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Trump strikes me as a loose cannon rather than as a puppet. That's the problem, surely?

I'm still not seein' the problem.

Ingraham shit on Hogg's tiny woes...boo hoo, Hogg.

Hogg called for a boycott of Ingraham's broadcasts...boo hoo, Laura.

Some folks did for reasons real or imagined...boo hoo Laura.

Some folks didn't for reasons real or imagined...boo hoo, Hogg.

Some folks who did changed their minds for reasons real or imagined...boo hoo, Hogg.

Much ado about nuthin'.

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How the hell did Trump, if he was lookin' to just divert attention from his woes, get Britain and France to sign on?

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Me: I think we ought to leave Syria be (with the understanding that its internal shenanigans remain internal). But, if we're gonna intervene we should do it right: end Assad and be done with it.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:51 pmHow the hell did Trump, if he was lookin' to just divert attention from his woes, get Britain and France to sign on?

They already wanted to beforehand.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:18 amIt's not necessarily Trump. He's just a puppet anyway.

Who is he a puppet of?

Arms manufacturers certainly have a vested interest in the convoluted mess continuing indefinitely.

You think that companies which are largely government funded are influencing what the government does in way that gives them more government funding?

Sir-Sister-of-Suck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:21 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:18 amIt's not necessarily Trump. He's just a puppet anyway.

Who is he a puppet of?

Arms manufacturers certainly have a vested interest in the convoluted mess continuing indefinitely.

You think that companies which are largely government funded are influencing what the government does in way that gives them more government funding?

I'll leave that for you to work out. It's hardly the point anyway. The point is about people believing whatever it suits them to believe without questioning or even thinking at all.
As for Trump, he's not even particularly political. I wouldn't have thought he would be quite so easy to manipulate. I have a feeling Pense is really running the circus. I bet he's being run ragged by the unruly tot messing up the place with discarded happymeal boxes and broken TV remotes. Trump said some good things about the evil that the US has perpetrated on the ME, but that was long before he ran for President. If he doesn't find his balls soon he won't have a planet to jetset around when he's finished playing President on' The White House' reality TV show.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:54 pmI'll leave that for you to work out. It's hardly the point anyway

I've set that up to make the point that there's a fundamental economic issue if that is something you think. If I give you $20, you can't go around and try to bribe me with the money I've just given you. I mean, besides the fact that I'm pretty sure the NRA and the NSSF are the only major weapons manufacturers that actually lobby.

Sir-Sister-of-Suck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:38 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:54 pmI'll leave that for you to work out. It's hardly the point anyway

I've set that up to make the point that there's a fundamental economic issue if that is something you think. If I give you $20, you can't go around and try to bribe me with the money I've just given you. I mean, besides the fact that I'm pretty sure the NRA and the NSSF are the only major weapons manufacturers that actually lobby.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:56 pm

Sir-Sister-of-Suck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:38 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:54 pmI'll leave that for you to work out. It's hardly the point anyway

I've set that up to make the point that there's a fundamental economic issue if that is something you think. If I give you $20, you can't go around and try to bribe me with the money I've just given you. I mean, besides the fact that I'm pretty sure the NRA and the NSSF are the only major weapons manufacturers that actually lobby.

You implied that arms manufacturers might have had an influence on the syria decision. That's what I was replying to.

Sir-Sister-of-Suck wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:53 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:56 pm

Sir-Sister-of-Suck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:38 pm I've set that up to make the point that there's a fundamental economic issue if that is something you think. If I give you $20, you can't go around and try to bribe me with the money I've just given you. I mean, besides the fact that I'm pretty sure the NRA and the NSSF are the only major weapons manufacturers that actually lobby.

You implied that arms manufacturers might have had an influence on the syria decision. That's what I was replying to.

Is the NRA an arms manufacturer/dealer? I don't know what the NSSF is.

...the National Rifle Association is in the business of promoting responsible gun ownership and use, and, standing for the 2nd A.

And, no, I'm not a member (not a team player, me).

henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:45 pm ...the National Rifle Association is in the business of promoting responsible gun ownership and use, and, standing for the 2nd A.

SSOS seems to think they manufacturer weapons. I don't see what African Social Security has to do with it though.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:09 amIs the NRA an arms manufacturer/dealer? I don't know what the NSSF is.

Well I mean the lobby for gun manufacturers. They're not an actual company that's manufacturing any weapons, and it was a mistake on my end to have worded it that way.

I did just now realize that a lobby group doesn't need to be about strictly weapons in order to receive funding from a weapons manufacturer, so I could see a potential there for a vested interest.

I'm not aware of the NRA formally lobbying for gun manufacturers though I can see why it might seem that way.

Again: the NRA promotes responsible gun ownership and use. Only natural then the organization should rub shoulders with manufacturers.

But, let's say the NRA gets significant funding from gun makers and sellers and, cuz of that funding, pushes for legislative favors for the manufacturers: so what?

It's not like the organization would be hypocritical or underhanded.

Its the National Rifle Association, for cripe's sake.

But it’s a gun, it’s a gun!

If a kid so much as draws a picture of a gun, or points a finger gun in play, or a cutout paper gun, or a piece of pizza sorta shaped like a gun, then the government lands on the kid with a zero tolerance policy, and it goes against the kid.

That isn’t gun control.
That’s indoctrination, and everyone knows it.

People talk like the NRA is this ocean of money corrupting politicians.
Typical. Leftists always accuse of what they’re doing.
They're doing it with the accusations leveled against the president, every single day.

Take a look at Planned Parenthood.
They lavish far more money on the politicians, and they are taxpayer funded.
$30 million on the midterms.
The politicians are salivating, and,
you’re gonna support them financially whether or not you want to.

However, the irrational anti-gun crowd doesn’t have to financially support the NRA.

Indoctrination

A day late, a dollar short, and no probable cause.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/29790/br ... daily-wire

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