Can there be such a thing as a "Liberal Dictatorship"?

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Post by Skip » Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:31 pm

henry quirk wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:47 pm
"he'll do is remove, quietly, one by one, every means the average citizen has of opposing the government."

Neither Saunders nor Bill's husband are currently in line for the Big Chair, so...
.... the dictator won't be a liberal. He'll be an arch-religious-conservative who will attempt to recreate the middle ages.

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".... the dictator won't be a liberal."

Post by henry quirk » Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:01 am

No, he or she will be a socialist democrat/democratic socialist (i.e. a commie).

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Re: Can there be such a thing as a "Liberal Dictatorship"?

Post by Skip » Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:13 am

From your keyboard to the electorate's higher cortical functions!

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Re: Can there be such a thing as a "Liberal Dictatorship"?

Post by Walker » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:43 pm

A liberal dictatorship does not mean an individual who is a liberal.

It is Dictatorship by Ideology.

Here is how it’s done in a democracy, how it’s being done right now in the US.

The Practice of Ritual Defamation
How values, opinions and beliefs are
controlled in democratic societies.
http://www.lairdwilcox.com/news/defame.html

The thing is, knowing how it is done doesn’t stop it from being done.

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Post by henry quirk » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:50 pm

"Here is how it’s done in a democracy, how it’s being done right now in the US."

Indeed, cuz what's 'democracy' but 'mob rule' in fine clothes?

And he who rules the mob...

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Re: Can there be such a thing as a "Liberal Dictatorship"?

Post by Walker » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:53 pm

In this case it's what rules the mob, not who.

The Ideology rules the mob.

Currently, the Ideology is driving the opposition to Kavanaugh's nomination.

The mob is the multi-headed hydra expressing the bloated body of the Ideology.

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Post by henry quirk » Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:04 pm

Sure: memetic infection, I get it.

But: fightin' ideas is hard, infected brains have strong defenses (and while you're reasonin' with them, they're tryin' to eat your face).

Yeah, cuz we're 'civillized', we have to 'persuade', but there's a limit, an end-point, to any negotiation.

You can never take helicopter rides off the table.

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Re: Can there be such a thing as a "Liberal Dictatorship"?

Post by Walker » Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:22 pm

True enough, and the helicopter showed me something. The pleasure isn’t where you are, the pleasure is that you are where you’re at, wherever that is.

Good practice for the final wherever.

This must be how folks in dictatorships are happy.

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Post by henry quirk » Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:41 pm

Yep.

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Re: Can there be such a thing as a "Liberal Dictatorship"?

Post by Impenitent » Sun Sep 30, 2018 12:13 am

Skip wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 3:16 pm
Walker wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:52 am
[S - I had no idea that all laws, rules and regulations were dictatorial.]
If you chew gum you don't break all laws. Duh.
If you use and sell cocaine, you don't break all laws.
If you drive on the wrong side of the road, you don't break all laws.
If you marry a second and third wife, you don't break all laws.
If you show up on parade out of uniform, you don't break all laws.
If you boil a kid in its mother's milk, you don't break all laws.
Yet, each of those is an infraction of a rule that some organization has made and its members have agreed to abide by.
And yet making a law or rule against any single one of those acts, according to you, is dictatorship.
Unless you consider gum-chewing the one and only holy of holies against which making a rule is dictatorial.
but if some liberal college professor says you sexually assaulted her 35 years ago, and every possible witness to the non specific event deny it occurred, you are guilty in the eyes of every democrat senator.

presumption of innocence?

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"presumption of innocence?"

Post by henry quirk » Sun Sep 30, 2018 1:47 am

I'm kinda surprised a thread hasn't started on that mess.

Allow me...

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Post by gaffo » Sun Sep 30, 2018 2:21 am

henry quirk wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:50 pm
"Here is how it’s done in a democracy, how it’s being done right now in the US."

Indeed, cuz what's 'democracy' but 'mob rule' in fine clothes?

And he who rules the mob...
mob rule is for the dogs, and why i support the Bill of Rights.

protection of the minority from the majority.

I'm a liberal BTW.

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Post by henry quirk » Sun Sep 30, 2018 2:23 am

"i support the Bill of Rights"

So do I.

But if the 'mob' doesn't, what then?

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Re: Can there be such a thing as a "Liberal Dictatorship"?

Post by gaffo » Sun Sep 30, 2018 2:24 am

Walker wrote:
Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:53 pm
In this case it's what rules the mob, not who.

The Ideology rules the mob.

Currently, the Ideology is driving the opposition to Kavanaugh's nomination.

The mob is the multi-headed hydra expressing the bloated body of the Ideology.
I'm just glad that there will now be an FBI investigation of Kananaugh - as there should have been from day one.

then we can elect or reject him after the proper investigation was carried out.

i value the rule of law/facts over political circuses.

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Post by gaffo » Sun Sep 30, 2018 2:26 am

henry quirk wrote:
Sun Sep 30, 2018 2:23 am
"i support the Bill of Rights"

So do I.

But if the 'mob' doesn't, what then?
then.............we still have the BoR, and a "War" with those that do not value our Constitution and the Rule of Law.

i only hope most of us will be on our side in this war.

thanks for reply.

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