How Come no Boycotts Against New Zealand?

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Re: How Come no Boycotts Against New Zealand?

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Science Fan wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:08 pm How many Arabs are living inside Israel, today, with full citizenship rights?
second class citizens - 20 percent BTW.

still playing Troll and ignore the MILLION living in the WESTBANK - which IS ISRAEL - and is in violation of the 4th Geneva accords - which the Apartheid State is a signatory of....................."illegal to occupy lands of other peoples without making them citizens of the occupying power".

but you like to play the Deaf, Blind and Dumb game of "westbank"? whats that.

probably play that other Ostrich game of "there is not such things as Palestinians, for there was never a nation called "Palestine".............maybe you need to tell that to the one million living there in a land illegally occupied by your beloved Israel.

and while you are at it since the Palestine never existed, not only do the Palestinians do not exist, nor do the Settler Jews liviing in that "westbank" never heard of it.

funny how those 2/3 million somehow have Israeli cizenship in a Militarily rules zone while the non-jewish guy litterally living a mile down the road is not a citizen.

funny that.


nipped the rest of your apologist bullshit.
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Re: How Come no Boycotts Against New Zealand?

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FlashDangerpants wrote: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:08 am

There is absolutely no offer on the table right now for Palestinians to reject. It certainly wouldn't include East Jerusalem as capital, which was never on the table at all, that subject was kicked into the long grass right from the start because Israel cannot tolerate it.
there was never a reasonable offer from the Israelis and never will be.

the 2 state solution died 20 yrs ago when too many Settlers took too much of the WB to make it a viable independant state. today is FAR FAR too late for the 2 state.

what will happen is what has been happening since 1995 - Israel will continue to steal more land in the WB, continue to settle more racist jew fanatics into the WB, continue to denegrate the Arabs living in the WB...........until f........i...na......ll...........y it becomes to morally outragous that even AIPAC will lose control of public opinion (AIPAC is losing the Democrats here in America - have been since Jenin in 2002 - they now have more support from the Racist Rublican Evangelicals).

by 2040 Israel will be an international pariah................there "bunker mentality".............and "ignoring international opinion" only gives them 20 yr of stalling the inevitable.

which of course will be a Jewish minority Democracy 1 state solution with Arabs in WB FINALLY given Israeli citizenship (it should have happened around 2005 - not 35 yr later and many lives lost over the inevitability..............but folly is as folly does.

and only a fool plays ostrich denying demographic and political reality.

yes Israel plays the fool - and has been now for 25 years.
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Re: How Come no Boycotts Against New Zealand?

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http://torathamelech.blogspot.com


lovely reading...........

very Hitlerish

was Hitler a Jew?
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Re: How Come no Boycotts Against New Zealand?

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gaffo wrote: Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:43 am
Science Fan wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:08 pm How many Arabs are living inside Israel, today, with full citizenship rights?
second class citizens - 20 percent BTW.

still playing Troll and ignore the MILLION living in the WESTBANK - which IS ISRAEL - and is in violation of the 4th Geneva accords - which the Apartheid State is a signatory of....................."illegal to occupy lands of other peoples without making them citizens of the occupying power".

but you like to play the Deaf, Blind and Dumb game of "westbank"? whats that.

probably play that other Ostrich game of "there is not such things as Palestinians, for there was never a nation called "Palestine".............maybe you need to tell that to the one million living there in a land illegally occupied by your beloved Israel.

and while you are at it since the Palestine never existed, not only do the Palestinians do not exist, nor do the Settler Jews liviing in that "westbank" never heard of it.

funny how those 2/3 million somehow have Israeli cizenship in a Militarily rules zone while the non-jewish guy litterally living a mile down the road is not a citizen.

funny that.


nipped the rest of your apologist bullshit.
They just called them arabs back then. Not sure if that's relevant :|
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Re: How Come no Boycotts Against New Zealand?

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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:36 am
gaffo wrote: Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:43 am
Science Fan wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:08 pm How many Arabs are living inside Israel, today, with full citizenship rights?
second class citizens - 20 percent BTW.

still playing Troll and ignore the MILLION living in the WESTBANK - which IS ISRAEL - and is in violation of the 4th Geneva accords - which the Apartheid State is a signatory of....................."illegal to occupy lands of other peoples without making them citizens of the occupying power".

but you like to play the Deaf, Blind and Dumb game of "westbank"? whats that.

probably play that other Ostrich game of "there is not such things as Palestinians, for there was never a nation called "Palestine".............maybe you need to tell that to the one million living there in a land illegally occupied by your beloved Israel.

and while you are at it since the Palestine never existed, not only do the Palestinians do not exist, nor do the Settler Jews liviing in that "westbank" never heard of it.

funny how those 2/3 million somehow have Israeli cizenship in a Militarily rules zone while the non-jewish guy litterally living a mile down the road is not a citizen.

funny that.


nipped the rest of your apologist bullshit.
They just called them arabs back then. Not sure if that's relevant :|
ya i know the mindgames these Zoinists (Rightwing Israelis/NYC-brooklin transplants) and Ziochristians (American Evangelical Israeli Apologists) play.

