Socialism: What Has Gone Wrong?

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Re: Socialism: What Has Gone Wrong?

Post by Obvious Leo » Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:08 pm

bobevenson wrote:
Gary Childress wrote:In short I don't see how it's accurate to say that capitalism helps people look out for themselves more so than socialism.
Socialists want to take money out of your wallet to give to somebody else. That goes against capitalism and evolution itself!
You're a simplistic half-wit, Bob, and you don't know your arse from your elbow. It is capitalism which takes money out of the pockets of those who work for it and hands it to those who don't.

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Re: Socialism: What Has Gone Wrong?

Post by Gary Childress » Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:12 pm

bobevenson wrote:
Gary Childress wrote:In short I don't see how it's accurate to say that capitalism helps people look out for themselves more so than socialism.
Socialists want to take money out of your wallet to give to somebody else. That goes against capitalism and evolution itself!
::sigh:: Why would socialists want to take money out of my wallet (or yours for that matter) and give it to someone else. I don't own a factory, bank or any significant societal resources. Do you?

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Re: Socialism: What Has Gone Wrong?

Post by bobevenson » Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:21 pm

Jesus Christ, are you motherfuckers so dense that you can't see the light of day through the darkness of your night vision? Socialism is all about the government taking one person's money to give to somebody else. And it's morons like you that allow this criminal activity to continue!

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Re: Socialism: What Has Gone Wrong?

Post by Gary Childress » Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:29 pm

bobevenson wrote:Socialism is all about the government taking one person's money to give to somebody else.
No socialist worthy of the name is simply about taking everyone's money and giving it to someone else. Who's money are they taking and to whom are they giving it? Can you be a little more specific?
And its morons like you that allow this criminal activity to continue!
People like you allow injustices of capitalism to continue. I think I'd rather stand for democracy in the workplace than greed and exploitation.

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Re: Socialism: What Has Gone Wrong?

Post by bobevenson » Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:42 pm

You have no idea what economics is all about. You think it's wrong for a person to make a lot of money without pointing a gun at somebody's head, but that it's OK for the government to figuratively do it to relieve him of the contents of his wallet, like a common criminal who would immediately be arrested and thrown in the slammer!
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Re: Socialism: What Has Gone Wrong?

Post by Gary Childress » Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:55 pm

bobevenson wrote:You think there's something wrong with a person wanting to make a lot of money without pointing a gun at somebody's head, but that it's OK for the government to point a gun at somebody's head to relieve them of the contents of their wallet![/size][/b]
I don't think there's anything wrong with someone pursuing personal well being and making a decent living for themselves. I just don't think they should own or control extensive economic resources. I think larger scale economic entities (factories, banks, major transportation systems, news media etc) should be owned in common and administered democratically by those who have a stake in them. I don't think anyone should proverbially "hold a gun to someone's head and steal the contents of their wallet." That is probably a mischaracterization of the true tenets of socialism propagated by those who basically want to own society's economic centers.

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Re: Socialism: What Has Gone Wrong?

Post by bobevenson » Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:59 pm

I'm sorry, but you and other socialists are a throwback to evolution itself!
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Re: Socialism: What Has Gone Wrong?

Post by vegetariantaxidermy » Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:01 pm

Gary Childress wrote:
bobevenson wrote:You think there's something wrong with a person wanting to make a lot of money without pointing a gun at somebody's head, but that it's OK for the government to point a gun at somebody's head to relieve them of the contents of their wallet![/size][/b]
I don't think there's anything wrong with someone pursuing personal well being and making a decent living for themselves. I just don't think they should own or control extensive economic resources. I think larger scale economic entities (factories, banks, major transportation systems, news media etc) should be owned in common and administered democratically by those who have a stake in them. I don't think anyone should proverbially "hold a gun to someone's head and steal the contents of their wallet." That is probably a mischaracterization of the true tenets of socialism propagated by those who basically want to own society's economic centers.
Anyone with an iota of humanity and decency is a 'socialist' (although hardly anyone seems to know what it means. Perhaps it means nothing (what a surprise, another word rendered meaningless by idiots like Boob). Boob thinks it means 'communist', which was a Utopian ideal that ended up as nothing more than dictatorship. All 'socialism' has done is take some of the better ideas of communism and incorporate them into the kinder and more civilised societies we have today.

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Re: Socialism: What Has Gone Wrong?

Post by bobevenson » Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:04 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:Anyone with an iota of humanity and decency is a 'socialist.'
And anybody who takes that position is certifiably ignorant, stupid or insane!

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Re: Socialism: What Has Gone Wrong?

Post by Arising_uk » Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:05 pm

bobevenson wrote:I'm sorry, but you and other socialists are a throwback to evolution itself!
:lol: Can an absolute fool of a godbotherer talk about Evolution?

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Re: Socialism: What Has Gone Wrong?

Post by Arising_uk » Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:07 pm

bobevenson wrote:Socialists want to take money out of your wallet to give to somebody else. That goes against capitalism and evolution itself!
How do you make a living bob?

Can an absolute fool of a godbotherer talk about Evolution?

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Re: Socialism: What Has Gone Wrong?

Post by vegetariantaxidermy » Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:10 pm

bobevenson wrote:
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:Anyone with an iota of humanity and decency is a 'socialist.'
And anybody who takes that position is certifiably ignorant, stupid or insane!
I'm afraid you are the insane one boob, but being insane you are blissfully unaware of that fact. I've often wondered if the insane are aware of their own insanity. It appears not. Do you really think sane people go on about 'satan', or the 7 pillars of blah, blah, blah, the book of non-revelations, or search for mystical numerical meanings in words (you can find any number you want by simply shuffling around letters to suit yourself). Does any of that seem 'sane' to you, if you really think about it?

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Re: Socialism: What Has Gone Wrong?

Post by bobevenson » Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:15 pm

Arising_uk wrote:
bobevenson wrote:Socialists want to take money out of your wallet to give to somebody else. That goes against capitalism and evolution itself!
How do you make a living bob?
Can an absolute fool of a godbotherer talk about Evolution?
You forgot your little smilie, Kim (are you sure you're not a little girl?).

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Re: Socialism: What Has Gone Wrong?

Post by FlashDangerpants » Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:17 pm

Arising_uk wrote:
bobevenson wrote:Socialists want to take money out of your wallet to give to somebody else. That goes against capitalism and evolution itself!
How do you make a living bob?
He is a pensioner claiming social security.

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Re: Socialism: What Has Gone Wrong?

Post by Arising_uk » Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:18 pm

bobevenson wrote:You forgot your little smilie, Kim (are you sure you're not a girl?).
:lol: Happy now. Would me being a girl suit your misogyny?

So how about it bob, what do you do for a living and how can an absolute fool of a godbotherer talk about Evolution with a straight face?

Surely an arch capitalist can't be embarrassed by what they do to make a living?
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