Walker wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:47 am
Walker wrote:No, the US wanted to withdraw from Vietnam. Remember?
gaffo wrote:I rem, that the US refused to leave and was forced to 5 yrs after the general pop mandated it!
you rem different apparently.
The gen pop is the US, we the people.
I remember a large and influential anti-war movement.
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There are many things that the US doesn't want, but the politicians push.
They are the ruling class, and know better than us peons.
Hello Walker, I value historical accuracy and even my dad (a flaming Liberal who voted of McGovern) who work in the defense industry (martin marietta - nukes-ballistic missiles) fully support our efforts in Nam - until Teit. I think he was one of most americans (i.e. we supported the war until Tiet). Yes i know we won militarilly, but the optics just looked bad anyway, i think we were becoming war weary and had assumed we are about to win it, then this all out offensive (though it failed). showed us we would have many more years on the ground need to win, and folks from 68 and after turned against it.
our gov, knew it was lost then, but to save face, continued the charade of "peace with honor"/veitnamization etc (I think the latter Veitnamization was what we should have done from the start - 65, why didn't we? and its a concept that i support (train them to fight their own war) - why they failed? i really don't understand. it was not like SV was unable to fight, they belly rolled on hue, then after it was too late to turn the tide they defended Siegon admerably. their leadership was just so corrupt it infected the peoples faith in themselves i think (what is now happening to us sadly).
"the system" is so corrupt and out of touch with the pleabs.
i feel for the SV, at least the NV were not butchers (unlike the Khamer latter) - and allowed SV to live a good life after "re-education" for a couple of years for the higher ups in camps.
Walker wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:47 am
For instance, whatever the hell "climate change" is supposed to represent, it consistently scores low in polls of public interest, although with all the Green hysteria going on in the news these days, especially since the weather is about the only platform the Dems can push after the success of the Trump administration (despite unprecedented opposition), younger folks may think it's important (the weather).
Basically, just say the word "green" in a polling question and you'll get an affirmative, which will be translated by activists into "climate change" being in the forefront of public consciousness.
This cring clip is either
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IITaN7SJGpw
I affirm global Warming, but know that we have had much warmer temps 30.000.000 yrs ago and life continued then, as it will now. with or without man. so really not my "Thing". I welcome lower CO2, and drive a small Yaris (40 MPG) for over a decade (love small cars - wish they offered even smaller ones like the Kei Cars in Japan - something like the old 70's cars we used to have on offer - Le Car, original Fiat500, Minicooper, Bugeye sprite, etc.....but today all the cars are bigger and heaver than those (not offered here - not since the 70's).
my previous cars were a TR7 and Ford Fiesta - smallish very funn to drive, excellent handeling in curving roads - esp the TR (peice of shit mechanically though!). ford was good mechanically though (made by Worke in West Germany).
I'm weird though, love small cars and big butted gals (should be the opposite here in Murica - love Huge Trucks, and skinny buttless blonds with big boobs (not pears)). hell and i ain't even black! but i like big booty
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---i've strayed off topic, it happens.