1st that say "we aren't racists, it just that the Palestinians don't want peace.
2nd the age old "Palestinians deny the right of Israel to exist, and we will be swept into the sea............" (most Palestinians i think would be happy to not have their olive trees bulldozed and just eak out a living without being harrassed at military checkpoint many times/hours a day just to get groceries down the street.
3rd argument is "dammit their is not such thing as "palestinians" for there was never a "palestine" (these are the "its called Judea and Summaria" folks)
4th is "there is not such thing as "palestinians" they are Jordanians! (this position does affirm their existance - unlike #3 above, but lacks understanding that when you invade a part of another nation the people you take over no longer are citizens if the defeated nation (Colin Powel called it the "pottery barn mandate" (you break it you own it).Jordan is under no obligation to take in thier former citizens. Israel of course is, but has not done so.
5th is Sci Fi's - just plays Deaf Dumb and Blind - never mentions the WB at all not by any of the above names. when he refers to Israel is ALWAYS wrt to Israel minus the WB.............its the child's game of "LALALALALAL i can;t hear you".

all of the above mentalities are dishonest and very immature.

i wish there were less of them, but sadly AIPAC still has much power of propaganda in my nation.

second most powerful lobby - just above the NRA and below #1 AARP.
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Re: How Come no Boycotts Against New Zealand?

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oh yes i forget the gem!

"a land without a people for a people without a land"

..................so i guess that means the Taxi driver in Midnight Cowboy than nearly ran over Dustin Hoffman (HEY I"M STANDING HERE!) is the Jew and the latter being run over (because he just ain't there) is the Arab living in that land were no people lived prior to 1948

its just all so absurd
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Re: How Come no Boycotts Against New Zealand?

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gaffo wrote: Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:54 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:36 am
gaffo wrote: Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:43 am

second class citizens - 20 percent BTW.

still playing Troll and ignore the MILLION living in the WESTBANK - which IS ISRAEL - and is in violation of the 4th Geneva accords - which the Apartheid State is a signatory of....................."illegal to occupy lands of other peoples without making them citizens of the occupying power".

but you like to play the Deaf, Blind and Dumb game of "westbank"? whats that.

probably play that other Ostrich game of "there is not such things as Palestinians, for there was never a nation called "Palestine".............maybe you need to tell that to the one million living there in a land illegally occupied by your beloved Israel.

and while you are at it since the Palestine never existed, not only do the Palestinians do not exist, nor do the Settler Jews liviing in that "westbank" never heard of it.

funny how those 2/3 million somehow have Israeli cizenship in a Militarily rules zone while the non-jewish guy litterally living a mile down the road is not a citizen.

funny that.


nipped the rest of your apologist bullshit.
They just called them arabs back then. Not sure if that's relevant :|
ya i know the mindgames these Zoinists (Rightwing Israelis/NYC-brooklin transplants) and Ziochristians (American Evangelical Israeli Apologists) play.

1st that say "we aren't racists, it just that the Palestinians don't want peace.
2nd the age old "Palestinians deny the right of Israel to exist, and we will be swept into the sea............" (most Palestinians i think would be happy to not have their olive trees bulldozed and just eak out a living without being harrassed at military checkpoint many times/hours a day just to get groceries down the street.
3rd argument is "dammit their is not such thing as "palestinians" for there was never a "palestine" (these are the "its called Judea and Summaria" folks)
4th is "there is not such thing as "palestinians" they are Jordanians! (this position does affirm their existance - unlike #3 above, but lacks understanding that when you invade a part of another nation the people you take over no longer are citizens if the defeated nation (Colin Powel called it the "pottery barn mandate" (you break it you own it).Jordan is under no obligation to take in thier former citizens. Israel of course is, but has not done so.
5th is Sci Fi's - just plays Deaf Dumb and Blind - never mentions the WB at all not by any of the above names. when he refers to Israel is ALWAYS wrt to Israel minus the WB.............its the child's game of "LALALALALAL i can;t hear you".

all of the above mentalities are dishonest and very immature.

i wish there were less of them, but sadly AIPAC still has much power of propaganda in my nation.

second most powerful lobby - just above the NRA and below #1 AARP.
Just do me a favour and read what I actually write, not what he writes himself then attributes to me.
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What's it to you? Why do you care more about Palestinians than Iraqis and Syrians etc. etc. etc. etc...............Why don't you do something about the brutality of your own people?
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gaffo wrote: Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:13 am http://torathamelech.blogspot.com


lovely reading...........

