - from the Reichwing Fascist types and the Snowflake Lefties. Both types of extremists would be better to look inward to understand themselves first before playing the "victim" and slinging shit toward others for thier own personal failings. But that is hard!!!!!!!! so most never will. Some will and i'm glad for that 1-pecent in those camps that do and grow as a result.

more thankful that the "silent majority" - be they left or right - are moderate and mindful and so do not play the game of victimhood.

may God bless the moderate silent majority of mankind - we come from all faiths and nation across the Earth.
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commonsense wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:16 pm No, not diversity. America’s greatest strength is not diversity.

It’s the American Constitution, although its meaning is often debated at length. So maybe not its Constitution.

It’s freedom of speech, although there’s hate speech, pornography and such. Maybe it isn’t freedom of speech.

It’s individual freedom, although PC puts restraints on individual thoughts and actions. Maybe not that.

It’s the opportunity for financial growth. But financial security is threatened these days. So, maybe not.

Then it must be the legal system, although the reality is guilty until proven innocent. Maybe not.

It’s tolerance of each other. No.

It’s capitalism. It’s socialism. It’s nationalism. It’s federalism. It’s local rule. It’s the grass roots. It’s the cities. It’s ecology. It’s industry.


No, wait! It’s the ability to survive change…
good post.

BTW it is about Western Enlightnment Ideals (I like my Constitution - would welcome other Western (and Eastern Nations that have our mindset (Japan - due to occupation in late 40's early 50's - sadly Japan's 20's Democracy died via military coup and riech wing fundies taking over............and thus ww2) adopting thier own Constitution). nonetheless, even without their own constitution, they affirm Common Law via Western concepts of said laws, which conform to my Constitution.

So in short your first sentence was the apt one. My Constitution (which affrms Western Common Law) is all for me personally.
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Greta wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:29 am The US's greatest strengths would probably be its large size and natural resources, being largely in the temperate zone, along with a large population, an organised political and legal system, and the wealth generated by those factors.

Like any other empire, it rises and it falls. It's interesting to watch because in the 80s people figured that the US was so dominant that it would be the world's powerhouse forever. However, division caused by growing inequality and Fox's self interested destabilisation** has fractured that power. The nation will probably remain one of the world's more powerful nations, as is Britain, but it's declining fast, ever more isolated and unable to give or gain cooperation for new projects, obsessed with internal fights.

Diversity is a strength, and always has been, acting to revitalise and reduce stagnation of both gene pools and societies (meme poools). I wouldn't say it's any nation's greatest strength; that's the kind of hyperbolic platitude that a white supremacist like Dachshund might seize upon as an easy straw man target.


** Consider where Murdoch's presence is strongest. The US - wracked by internal divisions and hatreds. UK - in a shambles with the ill-fated Brexit move. Australia - unstable system where prime ministers are replaced every two years or so and policy paralysis. IMO Murdoch is a bad actor who has widened divisions everywhere that he's gained a significant foothold. Divide and rule, thus he usually gets what he wants.
I don;t play ostriche, nor nationalism. I know the American Empire is falling, and will fall.

as Britain did before.

as long as there are other Nations that value legal concepts (rule of law) - as i do, i'm ok with Ameican being a small power.

sadly, I do not have faith in China in taking up that mantle (not racist, just do not see Chinese Joe Ave knowing nor caring about "rule of law" ideals - don't see 1/3 of Americans doing this either!).

My hope resides with Europe (EU is good - Britian let 1/3 of her rednecks fuk her over with Brexit - so fuk her), and esp INDIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yes Modi is a dick, but also a test for us to watch - will the Indian people rise above Nationalism (Hindu Nationalism), reject the Modi mindset, and serve as a people that support Western Humanism and the related Rule of Law (and so as a bullwark against Fascist Chinese Nationalism).

I think (and hope they will). Much respect for India.

India will be the next Global Power - after China - and will play the central role of supporting Western Humanist ideals in the next century.

P.S.

any Indians here on this forum? if so please don't let me down, and i hope you ignore Modi and tell him to shove it!

Modi = Trump in tribalist mindset.
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Nick_A wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:56 am America is unique in that unlike other countries which are built on tradition, America is built on values necessary to sustain a free society.
nonsence.

American inherited England's culture. England inherited it from the Nordic, German and French Normans.

all nations have "tradition" - to claim American did not is foolish.

just as to claim the opposite! - that other nation's cultures negate their Rule of Law constructs.

-- as stated above America culturally and legally is the same as Britian (and Canada, NZ and Australia) - since post ww2 its the same as Germany/France/all the other 20 small european nations, and Japan as well).
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Nick_A wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:56 am
America once had a North Star, the collective belief in God which acted as a guiding principal.

wrong - you are talking about establishment of a State Religion (Church of England).

do you know nothing about the foundation of the establishment of "these united states"?


read the 1st amendment of the bill of rights to my constitution.

no State Reigion in america - thank Gawd.

are you even an Ameican? - you seem to not understand this simple concept. you must be a brit still championing Anglicanism.

Nick_A wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:56 am It was what made the respect for diversity possible. Diverse people could still have the same American values which made freedom possible.

