Why Liberals are better people than Conservatives

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henry quirk
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Where did I 'deny' anything?

Post by henry quirk » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:54 pm

The climate changes...obviously.

It's dynamic.

I just don't accept the poorly presented, poorly defended, poorly evidenced idea that human industry is a prime driver of climate change.

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Re: Why Liberals are better people than Conservatives

Post by Greta » Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:10 pm

Poorly evidenced?

No point presenting any evidence to those who will not see. No measures of anthropogenic carbon or evidence that carbon traps heat will suffice. No charts showing the rapid correlated increase in atmopsheric carbon, neatly tracking human progress will do. That almost all climate scientists have checked the evidence and independently come to similar conclusions will not do.

But lying billionaires with huge fossil fuel investments like Murdoch and Koch and their instrumentalities - whatever they say will do, seemingly.

Dunning Kruger ...

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Access the link, Greta....read and read and read.

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Re: Why Liberals are better people than Conservatives

Post by vegetariantaxidermy » Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:44 pm

All you are doing is digging up ANYTHING that includes someone saying somehing that you think supports your politics. That's pathetic Henry. They aren't even proper websites.

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"They aren't even proper websites."

Post by henry quirk » Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:18 am

I see: you're a style-over-substance kinda gal.

Fair enough.

I'm guessin' you haven't actually read anything from either site, yeah?

'Decor' was just too dreary for you, yeah?

Anywho: for the rest of you, again...

https://wattsupwiththat.com/

https://danluu.com/dunning-kruger/

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Re: Why Liberals are better people than Conservatives

Post by Greta » Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:40 am

Henry, for every page of anthropogenic climate change denial you provide, anyone here can provide fifty making clear that humans are changing the climate rapidly. A few dud predictions does not account for the many correct ones.

Your turn to read:

https://maas.museum/how-do-scientists-m ... te-change/

https://www.carbonbrief.org/why-the-sun ... ate-change

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Post by henry quirk » Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:11 am

No way you read through months of articles, months of disputings, months of refutings.

And you're right: proofs offered for human-driven climate change can be countered with proofs establishing the opposite.

Meaning: the fat lady ain't sung yet, the curtain hasn't dropped, the show ain't over yet.

So: mebbe folks like yourself can stop declaring 'done & done' and insisting economies get scrapped, yeah?

And: your links?

Read 'em (and a whole whack just like 'em).

Pretty sure they're countered by pieces you can find at the wattsup site.

Go look for 'em.

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Post by vegetariantaxidermy » Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:21 am

henry quirk wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:11 am
No way you read through months of articles, months of disputings, months of refutings.

And you're right: proofs offered for human-driven climate change can be countered with proofs establishing the opposite.

Meaning: the fat lady ain't sung yet, the curtain hasn't dropped, the show ain't over yet.

So: mebbe folks like yourself can stop declaring 'done & done' and insisting economies get scrapped, yeah?

And: your links?

Read 'em (and a whole whack just like 'em).

Pretty sure they're countered by pieces you can find at the wattsup site.

Go look for 'em.
All about money. What a surprise. Climate change doesn't give a shit about your politics, your money, or your economy. It's happening regardless.

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Post by henry quirk » Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:32 am

No, not 'money': livelihoods.

Folks like you would cripple economies (people) cuz of a 'maybe'.

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"It's happening regardless"

That, veg, has yet to be firmly established (which you know).

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Re: The Climate god

Post by Walker » Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:19 am

A tribe sacrifices what it values most to the uncontrollable gods.

A small tribe throws its most beautiful into the volcano.

A large tribe worshiping the Climate God sacrifices The Enlightenment, The Industrial Revolution, and progress.

The Climate-Change fad is a religion.

Plain and simple, it scratches that deep-down worship-gene, and the faithful must either convert unbelievers, or give them an Alinsky noogie.

And like any worship, it's done one person at a time, in private except for the obnoxious virtue signaling.

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Post by vegetariantaxidermy » Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:45 am

henry quirk wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:32 am
No, not 'money': livelihoods.

Folks like you would cripple economies (people) cuz of a 'maybe'.

#

"It's happening regardless"

That, veg, has yet to be firmly established (which you know).
You talk so much shit. Fuck your 'economy' then. Seems it's nothing much to write home about anyway. A booming economy isn't much use to dead people.

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Re: Why Liberals are better people than Conservatives

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"Fuck your 'economy' then."

Post by henry quirk » Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:51 pm

Up yours, sister.

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"The Climate-Change fad is a religion."

Post by henry quirk » Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:53 pm

For the grass roots adherents, yes it is.

For the folks runnin' the show it's a 'means'.

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