Do you understand that the entire thread is in answer to the OP?Lacewing wrote:[Do] you understand that conscious attention and intellectual self-enquiry are not assured by, nor dependent on, theism... therefore non-theists can also have these qualities?
Look at it from this angle.Lacewing wrote:[Do] you understand that conscious attention and intellectual self-enquiry are not assured by, nor dependent on, theism... therefore non-theists can also have these qualities?
Seeds and trees have no visual apparatus. They also do not think, as they have no neural network.Walker wrote:Look at it from this angle.Lacewing wrote:[Do] you understand that conscious attention and intellectual self-enquiry are not assured by, nor dependent on, theism... therefore non-theists can also have these qualities?
I know you understand this.
Because the seeds fall close, like-trees grow together and see only their own kind.
Each tree sees the tiny differences in the leaves of its own kind.
The same individual is blind to the sameness, because the sameness is so familiar.
The sameness grows from the same root.
There are only two roots.
The yes root.
The no root.
These roots are not the same.
The yes root sees the forest.
The no root takes comfort.
That observation is relevant only when the topic is trees, and odds are they don't type.Dalek Prime wrote: Seeds and trees have no visual apparatus. They also do not think, as they have no neural network.
Walker wrote:It’s them social engineers that cause the irony.Nick_A wrote: Have you ever wondered how much of your humanity is sacrificed to the apparatus? How many things are done not because they are the human thing to do but because they are the way of the apparatus? Suppose Simone Weil is right, how many can really become consciously human and not just remain conditioned disciples of the apparatus?
Tale wagging the dog.
The Tale is the stated ostensible intent.
For instance, the ostensible intent of the global warming movement is to save the planet. Lordy.
The tale is often disconnected from reality and human nature,
Apathy/lethargy!
and in the case of the global warming political movement,
disconnected from science.
You're a fucking idiot!
"Scientific discussion
See also: Scientific opinion on climate change and Surveys of scientists' views on climate change
Nearly all scientists agree that humans are contributing to observed climate change.[88][239] At least nine surveys of scientists and meta-studies of academic papers concerning global warming have been carried out since 2004. While up to 18% of scientists surveyed might disagree with the consensus view, when restricted to scientists publishing in the field of climate, 97 to 100% agreed with the consensus: most of the current warming is anthropogenic (caused by humans). National science academies have called on world leaders for policies to cut global emissions.[240] In the scientific literature, there is a strong consensus that global surface temperatures have increased in recent decades and that the trend is caused mainly by human-induced emissions of greenhouse gases. No scientific body of national or international standing disagrees with this view.[18][241]" --wikipedia--
And in fact, to all those except the "dumb asses,(walker)," it really doesn't matter what the PRIMARY cause of global warming is. It only matters that humans contribute to it. Here's an analogy for all those save the idiots (walker).
If your neighbors house, adjacent to all the others, (including yours), is on fire, and all you can do is either, watch it burn, pour fuel on it, or pour water on it, (it's a class A fire), only the lunatics pour fuel on it, while the ignorant stand and watch it burn, and the intelligent pour water on it.
You see, all you numb skulls, it doesn't matter what the primary causal of your certain destruction is, just that you do what ever you can to stop it, else just do us all a favor and place a loaded gun in your mouth, safety off and pull the trigger, because you're worthless and weak, having shit for brains, because killing yourself and your family, is what you're doing anyway, with your apathetic and lethargic ways, (walker)!
The tale is told to prove the goodness of the ostensible intent.
To you lethargic apathetic fucks sure! Remember I said, "dumb assed, inbred, country fuck," right?
And then reality walks in and takes a dump.
Only fools don't understand that human reality, in terms of cleaning up our mess, is what we make it, not necessarily set in the stone of our, up to now, foolishness.
ACLU LEADER QUITS AFTER DAUGHTERS ENCOUNTER MEN IN THE WOMEN’S RESTROOM
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2 ... stroom.php
Yes, it's a shame that fear appears to rule all, that it's growing in intensity. I do seriously believe it's due to us knowingly fucking ourselves over. I just hope is really sinks in fast, before it's too late.
So why did you anthropomorphize trees then.Walker wrote:That observation is relevant only when the topic is trees, and odds are they don't type.Dalek Prime wrote: Seeds and trees have no visual apparatus. They also do not think, as they have no neural network.
Well, I think trees are very nice. Don’t you? They have many fine qualities. Like people! Soft and cuddly and huggy ain’t on the similar list, though with the right cellouse and treatments a lovely patina can ensue and with proper mood lighting; one can project a subjective apprehended softness into a hardwood-paneled library, where the minds of old and yours soar beyond what you used to think just moments earlier, as you peer at the chicken-tracks through time.Dalek Prime wrote:So why did you anthropomorphize trees then.Walker wrote:That observation is relevant only when the topic is trees, and odds are they don't type.Dalek Prime wrote: Seeds and trees have no visual apparatus. They also do not think, as they have no neural network.