LOL - your "it" is the OPPOSITE of what make America (in the ideal) free!!!!!!!!!!

there cannot be a respect for Diversity in any nation that has a State Religion.

bubba.

Nick_A wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:56 am America has lost its north Star.

thank God, i have no love for Theocratic Nations (Israel, Saudi Arabia/etc).
Nick_A wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:56 am The guiding principle from above is rejected It has been replaced by secular hypocrisy.

I affirm Secularism and oppose Hypocristy (including Religious Hypocrisy- which is rampant)

why do you oppose Secularism (which is the same as Secular Universal Humanism)?
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artisticsolution wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:11 am Hey "whitey" , your reign is over. Get used to it.

This thread is completely ridicules and a waste of time. There is really only one solution whitey...if you dont like it then start fucking amongst yourselves and breed. :roll:
just curious, why the use of "whitey"? you not white? if so does that matter? make it ok to be "that way"

I'm white - you gonna call me a cracker for an accident of birth?

or can you actually contribute to this thread constructively?

just wondering,
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Frank N Stein wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:38 pm Marriange has always been nothing more than a contract, a way for families to rid themselves of 'burdensome' daughters, hence the fact that fathers were required to pay someone to take them off their hands.
yep
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Greta wrote: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:28 am
Besides, most of us well know the suspected proclivities of St Paul in shaping Christianity https://qspirit.net/apostle-paul-homosexuality/ - it appears to be a religion started by a gay man in denial that still holds those qualities that attract gay men in denial to this day - hence all the anti-gay campaigners that seem to have more sex with blokes that out gays. Here's a brief list of prominent Christian "anti gay" campaigners caught playing hide the sausage: https://www.ranker.com/list/top-10-anti ... gay/joanne
I value historical accuracy - and affirm you view of The church priests/links above (did not check your link -for not interested - post here per Saul the man) - Saul i loath, i think he was a phony opportunist that corrupted the message Jesus (through other latter authors wrote about him), and though single (like now might allow for "Suspiction" - I'm single too BTW - never married and in my 50's now - given that homosexuality is around 2 percent..............and being single like me a Saul into thier 50's could explode the "homo-suspiction from 2 to 10? percent or so (i think that is valid percentage - welcome discussion if you think that num is wrong either way) - and so Saul was probably straight (and short and/or ugly?- maybe) by a 10 to 1 margin.

and ya, he might have been gay by a one to ten margin via statistics.

there is too little left to us historically. and so i affirm probabilities, and think that jerk was straight.

as for jesus, he died at half the age of Saul and so more likely straight by a 20 to 1 margin in my book. he may have been mariied to Mary Magdilane - i personally think that he was - clue is in a verse in Mark BTW - concerning instruction to mary (jesus' mother) about the a marriege (not of Jesus with his wife, but of other persons - but i think it is her son's marriege) - where water is converted to wine.
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Nick_A wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:37 am
Lacewing wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:29 am
Nick_A wrote: Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:17 pm That is why Christianity is meaningless for the secularist.
Christianity is meaningless for anyone who recognizes the thousands of reasons that it's absurd.
Nick_A wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:03 am I am referring to the ideal of traditional marriage
Of all the "traditional marriage" throughout history, why do you think your contrived version is the ultimate representation?
If you don't know the purposes of Christianity, how can you be expected to know and appreciate the purpose of the traditional Christian marriage as an ideal? It must appear meaningless.

leaving aside "purpose" of christianity.

i'll answer your inquary as to the theology of Christianity (as an Atheist) - its that YHWH sent is one Son to earth to live upon it for s short span as the perfect man (without sinning), then to die for his Father (YHWH) for the sins (shortcomings via sin-nature of all men) as a sin offering for all men (but really only those men/women that accept Jesus as YHWH's sin-son offering). In order to overcome Death (ie. as death the enternal black - ie, to allow life after death).
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Frank N Stein wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:33 am
Greta wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:23 am
Frank N Stein wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:42 am Indeed. There's nothing like having triads, South African racists, Somalian gangs, Colombian drug cartels, radical muslims, and Russian mafia etc. etc. added to the mix for a bit of 'diversity'. We can just group hug them and they will become good citizens.
Why focus on the minuscule minority who should be picked up during screening processes when they enter the country? The vast majority of migrants the US and elsewhere don't fill these criteria.
Of course they are a minority, but that's enough isn't it??

nope, i believe in the silent majority.
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gaffo wrote: Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:38 am
artisticsolution wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:11 am Hey "whitey" , your reign is over. Get used to it.

This thread is completely ridicules and a waste of time. There is really only one solution whitey...if you dont like it then start fucking amongst yourselves and breed. :roll:
just curious, why the use of "whitey"? you not white? if so does that matter? make it ok to be "that way"

I'm white - you gonna call me a cracker for an accident of birth?

or can you actually contribute to this thread constructively?

just wondering,
The counter-intuitive, post-modern American hates America because hating America makes an American more American through exercising the constitutional right to express hatred for America, plus the convolution is ironic enough to pass as sophisticated.
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