What should a community/nation/state (government) provide for citizens?

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Re: What should a community/nation/state (government) provide for citizens?

Post by Walker » Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:03 pm

Should it try to provide an unchanging climate?

The latest UN report declares that the world is doomed.
Surprised?

Because of climate change.

Give all your pennies to the UN, the big wishing well, and maybe the climate won’t change, and the world will keep turning.

Spare no expense! (unless you hate the world)

https://nypost.com/2018/10/08/terrifyin ... re-doomed/

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seems the proper place to put this

Post by henry quirk » Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:16 am

Saturday before last I took the 12 year old to the courthouse for early voting.

As always: I voted for people and propositions I think, over the long haul, will reduce the size, scope, power, and intrusiveness of government and/or against people and propositions I think, over the long haul, would expand the size, scope, power, and intrusiveness of government.

That is: I voted for 'less' rather than 'more' (of everything).

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Post by henry quirk » Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:32 pm

Haven't dug into any of it yet, but it seems Congress is now deadlocked (again), and the Republicans did slightly better than the Democrats on the state level. Couple that with House Dems self-hobbling as they (continue to) try to 'get Trump' and we've got a largely impotent federal gov and mostly business as usual state by state.

Works for me.

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Post by Walker » Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:44 pm

henry quirk wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:32 pm
Haven't dug into any of it yet, but it seems Congress is now deadlocked (again), and the Republicans did slightly better than the Democrats on the state level. Couple that with House Dems self-hobbling as they (continue to) try to 'get Trump' and we've got a largely impotent federal gov and mostly business as usual state by state.

Works for me.
Everyone knows the old saying, be careful what you wish for.

The Democrats got what they wished for.

President Trump’s view is The Philosophy of No Mistakes.

This is an objective view likely to disrupt models of Democrat-projected outcomes, given their track record.

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"The Democrats got what they wished for."

Post by henry quirk » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:10 pm

Yep.

Let's see if they can 'use' what they were given responsibly, for 'The People', or if they just go with the program and piss all their lent power away on tiltin' at the Trump windmill.

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Re: What should a community/nation/state (government) provide for citizens?

Post by Impenitent » Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:00 am

tit for tat will be fun...

I think the new attorney general will prosecute hillary

and for every new house investigation, a new senate investigation of house members, as well as IRS audits (thanks for the example obama)...

"you say you want a revolution" ... 1861

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"tit for tat will be fun..."

Post by henry quirk » Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:04 am

Yep.

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"I think the new attorney general will prosecute hillary"

Here's hopin' Trump doesn't pick another Sessions.

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"and for every new house investigation, a new senate investigation of house members, as well as IRS audits (thanks for the example obama)..."

Absolutely. All kinds of dirt under the rug...break out the vacuum.


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Re: What should a community/nation/state (government) provide for citizens?

Post by gaffo » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:20 am

Walker wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:03 pm
Should it try to provide an unchanging climate?

The latest UN report declares that the world is doomed.
Surprised?

Because of climate change.

Give all your pennies to the UN, the big wishing well, and maybe the climate won’t change, and the world will keep turning.

Spare no expense! (unless you hate the world)

https://nypost.com/2018/10/08/terrifyin ... re-doomed/
Global warming is real.

no, not the end of the world, 20 million ys ago we had much more global warming.

only canada will be more warm and what america is now.

so not end of world, just food production will move north, and islands will dissapear.

its folly do deny global warming Walker.

do you deny it?

if so, lets discuss!

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Post by gaffo » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:23 am

henry quirk wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:32 pm
Haven't dug into any of it yet, but it seems Congress is now deadlocked (again), and the Republicans did slightly better than the Democrats on the state level. Couple that with House Dems self-hobbling as they (continue to) try to 'get Trump' and we've got a largely impotent federal gov and mostly business as usual state by state.

Works for me.

state level gov tended to go for Dems.

just updating it for you.

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Post by gaffo » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:26 am

Walker wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:44 pm
henry quirk wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:32 pm
Haven't dug into any of it yet, but it seems Congress is now deadlocked (again), and the Republicans did slightly better than the Democrats on the state level. Couple that with House Dems self-hobbling as they (continue to) try to 'get Trump' and we've got a largely impotent federal gov and mostly business as usual state by state.

Works for me.
Everyone knows the old saying, be careful what you wish for.

The Democrats got what they wished for.
yes "we" did (reg Independant since voting age 30 yrs ago). usually vote dem (not always - but usually).

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Re: "The Democrats got what they wished for."

Post by gaffo » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:28 am

henry quirk wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:10 pm
Yep.

Let's see if they can 'use' what they were given responsibly, for 'The People', or if they just go with the program and piss all their lent power away on tiltin' at the Trump windmill.
indeed.

I hope they fixate upon the shrinking middle class, and propose solutions for it, over impeachment proceedings.

as least until Mueller concludes is findings.

than - given his findings, they/I can then determine if impeachment is the right course for the defense of our Republic.

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Re: What should a community/nation/state (government) provide for citizens?

Post by gaffo » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:31 am

Impenitent wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:00 am
tit for tat will be fun...

Gingrich started that 25 yrs ago - what a asshole he was/is!!!!!!!!!!

so fine with Dems play ass in kind.

Gingrich started it all!!!!!!!!!

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Re: What should a community/nation/state (government) provide for citizens?

Post by Impenitent » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:56 am

gaffo wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:31 am
Impenitent wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:00 am
tit for tat will be fun...

Gingrich started that 25 yrs ago - what a asshole he was/is!!!!!!!!!!

so fine with Dems play ass in kind.

Gingrich started it all!!!!!!!!!
Newt? He was speaker of the house the last time the federal budget was balanced...

1861

-Imp

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"I hope they fixate upon the shrinking middle class, and propose solutions for it, over impeachment proceedings."

Post by henry quirk » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:14 am

Me: I just want all them fuckers to leave me be.

Gimme a piece of paper that sez 'In exchange for bein' left alone, Henry Quirk relinquishes all claim to the security and comfort provided by the Government of these United States of America' and I'll sign fast and easy.

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