uwot wrote: ↑Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:35 pm
henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:17 pmmeh, keynes laid the groundwork for state-capitalists/sociliats to pull all manner of shit
People were shat on long before Keynes.
Humans, like almost all other species of animals living in social groups, do form hierarchical societies.
This was the promise of Marxism-Leninism: to eradicate hierarchies. And this is where they failed. You can't organize any positive human activity involving more than one person unless you build a hierarchical structure.
The Who, an energetic, working class, musical band, summed it up like this in their 1972 hit (and I cry every time I hear it), in "Won't Get Fool Again":
Meet the new boss!
Same as the old boss!
Why don't we organize a society with no human involvement in production and delivery of goods and services, to be done by drones and robots; and you eliminate hierarchy.
But you still won't eliminate anarchy. We are too wide-spread in our psychological make-up to form a uniform society. People will kill, maim, and murder for the sake of nothing else but to kill, maim and murder, or do the same to protest, or do the same to break the monotony.
Sorry, there is no Utopia for humans. We are a bunch of mainly mildly well-meaning church going socialists, but we can't eliminate from our midst (in our gene pool) the sadists, the disruptive people, the bored ones.