very Hitlerish

was Hitler a Jew?
WTF? I'm not getting the point.
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At least Veggie gets it, although initially misunderstanding this post. I specifically stated that I considered New Zealanders no different from any one else. My point was that any nation, just pick one, can be dehumanized in the same way that people target Israel. It's hypocrisy is all it is.
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gaffo wrote: Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:43 am
Science Fan wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:08 pm How many Arabs are living inside Israel, today, with full citizenship rights?
second class citizens - 20 percent BTW.

still playing Troll and ignore the MILLION living in the WESTBANK - which IS ISRAEL - and is in violation of the 4th Geneva accords - which the Apartheid State is a signatory of....................."illegal to occupy lands of other peoples without making them citizens of the occupying power".

but you like to play the Deaf, Blind and Dumb game of "westbank"? whats that.

probably play that other Ostrich game of "there is not such things as Palestinians, for there was never a nation called "Palestine".............maybe you need to tell that to the one million living there in a land illegally occupied by your beloved Israel.

and while you are at it since the Palestine never existed, not only do the Palestinians do not exist, nor do the Settler Jews liviing in that "westbank" never heard of it.

funny how those 2/3 million somehow have Israeli cizenship in a Militarily rules zone while the non-jewish guy litterally living a mile down the road is not a citizen.

funny that.


nipped the rest of your apologist bullshit.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/ ... ddle-east/

A pretty good article. Someone could be forgiven for thinking what Americans refer to as a 'lefty libtard' wrote it. You should really clean up your own house first, or let me guess, you think the US invaded Iraq under instructions from some zionist Jews who somehow manage to have control over every US Govt.? How would that even work? The only group with that kind of clout is the arms industry, companies like Lockheed Martin that have a vested interest in the invasion business. The US has bottomless pockets when it comes to the military. It doesn't even bother to audit spending. This scam was only discovered because the fraudsters made a silly mistake https://www.economist.com/node/9687474

''According to the magazine Politico, Lockheed Martin has "a political network that is already the envy of its competitors", and its contracts enjoy wide bipartisan support in the U.S. Congress thanks to it having "perfected the strategy of spreading jobs on weapons programs in key states and congressional districts". The company's 2010 lobbying expenditure by the third quarter was $9.9 million (2009 total: $13.7 million).''
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The USA did not wreck the Middle East. How about Britain and France? They are the two nations mainly responsible for dividing up the Middle East into arbitrary nations, which could only be held together by oppressive regimes brutalizing people. Eventually, that idiotic plan was going to blow up, and that's what we are seeing. How about the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan? Or Russia's present brutality in Syria? Or, how about the impact of Islam?

One has to ignore a hell of a lot of facts to jump to the conclusion that it's all the fault of the USA. There is plenty of blame to go around. Including from anti-Semites who always give a free-pass to the most brutal regimes in the Middle East, as long as those regimes hate Jews and Israel. Isn't the British Labour Party a firm ally of Hamas? When is the last time Hamas allowed a free election? Allowed religious freedom? Allowed freedom of speech? One would think the British Labour Party would be concerned about such issues as freedom of religion, freedom from religion, and free-speech, but apparently, when it comes to those who publicly state in a charter that they want all Jews murdered off, they can get the full support of the British Labour Party while violating every leftist policy. Just like Gaffo here, who supports such brutality, as long as it assists him prancing around social media spreading hatred against Jews.
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Yes it did. Just because it has its little bitches to help it do its dirty work doesn't make it any less culpable. How can anyone be so blinded with Nationalistic fervour that they can't see the bleeding obvious?
Oh yes, I remember the Russian invasion of Afghanistan. That was when the US demanded a boycott of the Moscow Olympics. Apparently it's only ok when the US invades Afghanistan and all the other countries its invaded.
Russia is a shit-stirrer too, but hardly in the same league as the US, and it doesn't claim to be on a righteous crusade for 'freedom, moral purity, and a McDonalds in every mosque'.
As for believing lies, Gaffo is hardly alone in that. Humans have a habit of believing lies.
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VT: You really need to cut the crap. Your own country of New Zealand has participated in the Middle East along with the USA, so you may as well stop the hypocrisy. You should also grow up and realize that the world is not made-up of little bubble-head clowns who accept all sorts of made-up bullshit. I'm sure you take pride in getting praise from clowns on social media every time you claim that anything bad going on in the world is due to the USA. Just like other clowns get patted on the back when they write nonsense like climate change is a hoax. The real world is far more complicated than you can even grasp. The fact you repeatedly ignore the historical facts that Britain and France divided the Middle East into made-up countries, drawn along lines that forced dictatorships to arise, as being one of the major factors in the instability in today's Middle East is simply strong evidence that you don't give a rat's ass about truth at all. You only care about putting a demented spin on everything so it justifies your delusional beliefs regarding the USA. You are frankly no different than any other bigot who claims the Jews and Israel are responsible for all the evils of the world, or the Masons, or the Vatican, or Blacks, or Hispanics, or whomever some nutcase hates.
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